"I Got It!"

Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
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in this sense, he is objectivist...

SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmMdau8uHk


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  • Posted by Abaco 11 years, 4 months ago
    I love it.

    I realized something after becoming a father. I remembered growing up going to church. In a protestant church (probably like any other) we were told that we're born sinners, weak and unpure. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are born pure, our true spirits shining. We just get f*cked up via this society we've created, shitty parents, etc. Look at this kid. That's a pure person. I have spent a lot of time around kids with autism. Imagine that for a second...coming down with an ailment by the time you're this boy's age that affects you neurologically. I watched many kids struggle and work like mad, age 2 or 3, to break through the haze. Seeing that woke me up, and gave me clarity on the human condition.

    Sounds like this boy's mind is strong. He's got a real fighting chance.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 11 years, 4 months ago
    An illustration of the potential in the human spirit. I love this kid. His disability might actually become the best thing to ever happen to him. By overcoming that, he may realize that there are few if any things that he can't overcome.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 11 years, 4 months ago
    Thanks, K.
    Sometimes I get to wondering if my strength can hold up until the next election and then you post this little spitfire who was a "born to overcome" type.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
    I love that video.

    If I had seen this three years ago on an Ayn Rand board, I would have thought "wait what does this have to do with being angry, scared, and depressed and turning everything into politics."

    Seriously, I love new medical technologies, and I esp love little kids benefit ting and showing such determination.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
      "angry, scared and depressed.." do you mean wide open eyes, perhaps?
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      • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 4 months ago
        No kidding...what's that even mean? And, yes, everything DOES boil down to politics.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
          Try to detect a picoamp of current in a photo-diode in a crime-lab spectrometer with politics.

          Or try to pour a ton of steal. I've never done that, but I imagine the same principle applies.
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          • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
            Well the umbrella of politics casts its shadow over HOW you pour that steel, who you can sell the steel to, where you can keep the steel, and when you may take your earnings.
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            • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
              I call that policy, very closely related to policy. Policy is are the rules you're talking about. I don't know a quick definition for politics, but it's the reason why people people were protesting regularly against President Bush, and it stopped when Obama was elected even if he does the same thing. It's Democracy Now starting with the premise Republicans are bad and looking for evidence. It's the mainstream corporate media doing the same thing to Democrats. Reasonable people want the facts, but they're are so many people with self-interested reasons to cause you to get fired up and make logical errors.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
        It depends on whether you're the Pollyanna or the one suffering from paranoia and depression.
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        • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
          ah, false choice...prove you're not the pollyanna
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
            I *am* the Pollyanna in this scenario.
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            • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
              lol. yes, I got that. but I am not depressed...nor paranoid. so, I guess I'm looking for evidence...
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                No b/c you post things like this, so you're angry, depressed, stupid, or paranoid.

                If you were it would go something like this: "Here is more propaganda that Obamacare works. That kid won't be able to pay for followup treatment b/c poor monetary policy will raise prices of everything except for whatever that kid's parents happen to do for a living. Everything's going to the devil, and it's all part of a scheme to benefit those who look/act different from me. Why do you think some jet contrails last longer than others, hey? We'll I see through it! I'm close to being a genius like Roark, Hank, or Dagny. I could provide millions of dollars of value if it weren't for having to fill out 940s, 941, W-3, W-2s, RoHS complaince certs, etc. Those things are all a conspiracy to reduce us to a bronze age existence. I keep telling people how utterly foolish they are and to wake up you stupid morons, but inexplicably I never got promoted, found new clients, or built any wealth. When my employer selected me for early retirement, I decided just to go Galt and live off Social Security, some VA benefits, and Medicare as soon as I'm eligible. Now I'll just stay home and watch our impending doom on cable news. I simply can't go on producing for Moochers who decadently want some gov't program to provide for them. All my amazing productive capacity is going to waste b/c I refuse to feed the Obama machine!"

                What would a hard-core Democratic Freedom Caucus high-tech Pollyanna say?
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                • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
                  I am not interested in this game. I respond directly to your comments. I do not see you as a "type." So if the above rant was to "sum me up " then check your premises. I posted this illustrating the power of human drive, inventiveness, and self. That is all.
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                    I meant you're NOT angry depressed, stupid, or paranoid. I see no signs of that whatsoever. Omitting that one word changed the whole tenor of what I meant. Sorry about that.
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                • Posted by kathywiso 11 years, 4 months ago
                  Where did this come from...because the boy is different than you, he must have a parent on obamacare...wtf.. The kid has a drive, like all children do until they are brainwashed...this rant may be a personal vendetta, but it has no place on the gulch. I know what you are talking about, all those fricken forms that you have to fill out if you are an employer... I said, To hell with it when my school taxes were raised, first vote was defeated and a month later, they could revote....by people who don't have to contribute, but are allowed to vote to STEAL my earnings...closed my shop and Galted...that's right...and I think it is the only way to fight back..Ayn Rand had the right idea...quit feeding them...and by the way, I was very successful by my own mind and hard work.
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                    I agree with everything you say, except the part about Galting being righteous and being the _only_ way to fight back. The world is run IMHO by those who show up.
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                    • Posted by kathywiso 11 years, 4 months ago
                      I really don't care WHO agrees with what I do, I use MY mind to decide what to do with MY life.
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                      • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                        Yes! That's the main point I took away from the book. You can become a industrialist, work just enough not to need a handout, or something in between. Don't look to others for validation. Moving forward requires doing things no one's done before. "Why do we have to be the first?" You don't have to be, but you have to if you want to create something new.
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                        • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 4 months ago
                          Well, I believe that the Galters here aren't looking for anybody's validation. They certainly don't need it! I just am not sure why you have such a problem with it. Who cares if they left! They have their own reasons for doing so. Period. What you think doesn't matter. What you would choose to do, if you ever "Galted", is purely in your own best interest, and what other people think of how you should have done it better has no bearing.
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                          • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                            Yes. I was restating what kathywisco and Ayn Rand said, not suggesting anyone here lives for validation. I agree with everything you said except for what you think I have a problem with. I'm fine with people saying they're slacking off or doing whatever they please b/c that's what they wanna do. We owe others no explanation at all for what we do. I reject the argument someone is slacking off or failing to produce value as part of a program for political change. It sounds like a sanctimonious spin on not getting stuff done.
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                            • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
                              sounds sort of occupy wallstreet....have you read comments in the Gulch where people say they're doing this? I'm not sure where this concept you're putting forth comes from...I haven't read any comments from gulchers that are regulars or producers suggesting this is their life. have you?
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                • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                  I feel like an ass.
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                  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
                    lol. would it help if I told you I was not upset? I did wonder if that was how you saw me...Did you check out the book review requests from the new gulch member "Defense of American Ideals?" He is willing to send it for free for a review. I think Tom does a brilliant job of laying out the case for so much of what Conservatives tend to feel but sometimes aren't able to articulate. and he does it in that O way which is solution-oriented while still making the case. here's the link to his request:
                    http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/a6...
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                    • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                      I do not think you got laid off for bad attitude, went on gov't pmts, and then retreated to your room to indulge in conspiracy theories, LOL.

