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Public Education is evil because...

Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago to Education
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I'll start.

Public Education is evil because it assumes that parents are too stupid or too lazy to educate their children and, therefore, the State must compel them to do so.

Your thoughts?


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  • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You've just hit the nub of the problem! Not enough of we Americans are thinking logically or even thinking at all. We've been encouraged no to think by that Public Education system. Soon thinking logically will be a crime whose punishment will be the forced attendance at re-education seminars in the Gulag. See you there:-)
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes.... "scare them into learning"...behavior management sucks out all the teaching time and what they really end up learning is how to get praised for obeying and walking in a line.
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  • Posted by Paulford11 10 years, 8 months ago
    Absolutely not. Public education is the only compulsory attempt to fight ignorance and idiocy in this country. If you find that the curriculum or the politics don't jive with your own, then feel free to withdraw your student and send them to an educational institution of your choosing. However, as there will always be parents who are not very worried about doing what is necessary to make their offspring into productive citizens, I will continue to attempt to stamp out ignorance whenever it rears its head in my classroom.

    I will leave you with Ms. Rand's ideas on education.

    “The only purpose of education is to teach a student how to live his life-by developing his mind and equipping him to deal with reality. The training he needs is theoretical, i.e., conceptual. He has to be taught to think, to understand, to integrate, to prove. He has to be taught the essentials of the knowledge discovered in the past-and he has to be equipped to acquire further knowledge by his own effort.”
    Ayn Rand, author of The Fountainhead, Anthem, & Atlas Shrugged
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I could not agree more. I would like to see the current school system abolished, including the Department of Education, and replaced with home schooling and private non-union schools.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    During the 15 years I have been fighting the increasing evilness of government schools, starting with outcome based ed to the current Common Core, I have seen parents show more and more apathy. I have written countless letters to the editor, overcome the Delphi Technique when appointed to a committee, and even became the local paper's school education reporter for a while.
    Communism, Marxism, or socialism are patient and never ceasing enemies of reason.
    I have seen the IQ of teachers decline, just as has the IQ of students. By high school, we learned our daughter's IQ was well above that of most of the teachers in the system. It made her lazy and yet susceptible to their social brainwashing.
    Invincible, no. But as long as parents continue to accept that employees of public schools know best, and they are not capable of making decisions for their children, nothing will change. The intelligence in this country continues to decline, and that is what gov't. wants, despite their protest to the contrary.
    Just as few are watching the direction of UN Agenda 21 in this country, even after the prez promised to implement it, even as local communites move forward with it. It will change the whole way we live, take property rights, but no one is watching. It has nothing to do with the environment, and everything to do with control, just as the school issue does.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.

    "I love they way j_IR1776wg & LetsShrug thinks! "
    Thank you. I believe we are a vocal and growing minority. We must keep trying to inform our fellow citizens. I just bought your book.

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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe will will have to find our own "gulch", where reasons reigns.
    I read "Brainwashing in Red China", which served as inspiration and guidance to the US Communist Party.
    They ultimately taught getting psychologist, but not good ones, involved in the lives of as many children as possible. They also taught, "Set teens wild in the streets." This is what teaching them no right or wrong and to ignore the values of their elders is doing..
    As mentioned in another post, the writer mentioned the Common Core curriculum and how it will decide if the children are right thinking, or need to be "re-educated", based on what the one world politicians want them to think.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish reading "Anthem" in public schools was encouraged. I really with reading "Atlas Shrugged" was part of the required reading for high school. Kids just do not understand what capitalism was meant to be.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. When I was a youngster, the communists would take dissidents and send them to "re-education camps". Maybe you and I will meet in one.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My daughter, with whom we spent time almost daily trying to reverse the brain washing in her classrooms, now home schools her own children.

