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    Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 7 months ago
    The original feminist movement had justifiable goals: the right to vote; equal standing in the courts; freedom from gender bias in competing for a job. Having secured the legal basis to support achieving those original goals, the current face of feminism has gone off track in counterproductive ways.

    In struggling with the traditional culture of male dominance in affairs of sex, feminists have made women more of a sexual object, focusing on promiscuity and cheating as signs women now had the same right to behave as shamelessly as any male. This reflects a very skewed perception of "all men" as immoral and untrustworthy. The latest crazy twist of promoting pride in having abortions reeks of insanity.

    BLM is focused on the wrong thing. More than 90% of all black victims of homicide are killed by a black perpetrator, and more whites than blacks are killed by police. The inner city culture needs a change in its moral code, and ignoring that does the minority community a disservice.

    The U.S. is the only developed country that does not have a national requirement for voter ID. Any group that demands exception is supporting voter fraud, period.

    Any group that focuses on exceptional racial demands, such as segregation is in the wrong. Any group that demands they have the right of an American citizen without seeking citizenship is in the wrong. Any group that demands reparations for wrongs not committed by those who would pay is wrong.

    That about sums it up.
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      Posted by term2 6 years, 7 months ago
      No one has a right to be afforded "fair competition" when seeking a job. You put out your abilities and drive, and employers either see the benefit to them, or they dont. In my experience, women get the jobs they are best qualified for, and get paid what they are worth to the employer. Government shouldnt get in the middle of this.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 7 months ago
      I agree that BLM has focused on the wrong problem and should change their behaviors to be more conducive to their supposed goal.
      Females worked together to gain the right to vote, equal standing in the courts, and freedom of gender bias. However, what they are going after now is just flawed logic. These women do not need to work as a collective brute force censoring society demanding reparations for what men "did" to them. They have and always will be equal to everyone else, yet they continue to fight for things that have no rational reason. The wage gap, Male Privilege, all these things are social constructs that do not matter, look at Ayn Rand a Russian Immigrant that is female and look where it got her! She was a powerful political and philosophical figure. Women have had the power, they simply did not choose to take it. She is one of many women who have defied the mental constructs or used them for their advantage.
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        Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 7 months ago
        One thing I like to point out to both feminists and race-baiters is that the first female millionaire was a black woman in the early 20th century. She didn't inherit or marry into her fortune, but started with an idea and worked hard from the bottom up to become a very successful business person.
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        • Posted by Jujucat 6 years, 7 months ago
          Who was this anomaly?
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 7 months ago
            Information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam_C... . Actually, I don't consider her that big of an anomaly, since I've known a number of energized minorities of both genders that have achieved a degree of success. The reason you don't often hear of them is because it doesn't fit the progressive agenda of minorities as victims.
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            • Posted by Jujucat 6 years, 7 months ago
              I used anomaly because, by definition: "something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected." I wish that it wasn't proper usage, but I'll bet if you were to ask Madam C. J. Walker, she would agree with me. ;) Thank you for the link. I totally agree with you about successful (non-victim) minorities not fitting into the progressive (read: Marxist) agenda.
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  • Posted by Jackson 6 years, 7 months ago
    The issue I have is that groups of late have a way of doing two things that rub me the wrong way. 1) they dwell on the past. Equality has come a long way but if I become vociferous about my views or my life, if it contradicts whatever they're protesting today, then I'm a male chauvinist or a racist or, God forbid, a Capitalist without hearing me out. Essentially they've made up their minds because whatever happened in the past they apply to the present and generalize it. Which brings me to 2) Their mindset is always "if you are not with us, you are against us." And if they view you as against them then you, sir, are the antichrist. There are no civilized debates regarding the groups the op is referring to. If you show any opposition, or even a "yeah, but..." then you pretty much put your life in danger. I am so against bullying you have no idea. These protests, these groups, are just that. Strong arm to get what they want and never listen to criticism because, you know, maybe perhaps people living on this little drop of matter called Earth do have different beliefs. Listen, I'm not saying there is no bad in the world. But protests and anti-whatever groups, to me at least, are not making humankind better but a catalyst of exclusion, oppression and violence.
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    • Posted by Maritimus 6 years, 7 months ago
      Bravo! You are exactly right in describing them. I lived for 18 years in a communist tyranny. They loudly proclaimed what you quote: "If you are not with us, you are against us." It is clear to me that these intolerant groups now lust for that kind of tyrannical power. We all know how that ends.
      Thank you for spelling it out for the uninitiated.
      EDIT: Corrected spelling.
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    • Posted by BeenThere 6 years, 7 months ago
      "...a catalyst of exclusion, oppression and violence."

