Repeatable World disaster Cycle found. [do not judge till you listen] Parts 1-9

Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 7 months, 3 weeks ago to Science
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Was CIA classified, They took it seriously, should we at least consider the possibilities?

This first video is 25 Minutes long. part II and III are less than 7 minutes.

CAUTION: this will take some time to vet out, nevermind understand, it is jarring.

This is quite the revelation, unbelievable yet undeniable. NASA and others have recently noticed that some stars go nova on a cyclical time frame and do not die out. Ben at suspicious observers has reported this in his daily news casts.

NOTE!...This is what the CIA and Scientist think on the subject. Ben Davidson and other investigators are working hard to best understand this new information and vet it as best we can.
It is so credible that Ben is scheduling a guest speaker, most familiar with the subject, for the next Observing the Frontier conference.
http://suspicious0bservers.org.

Part II Earth Catastrophe Cycle | Stories to Tell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cje2...

Part III Earth Catastrophe Cycle | $21 Trillion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy99G...

Part IV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUJ7...

Part V https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vKwu...

Part VI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpvQc...

Part VII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXU0c...

Part VIII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm_ps...

Part IX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJ4z...
SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjJqIXYT1w&feature=youtu.be


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  • Posted by  $  nickursis 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    Now THAT is a disturbing set of videos. Considering what Hancock says in his books, he suggested the survival of a previous civilization that sent out "emissaries" to impart wisdom and education, to help teach man to survive, may mean we repeat this cycle over and over. What if that WAS true, and such a civilization existed, but was mostly destroyed? They may have had the technology to do all the things that are not explained with building megalith monuments. So, take the missing 10 trillion and build a underground survival centers, cover that up with misdirection and UFO/alien stories (Dolce, New Mexico, anyone?) and try to kick start civilization at a higher level, to maybe survive the next event intact? The chilling thing is the last line of part 4 "we may only have 3 decades before the next one". Maybe the whole cabal story is a group who took over the program, with their own dark intent? Now we see the revolution to retake the program and restore it to the people and not the elite? All very interesting, and does seem to bring a lot of the many, many varied threads together that exist with the various myths, legends, testaments by ancients, that everyone blew off individually, but have a really disturbing similarity across the world, and in sync with time. Just the effects of minor solar burps (like the last 2 days) should give anyone a pause, yet you see NO reporting of this at all, just "well it happens a lot, no big deal" for excuses.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 7 months, 2 weeks ago
      Unless the "safe" area is greatly enlarged, only the elite will be able to survive any event that occurs in the next 50 years. If that is the case, an elite based upon knowledge and ability would be the only rational answer for survival. I wouldn't expect any bureaucrat or other looter to agree,
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      • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
        True, You need people with real life skills, integrated knowledge and a work ethic...that leaves out the [D]elite ruleless class but instead includes the elite on the street and to hell with the Great Unwashed.

        I was looking at maps of the US by elevation...there is a very large plateau in Colorado that could support a Lot of people at 11K feet elevation...New Gulch?...anyone....Provided,..that area is not on the sun facing side during the event.

        I can't help feeling that we haven't considered all the cycles that are or will be happening at that time...do we know how that effects the outcome?
        I don't know...maybe I am just to damn integrated and want more defined realities of the situation.
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    • Posted by  $  7 months, 3 weeks ago
      We could of done so much to prepare, to assemble all known knowledge, past and present, all technology...had we known this since the late 50's. [might we know now what the Dolmens were for?]

      Here is a interesting personal factoid: 1957/1958 our house mysteriously burnt down, my little sister was born with heart defects and a host of other strange things...I remember the colors in the sky. I had forgotten them until it was mentioned.

      I laid out some questions in yesterdays suspicious observers fly on the wall session.

      1) will the grand solar minimum, said to be at it's height 2030-35, mitigate the overall effects of a micro nova. (I didn't like the answer pending) however, it might be a cycle that doesn't happen at the same time. (still think that the Mayan's were alluding to something like that)
      2) do these micro nova's always happen during magnetic reversals. If so, how much worse could it get...we don't know the answer to that.
      3) and, can we predict which side of the earth will face the sun on D day.
      These are the questions we must answer, pending the outcome of our vetting this out.

      Interesting thought did arise though. Has to do with Jupiter, some ancient revelations as to the sun's connection to a much closer Jupiter but a Jupiter that is much further out now...we rhetorically ask...might that cancel out the cycle?

      We will be discussing this a lot more. Ben has added more speakers, in this regard, to the Observing the frontier conference in a few months.
      Wishing I could go to New Mexico for the conference...don't know how I could possible swing that.
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      • Posted by Lucky 7 months, 3 weeks ago
        Drat, just as I was recalling that 1957 and 58 were quite good years for me, I read now that the CIA and Scientist and OldUgly say those years were bad. I confess! My memory is failing. (See 1984, How many fingers?)

