Can BIG TECH be Stopped?

Posted by Solver 6 years ago to Philosophy
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This was interesting…

Dave Rubin of the Rubin Report is joined by Objectivists: Yaron Brook, Onkar Ghate, and Greg Salmieri LIVE from OCON to talk about big tech censorship, free speech, YouTube demonetization, the adpocalypse, fake news, and more.

Edit: The video was shown live, then shortly afterwards, from Twitter,
Dave Rubin
6/24/2019 6:27PM
Know there were some audio issues and a late start with the livestream tonight. We just took down the stream and will republish totally clean and clear tomorrow. Really enjoyed the discussion and think you will too.

NOW IT’S BACK UP!
https://youtu.be/4xQxjosx-dk


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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years ago
    I am allowed only limited time on these library computers, and did not have time to watch the whole video, but I agreed with what Yaron Brook said.
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    And because of his “they owe us” premise, he comes to his “break them up” solution.
    But I was talking about the actual evidence he presented.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's as painful to listen to as CNN. Guessing that the First Amendment compels YouTube to show it.
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe because YouTube is owned by Google and Google a few years ago collectively headed toward a political ideological warfare using their own “fairness” AI to make sure the next “Trump situation” does not happen.
    Although I don’t like the solution, this is a great summary video on this,
    https://youtu.be/bku8qhmPFM4
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That strikes me dino as plausible.
    Wonder why I was so ready to think YouTube did a PC Google? Hmm. Hmm.
    Ah, the word, "conditioning," comes to mind. As in being conditioned to expect something.
    Me dino has read of YouTube being accused of putting the quash on conservative videos.
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    When watching it live the sound was almost nonexistent at the beginning and then went to normal about 30 minutes later. Maybe that was it.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Been watching Fox News and doing stuff. No it's getting late and that's long. Wonder what the problem with it was. For not being quite perfect in every way, me dino was pretty well convinced it was not coming back.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Self censorship? That's impossible unless you're letting someone else stifle you from expressing your opinion by telling you to shut up and sit down.
    Let's see, it's now been 7 hours 13 minutes since YouTube censored--or else pulled?--that video Solver put up.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you trying to dictate to private individuals and groups that writing and speaking or running a group by choosing not to offend others is somehow self censorship. One should find out what the context of the recipient of your material is. That makes a better world. You have no obligation to change any civil person by trying to force your ideas or tech on them. If it bothers you what YouTube does, then do that "self censorship" thing and miss out on all the so called good stuff.
    "Self censorship" is similar to what some countries call suicide, "self murder". That denigrates the concept of "murder". Same denigration of the concept of "censorship".
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  • Posted by tdechaine 6 years ago
    The question is: should Google be stopped, not "can they". We should not ask Govt. to interfere. A free market can resolve such issues.
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    According to Dave Ruben‘s latest video, “Google Exposed,” THEY took the video down for some reason and will re-load it “soon.“
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    According to Dave Ruben‘s latest video, “Google Exposed,” THEY took the video down for some reason and will re-load it “soon.“
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago
    The government can’t protect us from private company cobsirship, but WE THE CUSTOMERS CAN
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  • Posted by 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    And what happens if in the future Apple disables your Apple ID because they didn’t like something you said over 10 years ago?

    And what happens to your life because of (data, passwords, photos, contacts, mail, messages, files, backups) that you voluntarily stored on their service?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 6 years ago
    Of course the video is missing. YouTube is enemy territory! Of course they're going to take that down.

    BitChute!

    https://bitchute.com/

    There's our platform of choice.

    BlockChain rocks. They can't knock that down.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    There will be no censorship by force. The tech companies will use persuasion: i.e., if you want to use our computer technology, you will behave in ways that suit us. Or you can run your company off the grid (and good luck with that).
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years ago
    YouTube has removed (censored) the video on tech censorship, as proof that there is no censorship. For those who think this is big tech's prerogative, I'll repeat what Tucker Carlson asked last night: What will you do when AT&T shuts off your phone service because they don't like what you say on it? And what will you say when the power company shuts off your power because they don't like the way and extent to which you use it?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago
    Eh, it appears YouTube pulled the plug on that video, Solver.
    Now why o why would that BIG TECH bunch wanna go and do that?
    Hey, I know a word. CENSORSHIP! Censorship on a corporate level.
    Take that, corporate level censorship deniers.
    Now sock it to me! Sock it to me!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6HIz...
    Too bad it's YouTube who has all this other great stuff.
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