      I believe that is their purpose; if not the rank and file, then the organizers/financers.
      Goal? Extreme chaos convincing people of the need for extreme government control
      (and not meaning law enforcement, which if used rationally, would stop much of this).
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 7 months ago
    Black Lives Matter is a racist group trying to get special favors for black people. If the police are violating peoples rights, it should be dealt with as a human rights issue, NOT a racial issue.

    As to feminism, it has been my experience that women rise to the level of their ability and drive, just like men to. Feminism seems to me to be an attempt to effect that rise for women when they havent earned it.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 7 months ago
    My answer is a simple one and as directly to the point as I can make at this time.

    ALL these groups show a blaring lack of accountability for their own actions, going so far as to make stuff up to keep the fight from smoldering out.

    I did, however read a Blaze piece today where a BLM local leader actually made a cogent speech at, of all places, a Trump rally.
    Asked after his speaking, he stated that he was pleased that just maybe now, we can have an honest discussion.
    He surely stands out as a conscious being unlike the bad actors at the head of that organization.
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    • Posted by jhagen 6 years, 7 months ago
      "ALL these groups show a blaring lack of accountability for their own actions, going so far as to make stuff up to keep the fight from smoldering out." YES!!! Well put. This needs to bought up more often.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 7 months ago
    They are not fighting for CIVIL rights. They have those already.
    They are fighting for EXTRA rights. Special Treatment, and GROUP Rights...
    Sorry. Groups don't have rights, People Do!
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  • Posted by brkssb 6 years, 7 months ago
    Fighting for civil rights or fighting for privilege over others?
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
      Since MLK won the fight for civil rights way back during the 60s, there's that other thing.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 7 months ago
        Yes. I think in the late '90s Rush Limbaugh made the observation that sometime during the '70s the civil rights movement converted to the civil rights industry. The "rights" issue was met, but there was power to be had and money to be made. The old Jim Crow was deep-sixed and the new Jim Crow began to rise.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
          When I joined the Alabama Department of Corrections in 1982, I was taught at the Selma academy that state prison inmates were inspired by the civil rights movement to gain more rights.
          I was also taught that prison inmates were supposed to be slaves for the length of their sentences and this was based on an academy instructor's interpretation of the 13th Amendment, which pretty much does say that~
          https://www.google.com/search?q=13th+...
          Inmates writing writs to the federal court led to officers wearing name tags, writing tons of incident reports for just about anything unusual and each prison providing a law library to help inmates write writs.
          I was sued three times during my 21-year career.
          Fortunately, all three were quickly thrown out by a judge but I had to go to the time-wasting bother of writing a rebuttal or whatever that was called.
          One of those three inmates kicked me in the butt while I was busy fighting another inmate.
          He got upset due to my writing him up because it prevented him from going to work release the following week.
          Yeah, he was really ready to go to work release alright.
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          • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 7 months ago
            Hmm, makes one wonder who's really in charge. Just had a thought... I wonder if our government could save a few bucks by paying some other country to handle our prisoners, say China for instance. Think of it as an "involuntary cultural education program".

