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Atlas Shrugged Trivia-Bring It!

Posted by khalling 8 years, 11 months ago to Entertainment
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From the Movies or from the book-stump us, or tweak our newbies by asking a question we have to answer-Oh, I want easter eggs from the movies! but also from Atlas Shrugged, the book. Let's compile a bunch of questions to tempt gulchers to delve-either re-watch Parts I-III or crack the spine of that beloved piece of life-changing novel. no rules-have fun. You don't have to answer any of the questions-just give points for the ones you think are good-later I will post again and ask for answers. Ready, set, Go!


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  • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 11 months ago
    Based on a conversation in the book AS, what motivates a government to pass contradictory laws?

    Bonus: Which characters were present for this conversation?
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago
      Thanks, XenokRoy, for picking out my favorite quote in the whole of AS.

      Floyd Ferris to Hank Rearden:

      "Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. "You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against . . . We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted, and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
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      • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 11 months ago
        Also one of my favorite parts of the book. As I was reading AS for the second, or maybe third time I was working on my taxes for my LLC which consists of a small farm and some rental properties. I had been struggling with tax code where I had one of three choices. 1) do not claim a deduction, 2) claim deduction A which violated rule X 3) claim deduction B which violated rule Y. I ended up finding another way to claim the deduction (which has since been closed up) that did not violate any tax code, but I could only do under the farm. At the time I was wondering, why in the hell do we have contradictory code in the same tax code, under the same section of tax code?

        I then a few days later reached that section of Atlas Shrugged. I would not have believed it, and kinda shrugged it off in previous readings. This time with the struggle I had faced with tax code a few days earlier it really hit me. It has been one of my favorite sections of the book ever since.
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        • Posted by Ibecame 8 years, 11 months ago
          I just went back and re-read that section. I know exactly how you feel.
          The looters have finally found a fool proof way to raid Retirement Plans and lucky me, my plan is the test case. I find myself being ordered to comply with a "Court Appointed Receiver" but it directly conflicts with Internal Revenue who is supposed to be overseeing retirement plans. My choice is between who do I fear the most.
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        • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago
          Though in real life I am more like Quentin Daniels, if I were to perform AS, I would definitely request the part of Floyd Ferris just so that I could get to say that line to Rearden. Yes, I have a twisted mind in some respects.
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  • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 11 months ago
    This is more of a psychological question, but why do you suppose the sexual intimacy between Dagny and Hank/Dagny and Francisco were so downplayed in ASIII? Rand wrote extensively about Dagny's fear that Galt might allow her to stay with Francisco for her last week in the Gulch. Rand made it perfectly clear that if he had, it would have destroyed everything that the Gulch had come to mean to Dagny. Galt chastised her for that fear. If there is a trivia question there, what were the words Galt used to chastise Dagny, and did she apologize?
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    • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 11 months ago
      "Nobody stays here by faking reality in any manner whatever." Or something close to that. She apologized. But she was testing Galt by leaving it up to him whether or not she would spend the week with Francisco.
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      • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 11 months ago
        And the significance of the test?
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        • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 11 months ago
          This is really pushing my recollection. But, she was testing him to see if he would engage in the sacrifice of his love, thereby condemning Dagny to giving a love she didn't feel to a man who would have to engage in the charade of accepting it, all because of Galt's erstwhile altruistic act. That would have condemned the three of them to living a lie.
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          • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 11 months ago
            Exactly. Had Galt sacrificed his love for her for Francisco's (or anyone else's sake), he would have violated the code of the Gulch.

            "I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

            It (for me), finally tied together all of the unconventional (and sometimes difficult to understand) sexual themes and inextricably connected them to the core philosophy.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago
      I think I read somewhere or Kira told me that it would be too confusing in such a short time-span of a movie
      Galt said something along the lines we didn't build a gulch to escape reality and you don't get to either.
      I don't remember about whether she apologizes. stumped me!
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  • Posted by $ hash 8 years, 11 months ago
    Who is Frank Adams?
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    • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 11 months ago
      OK, this one took me a while, but Frank Adams is that name that Francisco took when he went to work at Rearden Steel as a furnace foreman after he left the world. He organized the force of Rearden workers that fought back against the rent-a-mob that the government sent to stage a riot, which would have given the looters the pretext to nationalizing Rearden Steel.
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  • Posted by handyman 8 years, 11 months ago
    When Dagny goes to visit Francisco at the Wayne-Falkland Hotel to ask him about the "farce" he came to see, she finds him sitting on the floor playing with marbles. This seems like a strange pastime for a person as intense as Francisco. Why was he playing with marbles? This also seems like one that gets answered later in the book, but I couldn't find it.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    Name the city and State in AS where the Patrick Henry University stands--or at least, stood before the whole society collapsed.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago
      Cleveland, Ohio is where the Patrick Henry University was located, but I have no idea why AR chose that location. Does anyone know why she picked Cleveland, OH? I debated asking where the Patrick Henry University was located myself. Could the location of the Patrick Henry University have anything to do with John Rockefeller's Standard Oil?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    When Robert Stadler, PhD, endorsed the creation of a State Science Institute, John Galt quit his program of graduate study in physics he earlier had embarked upon under Stadler.