    Sadly, once Common Core becomes the law of the land, per our prez. and thanks to B. Ayers and Bill Gates, even home schooled children will no longer be safe from the brain washing. They thought to include them in the requirements. Parents have a war to fight, and too many do not even see it.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for confirming what I saw as my daughter went through gov't school. She now home schools her kids.
    Reagan tried to get rid of the Dept. of Ed., but the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) would not allow it. They said they needed it. Right, needed it to brainwash enough generations to get the one world socialism they so desperately needed.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are so right. Schools teach anti-capitalism, while telling students to seek the six figure incomes "they deserve". Schizo system. They do NOT teach them about hard work and responsibility to do a good job. Even the public meetings with parents involve the use of the Delphi Technique to manipulate and brainwash parents to give them the results they want. Atheism is applauded, while tolerance and even exercises involving other religions are encouraged. They learn there is no right and wrong. We studied Columbine two years before the tragedy there, and said the outcome based ed used there would lead to bad things. It was worse even than we anticipated.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh naive one. It goes to brainwashing. No matter what is out there, the gov't schools have a captive audience for hours each day. Worse, they employ pseudo-psychologists to help, as is suggested in most communist manuals. When our daughter was in sixth grade, I discovered the psychologist was taking over every sixth grade class once per week, teacher kicked out. She then used subliminal tapes, Maslow group therapy and even hypnosis on these young kids. On classmate attempted suicide after a group therapy session. Our tax dollars at work. Academics, if there was time.
    When several mothers approached the school board, no one saw a problem. Finally, we were enough of a problem for them, that they moved the moron psychologist - to the high school - tenure issue prohibited firing.I passed out copies of "Anthem" to any of the kids in my daughters class who wanted one that year, along with offers of any wanting "Brave New World."
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You get it! Common Core is the last nail in the coffin for the Constitution and Capitalism (which no longer exists by any Randian definition).
    The whole college thing is a smoke screen, to get academically unprepared students into four years of college for more socialist brainwashing. Noting more, they do not want a thinking rational people to escape.They actually told our daughter in high school that college was for "socializing", not for learning. The more money we feed into gov't. schools, the less likely it is to reform, which I personally do not feel will happen anyway. Gov't schools are evil gulogs.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But that our students could actually read the Constitution and understand it. Too many could not even make it through "Atlas Shrugged". I had our daughter read "Anthem" in 5th grade, after they started teaching, "There is no I in team>" Collectivist nonsense. Upon finishing the book, she said, "Now I see what they are trying to do to me."
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago
    The system is broken, as government schools start from kindergarten on teaching socialism, anti-capitalism, collectivism and subtle to outright disrespect for parents.
    Early on, personal supplies are put in a group box to be shared, with no thought for personal responsibility for those items.
    Later, they are taught that parents don't understand students like their peers do, and they should make their own decisions without parents (age 8). A former union member once admitted it, and then complained when they later turned against teachers. When asked if they did not turn them against adults, she replied, "But, I did not think they would turn against us (teachers)."
    The NEA published a teachers-only book, "Change Agents Guide" (I have a copy). It taught how to turn around parents' objections to goofy curriculum.
    Students rank 25th in the world, and teacher IQs have now dipped to an average mere 110, on par with the mainstream media. Student IQs fall the longer they are in public schools..Yet, they feel it is fine to tell children their parents know nothing, even though parents' IQs are very often higher. Sadly, too many parents are giving up the child rearing responsibility to lesser intelligence, falling for this propaganda.
    Turned against capitalism and big business, students are taught they should start out making $100,000, or it is beneath them. This is not how economics works. Teachers tell students they "deserve" to make this - based on what?
    Ayers-like Common Core now is schools in most states, and will rewrite history while leading students toward a more Marxist mindset."Rights" are stressed, but few teachers follow it with any mention of "responsibility".
    Bogus global warming and pro-Agenda 21 ideas come by high school.
    Trust government schools - it would be safer to trust Putin.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can print everything, but that is slow and unproductive.

    My employees responded to my scribbled out instructions on a daily basis, and I have never known anyone that could neither write, or read, cursive. Such a person would never collect a paycheck in my business.

    In my opinion, if you can't at least read cursive handwriting, then you are pretty much unemployable.

    You are arguing for the dumbing down of our children....
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What if the only on that gets saved is the reeeeal one? (Electronic ones don't count...they'll be gone.)
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