            I lived in China on a working contract a couple of times and from what I've heard nobody wants to land in a Chinese prison.
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
              The federal courts are the ones really in charge of state prisons.
              Subjects taught during a week of annual training are all about the signed off on transfer of liability.
              In other words, at the end of a "block of instruction," you sign paperwork that the state told you to do or not to do something.
              That way, the officer answers to an inmate's grievance in federal court, not the State Of Alabama.
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              • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 7 months ago
                Ha, thanks for the informative reply, Dino, as I didn't realize that. However, my "who's in charge" statement was meant to be more facetious than a query into facts, as in it seems from your description the inmates have a lot of power over those charged with guarding over them and that power can be down right irritating and misdirected for dubious purposes. Inmate power at a Chinese prison, from what I understand, is zero or in some cases less than zero, which is why I suggested it may be "culturally educational" for some of our inmates to experience a Chinese prison.
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
                  The way a Chinese prison is controlled likely requires more guard manpower and tighter confinement. What USA prisons calls "lock down" (for sleep, counts, occasional institutional searches), the Chinese probably do it 24/7.
                  During a shift briefing a supervisor said, due to their numerical superiority, it is the inmates who let us boss them around.
                  Why? They want order. They want us to protect them. We give them three squares a day. We all know CPR and take them to the infirmary and/or transport them to the ER when they are sick or injured. We also transport them to medical specialists and guard them in hospitals.
                  Order (aka "custody and control") in the nevertheless criminal environment inside a prison is almost all of the time.
                  Prison riots that make headlines are rare incidents.
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                  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 6 months ago
                    Thanks for the insights, Dino. This is something I know very little about and I always pay attention to your posts when you offer something on the subject. You have a valuable experience to share with the rest of us here.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 7 months ago
    They are all far left groups that serve the purpose of giving the useful idiots something to do, also to keep their names in the media, to prohibit free speech, and foment riots. They are are not fighting for civil rights. M.L. King, Jr. would reject them out of hand. In some cases, even their group's name is a lie, not to mention the slogans they shout and the words they spew.
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  • Posted by TomSwift 6 years, 7 months ago
    There is an activist group in Canada called "Idle No More" that is concerned with native issues. When I first heard the name I thought, "Finally, the Natives are going to be productive and work to end the culture of dependency and despair that has existed in Canada due to the extreme socialist policies enacted by the government to provide cradle-to-grave handouts and the reserve system, which prohibits natives from purchasing their land and simply benefits the unelected Chiefs. I was quite disheartened to find what the activists meant by "Idle No More" was to demand more special treatment and handouts, instead of being more discrete i their demands. The entire system is doomed to failure but it is politically impossible to state otherwise in Canada. Very sad.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 6 years, 7 months ago
    Until this morning I would have said all those groups fight, not for true civil rights, but for civil privileges for themselves and their members.

    But I now learn that yesterday the organizers of a rally in DC in support of President Trump took a chance on inviting the leader of a rag-tag group of BLM demonstrators to step up to the mike and speak!

    What happened next, no one could have predicted. The BLM leader found common ground with Donald Trump's fans. On things like weeding out the bullies from among big-city police forces, to name one example.

    It's enough to make me suspect someone has been egging these "civil rights" groups on behind the scenes, with a view to starting a civil war. Yesterday someone opened a steam-release valve. And against anyone's expectations, it worked.

    See here for the details.

    https://conservativetribune.com/blm-s...

    What do you think? I think somebody circumvented the handlers of a would-be rioter.
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  • Posted by Storo 6 years, 7 months ago
    None of the groups you mention care a whit about "civil rights". They are all groups that are funded by either Leftists who want to bring disruption and chaos to ordinary Americans, or by rich Globalists who want to bring disruption and chaos to ordinary Americans.
    We need our President and Attorney General to investigate these groups, find their financial supporters, and cut off their money. They would then evaporate.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
      For some reason the name, George Soros, just up and jumped into my dino head when my eyes reached "funded" in the second sentence.
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      • Posted by Storo 6 years, 7 months ago
        Oh, yes, his finger prints are all over this stuff.
        I just read a piece this morning that says Hillary Clinton has funneled some $800,000 to her group called "Onward Together" that has funneled money to Antifa and other protesting groups. Should we be surprised?
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  • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 7 months ago
    " Feminism " aside, groups like blm, ows, antifa, etc. are simply renamed communist groups, the communists in the early 20th century changed to "progressives" when Americans found out who they really were, no different now - change the name, goal is the same. I have covered "occupy " a couple times, the two constants are, the presence of communist/marxist groups in prominent positions throughout the "community" and the overwhelming demand for extra Constitutional new "rights", free money, anti capitalist,no borders, punishing "banksters". We need look no further than this, the founder of blm, check out her resume - and who supports her, including noted anti Americans Tom Hayden and Bill Ayers, here : http://keywiki.org/Alicia_Garza
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    • Posted by fosterj717 6 years, 7 months ago
      It is interesting the use of the term "Banksters" and "Free Money". While it is true that there has been a Banking conspiracy for years (birth of our illustrious" Federal Reserve System and the willy-nilly printing of "Fiat" money (money with no inherent value behind it).

