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Public Education is evil because...

Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago to Education
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I'll start.

Public Education is evil because it assumes that parents are too stupid or too lazy to educate their children and, therefore, the State must compel them to do so.

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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, had to go to Lackland AFB to pick up some medicine for my daughter. See, I'm a good dad, though no one has said for what yet. Coloring hair, maybe? Ah, I know. Having breakfast ready for her before school.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I spoke to my daughter about having her and her husband send my 7 month-old grandson to this school when he is of age. They are now around an hour north of the springs, but I have 4-1/4 years to work on it. That is, if I cant collapse the PS system by then:-)

    Could you tell me how you replied to "this thread" ? I've noticed that we run of space when we post many times on a subject.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    even though all my favorite colorists were men, there is no way I would have let my dad touch my hair when I was a senior...or my mom.
    are you back from a product run?
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well, yea....
    there were no details so I racked it up to auto spellcheck. More likely you meant chloroformist or choral...director or
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 10 years, 8 months ago
    Sorry for the long delay in replying. Had to make a fast trip to San Antonio this AM. Left at 0615 and got back at 1230. As for my comment anent your possible silence in the face of my prior post, I did notice you were speechless to someone else's post (I think KH), so I wondered if my post above might have placed youi in the same situation, and the same for KH. That's all I meant.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She talks about that somewhere too... don't notice, don't question, don't judge (or something like that.) We are so backwards.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You seem to think that the present system can be saved by reform. I believe that "free education" must be abolished and replaced by home-schooling and privately-owned schools. This belief stems in large part from my hatred of Marx and Engels. This demand from their CM sums it up well for me. "Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c." This is what led to the ideas of John Dewey, NEA, and Common Core.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    what's insulting? this is a solid discussion. Disagreement makes the conversation more interesting.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    vouchers would be a good place to start. You would see more charter schools popping up then. My kids went to an excellently rated public high school. They did well. Problem is, it was exhausting trying to de-program them from all of the socialism. We post worksheets and lesson plans in here regularly with outrageous assertions and children want to perform well for their teachers. and THEN they go to college. Do you know if your district has adopted Common Core? it's fairly new, and may undermine the quality of performance your county enjoys in their schools soon.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some diseases need to be cut out immediately and totally. Socialism and it's little red schoolhouse is one such disease.
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  • Posted by Wonky 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you want to shut down all public schools today while there are few alternatives in place and just let things sort themselves out? Please don't move to my county. I'd prefer to see more viable alternatives in place before shutting down public schools. Until those alternatives are in place, I will suffer your insults and continue to happily pay the portion of my property taxes that goes to education regardless of whether the product is these "evil socialist minions" to which you refer. When those alternatives are in place, if the portion of my property taxes going to education remains high, I'll join you camp.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I call it the catholic thing. Be normal. don't be abnormal. don't question, follow. it works great for the the ones in charge.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish I had an easy answer for you LS. My parents used to prattle endlessly about not going out on a limb, about not being the nail that sticks up, etc. So this avoidance of making independent judgments has been around for quite a while, maybe going back to Adam and Eve and the tree of knowledge. Let's keep doing what we are doing and hope we are changing some minds.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was reading The Virtue of Selfishness last night and it was talking about black and white/ right and wrong and how so many people don't want to see things as black and white they want to find a gray area (which doesn't exist). It gets into the phrase, "don't judge lest ye be judged" (or however that goes) so they don't want to judge anything because they don't want to be judged. Why are they afraid of judged OR saying if they think something is right or wrong....and WHY??? (I think it's the 'why' that they avoid. They don't want to explain their opinion...and be judged for it.) In other words... I'm either surrounded by cowards, or by idiots. I find it very concerning and very telling of why this country is where it is.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    are you in Colorado? let's hope it's more of the canon city kind and not the Florence kind. ;)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes it was called brainwashing when I was a kid. The socialists in the USSR were the enemy then, now the NEA.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no middle ground when one side holds all the power. The necessity of education is no greater than the necessity of cars and shoes. Those two industries have thrived in a mostly free market. So would education
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