    1. Where did John Galt go, instead of remaining at the Patrick Henry University?

    2. Whom did Stadler accost out in the hallway after his abortive last meeting with John Galt?

    3. What did Stadler blurt out/otherwise say to this person?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    Which geographical location in real life did Ayn Rand herself say came the closest to being *the* valley?

    For normal credit, name the town and State.

    For extra credit: name the Native American name for the river and the valley, and the tribe that once owned it.

    As a bonus: Midas Mulligan tells Dagny he cut off all means of ground access, except a single road, which he carefully camouflaged. If you can tell which real-life formation was most likely to have been the location of Mulligan's Valley, name the road most likely to have been the road Midas left open.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    Mr. Mowen of the Amalgamated Switch and Signal Company refuses to work with Rearden Metal. We then see him talking to a young men chaining down a cargo bound for another State. Toward the end of the novel, he shares a TV stage with John Galt in the abortive announcement of "The John Galt Plan." The Master of Ceremonies gives his full name.

    1. What are his other two names?

    2. One of those two names turns out to be misspelled. Which name is misspelled, and how?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    "It is said that catastrophes are a matter of pure chance. And there were those who would have said the passengers of the Comet were not guilty or responsible for the thing that happened to them."

    List in order the representative passengers, one in each railcar, that the novel then describes. Give their exact reservation, as "Bedroom X", "Roomette Y", "Seat Z," or whatever.

    Bonus question: name the recent reviewer of Atlas Shrugged who, by his own admission, declined to re-read the rest of the novel after re-reading that scene. Also name the earlier reviewer and what infamous line the more-recent reviewer said that scene reminded him of.
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    • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 11 months ago
      I actually listened to that whole scene a few days ago on my audiobook version. I often wondered why she included so much more detail than she needed. They were all looters of one form or another, and perhaps they should have considered the idea that death/disaster was the natural consequence of their morality, but she spent so much time in what "appeared" to be an effort to desensitize the reader to the deaths.

      I never skip any part of the book when re-reading-- even the most heartbreaking parts. I suppose I consider it akin to "faking reality".

      I can imagine the reviewer being irate about Rand's implication that they did not deserve to live. After all, that was her implication.

      Would you mind PM'ing the review you are referring to?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    Midas Mulligan has several enterprises in Galt's Gulch. But exactly one of these is called a Company.

    1. Which enterprise was that?

    2.. Why did he call it a company?

    3. Did anyone in addition to him own a piece of that enterprise? And if so, who?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    List the articles of jewelry Dagny Taggart took with her when she finally fled the world and joined the rescue operation. Include where she acquired each.

    As a bonus: list whatever other valuable document(s) and/or wall hanging(s) Dagny took with her, and where she got them from.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    1. The Taggart Tunnel disaster involves a collision between what two trains inside the Tunnel?

    2. In the novel, a breathless radio announcer gives a cause for the Comet abruptly stopping so it could not start again.

    2A: What was that cause?

    2B: The novel does not identify the passenger involved. But the movie does. Who, in the movie version, stopped the Comet?

    3. Novel and movie have the collision occurring in two different ways. What kind of collision took place in the novel version and in the movie version?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    James Taggart blew the gaffe twice, first with Dagny Taggart and then with Hank Rearden, by saying the exact same thing he expected from each. In two words, tell us that thing--and which, between Dagny and Hank, had the better grasp of the full import of James Taggart's gaffe.
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    • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 11 months ago
      Temlakos, you must know this book by heart!
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      • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
        I keep it by my bed to read nights.

        I've often asked myself: what if a few of the genders were reversed, and I found myself portraying Dagny Taggart--as a man? Would I leave the valley? Or would I see this deal the way Hank Rearden saw it at that meeting at the Wayne-Falkland?

        At other times--oh, how I wish I had a multi-million-dollar purse, and I'd been the one to produce the AS movies--or bring it to TV as a "limited series." I would have wanted to portray Henry Rearden myself--and would have cast Matilda Swinton as Dagny. And Angela Lansbury as Mother Rearden. That's just for starters...!
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago
    Name the first engineer to run an engine on The John Galt Line, and name the engineer who took the coal burning engine into the Taggart Tunnel.
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    • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
      Engineer Pat Logan drove the inaugural train on the John Galt Line. Now here's another question right back at you: Pat Logan shows up twice in the narrative. Running that first train on the John Galt LIne was the first time. Where and when did he show up next, even if by rating only a mention?

      Engineer Joe Scott took the Comet into the Tunnel with a coal-burning steam locomotive to pull her. Questions right back at you:

      1. Identify that engine by number.

      2. Name the fireman who accompanied Engineer Scott on that run, and who ended up being the sole survivor.
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