      The control of our National economy by our "Central Bank" (yes, the Federal Reserve which is neither Federal nor a Reserve) is a central bank disguised to look like something other than it is. It was conceived by and designed by and implemented by Wall Street Bankers and their international brethern back in 1915 soon to be implemented by our favorite Racist/Progressive, Woodrow Wilson. The rest is history and yes, we are run by the "Creature from Jekyll Island".

      Incidentally, can you name the four remaining countries that do not have central banks? It is an interesting anecdote when viewed in our current geopolitical climate.

      Also, Betty Friedan(sp?) is/was a Communist an this shows how such movements (including the Feminist movement) are co-opted and for the most part championed by Stalin's "Useful Idiots".....
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      • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 7 months ago
        The banksters and free money terms evolved from the same core movement, ocs, occupy, dsa,world workers party and our new kids on the block - blm. they are terms I heard over and over when I was around occupy several years ago. I do not know those countries, my guess would be they have other domestic issues I excluded the feminists simply because I don`t know much about them, other than they seem to get really pissed if you hold a door for them... Useful idiots are the engine of the train wreck of communism, I think this shot explains them perfectly - http://www.starznbarz.com/Politics/OC...
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  • Posted by fosterj717 6 years, 7 months ago
    Like all movements, especially those with their genesis going back to the 1960's, they must be taken on two levels. The one that they ostensibly stand for and the other being how they support agendas other than the one's stated. Saul Allinsky orchestrated this very deftly.

    It should be noted that Antonio Gramsci (Italian Communist) developed the "way ahead" for Communism and the defeat of the Industrial Democracies while in prison back in the 1930's.

    Part of his approach dealt with how to defeat the most difficult of those democracies, that being the US. His plan was brilliant!

    He knew that our greatest strengths were derived from our diversity (E Plusibus Unum - "Of many one"). Secondly, our deep seated belief in God and lastly, our national character and unique Constitution.

    He felt that the best way to defeat the US was to turn our greatest strengths against us. Our diversity would end up being our Achilles heal. It was brilliant how he developed the way ahead for those who followed him (I.e., Saul Allinsky, etc.). He first turned Blacks against Whites, then Women against Men and then all of the other "Identity" groups until we became so Balkinized" that have been on a downward spiral ever since. In addition to the above, the assault on religion has been relentless and highly successful. Christianity has been somehow turned into some type of Terrorist tool thanks to the Mainstream Media, Hollywood and a relentless assault through the judiciary and other government organs.

    Now that the stage has been set by our "diversity" there are those moving in for the Coup de grace and the worst part is that we did all of this to ourselves with our eyes wide open but our brains on "standby". Shame on us!
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    • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago
      You didn't say *how * you think a 1930s Italian prisoner did all this in America. Ideological collectivism with its modern version of tribalist infighting through pressure group warfare and battles over ethnicity aren't explained by that.
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      • Posted by fosterj717 6 years, 7 months ago
        Actually it is. We have had "tribalist infighting" for years however, it was never "thoughtfully" harnessed. The woman's movement we back to Susan B. Anthony days, racial tensions, since the Civil war, Class Warfare ever since the industrial revolution and on and on.

        Gramsci obviously pondered these point when he wrote his "manifesto" while in prison. It was that missive being essentially the last major writing on the tenets and "way ahead" of the Communist worldwide movement. It seems to have provided a "sensible" way ahead post Lenin and the Bolshevik revolution.

        He understood that World Communism, in order to succeed had to change tactics perhaps becoming more Fabian in its approach. It also had to get away from a "one size fits all" of revolution.

        Gramsci (to his credit) was able to essentially "think out of the box" especially when targeting the most difficult Western Democracy to overcome. Europe was easy, America! Not so much and he knew that. Hence, a well thought out, long range plan was needed. One incidentally that didn't get put into effect until the mid fifties thanks to Stalin and his understanding of "useful idiots"and how they could be "co-opted" and of course, Allinsky with his radical new approach.

