Can BIG TECH be Stopped?

Posted by  $  Solver 1 month, 3 weeks ago to Philosophy
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This was interesting…

Dave Rubin of the Rubin Report is joined by Objectivists: Yaron Brook, Onkar Ghate, and Greg Salmieri LIVE from OCON to talk about big tech censorship, free speech, YouTube demonetization, the adpocalypse, fake news, and more.

Edit: The video was shown live, then shortly afterwards, from Twitter,
Dave Rubin
6/24/2019 6:27PM
Know there were some audio issues and a late start with the livestream tonight. We just took down the stream and will republish totally clean and clear tomorrow. Really enjoyed the discussion and think you will too.

NOW IT’S BACK UP!
https://youtu.be/4xQxjosx-dk


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  • Posted by bsmith51 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    YouTube has removed (censored) the video on tech censorship, as proof that there is no censorship. For those who think this is big tech's prerogative, I'll repeat what Tucker Carlson asked last night: What will you do when AT&T shuts off your phone service because they don't like what you say on it? And what will you say when the power company shuts off your power because they don't like the way and extent to which you use it?
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    • Posted by  $  1 month, 3 weeks ago
      And what happens if in the future Apple disables your Apple ID because they didn’t like something you said over 10 years ago?

      And what happens to your life because of (data, passwords, photos, contacts, mail, messages, files, backups) that you voluntarily stored on their service?
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  • Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Eh, it appears YouTube pulled the plug on that video, Solver.
    Now why o why would that BIG TECH bunch wanna go and do that?
    Hey, I know a word. CENSORSHIP! Censorship on a corporate level.
    Take that, corporate level censorship deniers.
    Now sock it to me! Sock it to me!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6HIz...
    Too bad it's YouTube who has all this other great stuff.
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    • Posted by lrshultis 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      Are you trying to dictate to private individuals and groups that writing and speaking or running a group by choosing not to offend others is somehow self censorship. One should find out what the context of the recipient of your material is. That makes a better world. You have no obligation to change any civil person by trying to force your ideas or tech on them. If it bothers you what YouTube does, then do that "self censorship" thing and miss out on all the so called good stuff.
      "Self censorship" is similar to what some countries call suicide, "self murder". That denigrates the concept of "murder". Same denigration of the concept of "censorship".
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      • Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        Self censorship? That's impossible unless you're letting someone else stifle you from expressing your opinion by telling you to shut up and sit down.
        Let's see, it's now been 7 hours 13 minutes since YouTube censored--or else pulled?--that video Solver put up.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Big Tech is like California.

    Decades ago, it was that California is a bellwether State and trends developed here would be accepted by the greater United States, on a 2 decade lag.

    It was true for a while but California shifted so much to the left that the country will never join up.

    It is one thing to be technologically advanced and quite another to pile political correctness on top of it.

    And there is the problem with Big Tech. They usurped their reputation and leading status in tech to add political goals.

    It is too late to remedy that now. It is like the deep state, remedy comes from complete replacement involving the deletion of the present state.

    It'll be a huge effort and I don't see anyone being able to take it on.
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  • Posted by PeterSmith 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Hopefully they will set him straight around the concept of censorship, explain that only the government can censor and that far from stopping, we should all be supporting the rights of tech companies against the Marxist assault from conservatives.
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  • Posted by  $  mminnick 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    There is a way to curtail the power of Big Tech. Note: I do not normally suggest of promote what I am about to suggest as a solution but Big Tech is out of control.
    Consider the case of communications companies. They are regulated as to speech content (Radio/Television) customer relations (telephone companies) Rates (telephone and utilities) . If Big Tech (Google, Twitter, Instagram, etc) is classified as a public utility and the processes in place for the control and monitoring of such were place on Big Tech the hidden “censorship” of ideas and news would be minimized (but not eliminated). Rules for access and use would be codified and monitored. Rules for content would be also.
    All policies procedures and internal guidance would be available or public review and comment.There would be established methods of protesting/challenging these itmes and obtaining a hearing on them.
    This is some restraint on free trade of ideas but history has shown Big Tech does not support the free exchange of ideas and though but only of what “they” approve of. There are many things that would have to be worked out but this approach could work to open the flow of thoughts and ideas without the throttling by Big Tech.
    Just my off the cuff thoughts. I know there are a lot of holes and problems in this idea but it is an approach that might work.
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