        Assembling, all known knowledge, past and present, all technology
        Tried Wikipedia -that turned out to be manipulated by collectivists and alarmists.

        ancient revelations. Don't knock it. Those guys (pardon sexism) got better predictions than the inter planetary carbon conflagration who predict disasters, famines, floods and droughts from carbon. I'll bet more on the Mayans.

        I do have one criticism, this thread is just too impotant to be classified under Science.
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        • Posted by  $  7 months, 3 weeks ago
          In my opinion, the greatest failure of lamestream science is the rejection of the great cycles. In that regard, the ancients knew more than we do now...we have only begun to scratch the surface and non-transparency doesn't help.
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          • Posted by Lucky 7 months, 3 weeks ago
            .. and sometimes I agree with OldUgly, well partly-
            TheScience, as they call it, seizes on carbon as the cause of, well all that is bad (outside of capitalism/racism), and ignores solar cycles.
            Periodic changes, yes cycles, in solar radiation have been used in temperature models with some fair correlation with actual data. The alarmist models using only CO2 all have bad correlation.

            That reminds me- a piece of ancient wisdom I like:

            When we talk of the future, the gods laugh
            Old Chinese proverb.
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            • Posted by freedomforall 7 months, 2 weeks ago
              Well, if the micro event actually happened, it could be the only period that energy from solar panels could produce enough output for current needs ;^)
              That could be the only kernel of truth in the GW tale.
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              • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
                Well, the sun facing side gets wiped out and the other side suffers from darkness for a period of time and I would imagine a lot of cloud cover for an extended period of time...if that is correct...so much for the solar panels.
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                • Posted by  $  Dobrien 7 months, 2 weeks ago
                  The side that is hit with ejecta has its atmosphere blown away. as the opposite sides atmosphere rushes to fill it in EveryThing is flash frozen.
                  Boyle’s law. Rapidly expanding gas freezes.
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        • Posted by lrshultis 7 months, 2 weeks ago
          Perhaps is too unscientific to be classed under science.
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          • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
            The cycles can, have and are understood scientifically. Like anything you start of with history, data, statistical correlation and then figure out the particulars with more data, observations, lab and model testing...although it is rare that "modeling" is accurate and should always account for new information.

            Problem is that the assumptions made in the past are wrong, that's ok because we learned something but now it's time to rethink and discard the old models.
            For instance, many still assume the sun has no surface...well it turns out it does and seems to be made of metalized hydrogen. A solid surface is necessary in the process of ejecting particles, without it, the sun could not "Throw" anything at us.
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            • Posted by lrshultis 7 months, 1 week ago
              Reference for your last paragraph? Metalized hydrogen just indicates, if it does exist, that it has metallic properties and need not be a solid, e.g. mercury. A solid surface is not necessary for ejecting particles, e.g., radioactive isotopes even gaseous ones. As for the Sun, ejection of material as in CMEs are due to magnetic fields.
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              • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                Here, listen to Dr. Robitaille
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQ1z...
                You are correct Liquid Metallic Hydrogen III.

                Here is about the surface. ( didn't mean to say solid) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faywr...
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                • Posted by lrshultis 7 months, 1 week ago
                  First video is way off. The Sun's rotation speed is 24 days and the core's rotation rate is about 24/4= 6 days. The core's rotation rate is about 1.9 microhertz and not 430 nanohertz.
                  The journal, "Progress in Physics", does not necessarily publish good papers. They are very open to papers that contradict known physics as from this about the journal. I have been at science for good 60 years of my life and have read many papers contrary to the then contemporary science knowledge and am appalled about the amount of clap-trap speculation since the YouTube videos which are in no way about objective reality. They, in many cases, are just subjective opinions about one's mental beliefs. About the Journal's paranoia about modern scientific knowledge :

                  "Owing to furtive jealousy and vested interest, modern science abhors open discussion and wilfully banishes those scientists who question the orthodox views. Very often, scientists of outstanding ability, who point out deficiencies in current theory or interpretation of data, are labelled as crackpots, so that their views can be conveniently ignored."
                  Perhaps crackpots and cranks should be labelled as such.

                  In the second video, he does not seem to understand what a surface is. Liquids have poorly defined surfaces without being stable. The fluid surface of the oceans need not be stable to produce rotating pressure areas, just as the Sun does not need a stable surface to produce many different phenomenon. The Sun has many surface features such as sunspots that are produced electromagnetically in a gas, mainly a plasma, confined by gravitation.