        The rest I guess you could say is history.
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        • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago
          That's quite a conspiracy theory.
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          • Posted by fosterj717 6 years, 7 months ago
            It is not what you call a conspiracy theory. It is however a pretty well documented plan if you have ever studied Gramsci, or have an understanding of the Fabian Society (1984 is the 100th anniversary of the Fabian Society and was so marked by George Orwell). Read Saul Allinsky and I don't think you would consider this all a "Conspiracy Theory". One must remember, Stalin fully understood the shortcomings of the American psyche in that they would easily become the "useful Idiots" (his terminology). Allinsky, was smart enough to come up with his well documented strategy in the form of two books, the most well known was his "Rules for Radicals". Allinsky was an acolyte of Antonio Gramsci (by his own admission). So, if that is nothing more than a "Conspiracy Theory" there is probably nothing more that can be said to convince you this is/was the plan from the mid fifties on and it has been wildly successful wouldn't you think?
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            • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago
              Some individuals had influences in different ways. Just because some radical activist stands out does not make him the cause of what you see later. Allinsky was an a-philosophical nihilist who practiced and wrote about his local organizing tactics, which in turn influenced the tactics of the violent New Left in the late 1960s. He did not deal in ideas and principles beyond that. He did not create the trend towards collectivism or make it possible. Neither did an Italian prisoner picking up in the middle of it in the 1930s with "The Plan". (That Hillary Clinton while in college idolized Allinsky tells you more about her than any claim alleging that he was the cause of a national ideological trend with today's results.)

              In attributing their tactics as the central cause, without regard to how they caused what you claim, you have left out all account of the ideas behind cultural trends spanning centuries and how they worked their way through society and were implemented in policy. That process is ignored and replaced by conspiracy theorists with the anti-intellectual evil man theory of history typical of the way the old John Birch Society used to rationalize all kinds of alleged conspiracies it hysterically embraced and tried to spread -- and the way the current "Agenda 21" UN conspiracy theorists hysterically spread radical quotes from powerless UN functionaries rationalized as a dire threat, while ignoring the source and spread of ideas and how they are in fact implemented in policy by those with the means to do it in all levels of government.

              The British Fabians played a larger role, but not as a conspiracy of evil characters who "somehow" were able to act in government. They were sophisticated intellectuals who adopted socialist ideas beginning in the late 19th century and who knew what they were doing. They were not radical nihilistic street agitators, they were a growing group of professional intellectuals who organized to consistently spread their ideas throughout the professions and in politics over decades, including in America, in order to turn them into government policy. They couldn't have done it without the existing established intellectual trends, and without building on and associating with the ideas already adopted by other intellectuals in both Britain and the US in accordance with the European counter-Enlightenment philosophy that had spread to America. As an intellectual movement, some of whose members were influential in government (like Keynes) they were one part of the trend in the spread of ideas and their implementation.
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  • Posted by TheOriginalBadBob 6 years, 7 months ago
    I have found that they can not even consistently define the words that they are opposing. I have challenged these activists online to define words that they throw around like "racist", "sexist", "misogynist", "fascist", "nationalist". I rarely get a response, even on a public forum. If I get one, it differs in serious and specific ways from other definitions I have gotten.

    My first point is that these people are not even fighting the same things as each other, standing shoulder to shoulder and shouting the same chants. Secondly, they slap a label on you with a very innocent and loose definition and then try to associate you with other interpretations.

    The conclusion is that there is zero consistency about what they are opposing.

    The same is true about what they are fighting for. Generally, when interviewed by the press about their demands, they get evasive. How can anyone claim to be a real protester if they can not tell you what they are fighting for. Hell, they wouldn't even be able to tell if they got it.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years, 7 months ago
    In reply to DrZarkov99: Yes! And if anyone should replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill, it should be Sarah Breedlove (Madam C.J. Walker).
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 7 months ago
      Learned from The History Channel that Andrew Jackson hated paper money.
      I can only imagine there was some spiteful snickering and giggling when poor Andrew's face was put on a $20 bill.
      Whoa, new thought! Maybe Indians did it! Jackson was president during the Trail Of Tears.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 6 years, 7 months ago
    I am not denying that there are issues that need to be addressed but the means and motivations are questionable.

    From The True Believer (1951), Eric Hoffer:

    Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil.

    It is doubtful if the oppressed ever fight for freedom. They fight for pride and power — power to oppress others.

