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Public Education is evil because...

Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago to Education
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I'll start.

Public Education is evil because it assumes that parents are too stupid or too lazy to educate their children and, therefore, the State must compel them to do so.

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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since when does "handwritten" automatically equate to "cursive"? You are aware that it's possible to write things by hand without writing in cursive, right?
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So that's why the constitution is no longer taught in schools. The idiot professors cannot read cursive.:-)
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then how do you write out a shopping list. or take notes in class?

    How do you make out a check, or 'jot' down a date or address?

    If you are interviewing a potential employee, would you expect them to be able to write, and read, a handwritten note?
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reading and writing are important, yes, but cursive is not. Cursive is not automatically included in reading and writing any more than calligraphy is.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well not just by wishing, no. You have to make an active effort to accomplish your goals. But if you make that effort, and you don't have some kind of debilitating handicap, then yes, you can eventually achieve anything you set out to do if you're determined enough.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have to believe that you are kidding, since you listed writing as a basic skill...along with reading.

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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The sum total of what we are is nature and nurture.Do you really believe that anyone can be anything they want to be just by wishing it so?
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that's more a result of computers becoming more widely available. With computer access being so common, cursive writing has become a depreciated skill in modern society, and is no longer important.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're saying that careers are determined by genetics? Seriously?

    (Also, I'm not a socialist.)
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  • Posted by $ arthuroslund 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. Home schooling was not possible for some parents with little or no education. However, if I am not mistaken, the 19th century literacy rates were just as good if not better than today.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With no government interference and no unions, they were private. If the farmers were not happy with what their children were learning, the teacher was fired.
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  • Posted by $ arthuroslund 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, but I include private schools. Most of today's private schools are equally corrupted with socialism. 19th century farmers would get together and hire a teacher and build a one room school open to all the kids. Is that public or private?
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I knew it!! there is just something so chilling about watching 10K people standing in a stadium and reciting words at the same time while making the same exact gesture....
    it's un-American
    great post, flora. looking forward to more
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "To preserve liberty, we must encourage our people to get into the educational systems as teachers, administrators and members of the school boards" I'd rather see our people including students get out of the educational system and let it collapse. Then let a million private schools flourish with no government and no unions.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "That's where you learn basic things like reading, writing, math, and history. General subjects like that need to be taught to everybody."

    And that is where the public school system has lost it's way.

    I can't get the image of the prosecution's star witness against Zimmerman, out of my mind: a high school senior, that couldn't write, or even read, cursive.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is confusing to me. The mistake that all socialists make vis-a-vis education is that everyone is capable of being a doctor, laywer, or computer engineer. Nature, however, makes some of us carpenters, plumbers, farmers, and auto mechanics. Dewey, the NEA, and Common Core are all dissing math, reading, and history in favor of social skills. We need to abolish Public Educartion NOW!
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, there are certain skills which do need to be universally taught to everyone. The education system is divided into two basic categories: academic and professional. Professional education is where you learn the marketable skills that you'll use in your particular field (doctors go to med school, lawyers go to law school, etc.). But you can't forget or discredit the academic side of education, either. That's where you learn basic things like reading, writing, math, and history. General subjects like that need to be taught to everybody.
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