                  I do not understand why a man who is proficient in radiology ends up trying to debunk physics.
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                  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 7 months, 1 week ago
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                    • Posted by lrshultis 7 months ago
                      Conspiracy theory with some numerology.
                      Odd that he has no easily found credentials, only a lot of books that he sells.
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                      • Posted by  $  7 months ago
                        The cycle is undeniable. I am with you on the timeline numerology though....we are still vetting this out.
                        The finding of many areas on earth, the moon and mars that have these glass beads with no air bubbles is telling.
                        Also, everything I have studied shows me a timeline of 12K years for the last major disaster and it make sense in view of the procession of the equinox.
                        see: info graphics I posted in the commentary section.

                        NASA scientist have found that normal stars like ours, in fact almost all stars, put out micro novas [a new designation].
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                        • Posted by lrshultis 7 months ago
                          Have any of those tektites been shown to be dated other than the dates of the known strewn fields from meteorite impacts? If not, then they are formed as the result of solidifying in space and falling back to Earth and not due to any kind of solar nova.
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                          • Posted by  $  7 months ago
                            No, the one's they found dated 12/15K years ago and older,..and that was dated via depth of the earth they were found. Also very large depressions like the city sized one the satellites found under Greenland's glazier...core samples taken.

                            Remember, when the sun goes micro nova, amongst it's ejecta are large chunks of metal. Reminisce of these metal objects have been analyzed as well.
                            Meteorites would not have tektites with no air bubbles, nor in the craters made by them.

                            Also, We are still in the vetting process. Ben will have other qualified quests speaking about this at the Observing the Frontier conference in NM. this Feb.
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                  • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                    Data is constantly changing as our understand grows more accurate. Our view of all things is evolving as it should.
                    keep up to date by watching http://suspicious0bservers.org and you will see. Also see, the thunderbolts project (electric universe, that will change soon to a plasma universe)
                    Look up sky scholar on youtube as well.

                    This post however is still in the vetting stage. No question though as to our sun producing micro nova events...the rest is being vetted. We have to account for many things and many cycles.

                    PS...just posted video #7
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                    • Posted by DaveB007 7 months, 1 week ago
                      Olduglycarl, do you think by adding anything to our atmosphere to lessen the impact that a micro nova event could cause, or would that not really do anything to stop or lessen the impact. What do you think that those in government that knows about this has done to protect at least a few (when in comparison to total world population)...
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                      • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                        You can do Nothing, to our atmosphere to lessen the impact of a micro nova. Even if we could strengthen our magnetic shields and our ionosphere, it would still not do anything. I might argue the opposite, trying to do something to our atmosphere would only make a host of matters worse.
                        Problem: Only a force field could protect the planet from the Large metallic eject that accompanies the hot electrically charged plasma.

                        To make you feel better, we have yet to account for everything else that is going on nor those things that will be going on in 2046.

                        Example: I think the Grand Solar Minimum and it's "Sun facing quiet" that keeps the sunspots for flaring when facing earth may, at best, mitigate the worst of the effects of a micro nova event.
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                        • Posted by DaveB007 7 months, 1 week ago
                          Thanks for responding to my questions. I've been reading posts on these forums for the past 5 or so years and I don't post much. I've always enjoyed your posts and comments and typically you are spot on. This particular topic caught my interest, I'll be in my mid 70's around the time this could occur. Sipping tea on the front porch looking at the show till the blast takes us/me out.
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                          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 7 months, 1 week ago
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                            • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                              I re-listened and caught some more stuff. Looks like, due to frequency matches between earth and sun, the magnetic reversal and the nova events ARE connected.
                              My thoughts...is there a way to speed up or slow down the reversal so that both events Won't happen at the same time? Sounds far fetched but another thought, and it goes back to my observation that if we can make a hologram with solidity, then we can create a force field.
                              Could we make this force field to: 1 protect the earth from the solid ejecta, and 2 might we be able to slow down the solar rays, gamma rays etc, to slow down the evolutionary or de-evolutionary effects of life on the planet.
                              Might we be able to slow down and possibly avoid a full on ice age at the same time.

                              There is something he mentioned about aluminum...is it connected to the government putting aluminum in our atmosphere?
                              Have to re-listen again...
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                              • Posted by DaveB007 7 months, 1 week ago
                                That's exactly why I asked about things being added to our atmosphere...it has to be for a greater purpose :).
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                                • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                                  If we go by history...they are probably wrong and will make things worse.
                                  We really have no idea...because they are not sharing what they know and exactly what they Think they are doing.

                                  Putting stuff in the atmosphere still doesn't protect us from the solid ejecta which creates real problems.

                                  Change will occur regardless and it should IMO, but the idea is to make it less painful with a better chance of survival...keeping only those things that are of value instead of a total reboot.
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                                  • DaveB007 replied 7 months, 1 week ago
                          • Posted by  $  7 months, 1 week ago
                            I, with any luck, will be hand splitting wood because it's freezing cold. at the age of 93.