    There is a fundamental difference between the appeal of a mass movement and the appeal of a practical organization. The practical organization offers opportunities for self-advancement, and its appeal is mainly to self-interest. On the other hand, a mass movement, particularly in its active, revivalist phase, appeals not to those intent on bolstering and advancing a cherished self, but to those who crave to be rid of an unwanted self.

    A mass movement attracts and holds a following not because it can satisfy the desire for self-advancement, but because it can satisfy the passion for self-renunciation.

    Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for the lost faith in ourselves.

    A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 6 years, 7 months ago
    Post-modernism/neo-Marxism --> irrational/illogical Identity politics. Denigrate and destroy Western Enlightenment derived Natural Individual rights and science facts by overpowering them with so called 'civil rights'.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 7 months ago
    These groups are divisive and striving to segment society to suit their own agendas.
    While each may have some legitimate positions to rise from which should be addressed, all, in their effort to attract a broader base, expand their views and actions, radicalize to varying degrees, beyond being a healthy construct for the society which spawned them.

    I'll add, if they are taking money from Soros and taking advice from him or O, they are today's brown shirts or black shirts.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 6 years, 7 months ago
    Most of these groups are not fighting for legitimate civil rights at all, but "Social Justice" demands which amount to communism. And quite a few of them are not even real grassroots groups, but fronts which rely mostly on paid fake demonstrators and are funded by Soros or people like him.

    For instance, here's a lady blogger who personally saw protestors wearing "BLM" shirts and protesters wearing "KKK" shirts arrive in Charlottesville together on the SAME buses. http://lesliebard.blogspot.com/2017/0...

    Feminism, like the NAACP, were legitimate civil rights movements in the past but didn't stop when they won, and are now simply "gimme-ist" groups fighting for all the unearned and undeserved special favors they can grab for their members. If asked why I don't support them I point out that their "victim cards" were only backed by the "Bank of White Guilt", which as Ann Coulter says, went bankrupt for good around the time of the first OJ Simpson trial. Those people are simply not victims of anyone but themselves any more; the individuals who suffered unjust discrimination are all over 60, and so are the individuals who did it.

    As for police using unjust force, that does happen but (1) it is not about race (though most non-blacks have better sense than to provoke the police to the degree they do in BLM videos), and (2) most of BLM's chosen "martyrs" forced their opponents to kill them, including their first, Trayvon Martin.

    The only civil rights movements I care much about right now are anti-SJW movements, including the movements to legalize drugs and sex work. And most of the groups mentioned in the title are part of the enemy.
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    • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago
      Civil rights are the implementation and specific application in law of moral rights of the individual. The name 'civil rights' has been co-opted by collectivists who oppose individual rights. The real civil rights battles today are mostly on behalf of property rights in various forms against the establishment and the left.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 6 years, 7 months ago
    Too many aggrieved parties have couched their demands in terms of 'civil rights', which from the beginning was a poor choice of wording. Legally it should have been Constitutional rights, the rights granted to all persons who are citizens of The United States. From the Latin 'civitas' the English language developed civic, civil, civilian, civility which infers a sense of communality and interaction between people as opposed to uncivil and incivility. Equality under the law is a Constitutional proviso, however, when demands for certain accommodations are referred to as 'civil rights', they must also be weighed against the consequences which are either intentional or unintentional. For instance: Black lives do matter but when BLM advocates killing cops and then is responsible for the death of a black police officer, how can that be rationalized into claiming a 'civil right'?
    Next is that claiming 'civil rights' and imposing one perspective upon society denies those with an opposing view to challenge it. 'Civil rights' is The Constitutional football, the team which possesses it is in control of the game and usually the score. Rights are not scores, specific or selective rights are dangerous, the same rights apply to all or there are no rights.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 7 months ago
    They are no longer necessary.
    2. Equal rights are important, but largely available, and remedy for real issues are available and effective.
    3. Much activity and communication from these groups are are to incite, create issues where none exist, garner political support and special rights, which are inconsistent with item #2.
    Therefore, these groups are a net negative at this point. If anyone really wanted to solve this issue, they would coach people to ignore race, gender and gender identity as an issue. Similarly poverty would be better served by eliminating welfare.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 6 years, 5 months ago
    just back from 6 months in Yellowstone with no cell phone service and no internet....there are only "individual" rights...no white, black, civil, group. or otherwise rights...
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