                            And seriously, this is a serious matter, BUT, we still don't have all the answers, all the facts, not to mention, most of which we may not have answers to.
                            All we can do is prepare for the worst...which is why, besides the lie, We are really upset because the climate narrative has everyone looking in the opposite directions.

                            PS...linls to videos 6 and 7 have been posted, Ben figures on 3 more in the future.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 months, 2 weeks ago
        Why would "D-day" only be a very short period? (Or is your reference to "D-day" only referring to the absolute peak of the event of unknown duration?)
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        • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
          The actual event happens in one day, (provided we understand it correctly and have the science right)...The consequences though, last a long time.

          In looking at this some more, it seems, perhaps, that the wind and wave actions alluded to would be at it's worse along the equator...so anywhere well inland, away from flooding areas might be safe as well.
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          • Posted by  $  nickursis 7 months, 2 weeks ago
            And, does the polar magnets move and flip at the same time, that was unclear, because they are wandering around more...
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            • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
              I have been trying to figure that out, it might this time or we might get hit with a double wammy; first one then the other.
              I think we've had more reversals than we have had novas.
              2046 might be a whole different story...

              PS adding another video from Ben.
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              • Posted by lrshultis 7 months, 2 weeks ago
                Any evidence that the Sun has ever gone nova? As far as I know the Sun has never had a companion star. If I recall right, all are binary systems with two red dwarfs or a white dwarf and another star.
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                • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
                  Yes, there is evidence, one of which are the tiny glass beads with no air bubbles in them. They could of only been made that way in outer space. They are found around many craters on earth, the mood and mars. There is other date given in the videos.

                  There is a lot of material in these videos and a lot of it is new to us. I myself find that I want to relisten to them all over again to get the finer points that I may have missed.
                  Some speculate that we did have a companion star at one point by no one knows for sure.

                  The new info graphic I posted comes from Nasa observations of other stars like ours, they do repeatably have micro nova events. The data in the graphic puts it in perspective.

                  Don't know about you but this stuff fascinates me.
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                  • Posted by lrshultis 7 months, 1 week ago
                    Unless the tektites date for other than the dates of the strewn fields, they are all from asteroid impacts. I have never seen data that that is not the case. So those little beads are not necessarily made in space. There are about 16 million G dwarf stars with masses near that of the Sun out of the about 400 billion stars in the Milky Way, so there should be a large number of micro nova when ever the Milky Way is observed. Is that what is being observed?
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            • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
              Good question, Nick...one inwhich I asked sat on Fly on the Wall...haven't got a definitive answer.

              I don't think these events always happen at the same time...hell, we don't know, for sure, if it will this time either.
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              • Posted by  $  nickursis 7 months, 2 weeks ago
                I posted this in the other thread as well, there are some interesting things in this, they seem to support the idea of a mass extinction event, but not as nuclear as the mini nova currently supposes. There seems tobe some inconsistencies to resolve, although the basic premise of a large extinction event is very solid, given the evidence, and the mini nova idea does explain the instant freezing and how herds of possibly millions of woolly mammoths all fell over dead at once:

                https://youtu.be/5jVZKw521HU

                Could the mini Nova cycle be the 62 million year mass extinction event, and the event 12000 years ago be a polar flip? Even then, an impactor would also cause something drastic, but does it explain the instant freezing of the carcasses?
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  • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
    NOTICE: just posted an info graphic time line of past disaster events along the precession of the equinox.
    It's a little hard to read. If anyone can improve it, please do and let me know, I'll send you my email so I can post it.
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  • Posted by  $  MikeMarotta 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    At the 7:35 mark: "Professor Charles Hapgood promulgated the Earth's Crust Displacement Theory in 1958. That work was supported by Einstein for which he wrote a foreword." Einstein died in 1955.
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    • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
      I think the forward was written early on and before it was published in 58 but I will put that one on my list of things to check out...thanks Mike.
      By the way, I am not fully on board with the theory and tend to view it electrically and the events he is referring to could easily be due to the nova events we are now discussing.

      However, the displacement theory isn't connected to the sun going micro nova...did you see the new info graphic I posted?

      The biggest problems I have been working on with Ben at SO and others is: are the magnetic reversals and the micro nova events connected or as one would expect, normally happen at different times. Will they occur at the same time this time or will it be a 1,2 punch...or, as it is suspected to happen before in history, will the poles just go back to where they belong without reversing.
      The other mitigating factor not accounted for is the Grand Solar Minimum and what we call the earth facing quietness where sunspots do not flair until the reach the limb away from earth.

      PS...just posted part 6
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