                      I'm glad you're not upset about the first part with the omitted word. I stand by the second part, though. That's how we come off, IMHO-- people with problems getting along, angry, scared, confused, and the taking the self-righteous tack that we're actually misunderstood geniuses who would provide untold value for humankind if it weren't for having to deal with gov't regulations. I find sanctimony about NOT accomplishing things very annoying. I like hearing about people who overcome the problems and do accomplish something.
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                      • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
                        I'm thinking you're a Dagny-except when you do refuse to see many of the manmade govt obstacles out there. I don't think Galt's case was EVER that he could not overcome obstacles. He was about undoing grevious wrongs. Dagny was about letting those wrongs exist and trying to leapfrog them. Then stuff happened at the end of the book. ;) I use the characters for illustrative purposes only. I understand reality. Actually, reality is worse. I always look to the future, but part of that is understanding opportunity costs. What if policies did not hamstring producers...is it possible not only they would produce more but benefit thousands/millions in the process?
                        When db and I galted, it was about accomplishing things. We realized more and more of our time was eaten up by the lack of freedoms I talk about in here and write in our novels. Leaving allows us to accomplish important work we had less time before to focus on. Eventually, we decided the value of that potential work was too important. Do not assume that those who engage in "brain drain" stop their production. check your premise
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                        • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                          "Then stuff happened at the end of the book."
                          To me the point of that was how bad bad could get if taken to an extreme. Extreme liberty would lead to an inexhaustible energy source. Extreme socialism would lead to everyone falling over one another to grab other people's stuff and focusing their efforts on sob stories and political machinations instead of making goods/services.

                          "What if policies did not hamstring producers...is it possible not only they would produce more but benefit thousands/millions in the process?"
                          Yes. 1% extra GDP growth a year works out to several times the production after 100 years. That's just tangible production growth. The overall benefit of liberty is priceless.

                          "We realized more and more of our time was eaten up by the lack of freedoms I talk about in here and write in our novels. Leaving allows us to accomplish important work we had less time before to focus on."
                          I hope you write an article or book on this topic. I'm interested in how lack of freedom was causing a problem and how physically moving helped. I love stories about people moving to try something new, i.e. the story of America and all the sci-fi with similar themes.

                          "We decided the value of that potential work was too important. Do not assume that those who engage in "brain drain" stop their production. check your premise"
                          Even if moving meant retirement, that's your right. You're not a deserter for not wanting to make something and sell it.

                          The check your premise thing means almost nothing. Arguments can be unsound because a) false premises or b) logical errors. Either one will take you to wrong conclusions. In this case, the issue is defining "brain drain", "Galting", and so on. At one point I thought you said Galting was abandoning your dreams, or maybe it was abandoning seeking your dreams within the US. Here you say "brain drain" does *not* mean stopping all production. These words need definitions.

                          In the book the Gulch residents were clearly producing stuff but out of reach of the taxing authorities.
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                          • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
                            last first. You have made several statements that clearly indicate you think that "galting" means walking away from productive activities. I am just responding to those statements by saying that is not what is happening. when a jbrenner, for example, says he "galted" by walking away from startups to teach fulltime, in one sense the world is definitely losing because of the disruptive nature of the tech area he invents in. In another sense, he has more time to devote spreading ideas. I agree with Rand that this is fundamentally a war of ideas we're fighting against socialism.
                            Here is a small example of what I am talking about. In 2000, 406 companies went public. After the passage of Sarbanes Oxley, those numbers just plummeted. In 2000 (as a sample year) the US had more companies go public than any other country. Why shouldn't we? Now we are not on top. Here is a paper that I cite for numbers. I do not agree at all with their premise, as bigger companies absorbing startups in the long run are not good for economy as it is proven startups are the 95% of all net new jobs in the US.
                            http://fisher.osu.edu/supplements/10/120...

                            Last year 222 companies went public, however their earnings are less than a third per company than in 2000.
                            Finally, I suppose we are of an age to consider early retirement, but that was not our choice. We chose to focus on writing books. As a team we write fiction novels. Db is currently also working on a second non-fiction book about growth economics.
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                            • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
                              "You have made several statements that clearly indicate you think that "galting" means walking away from productive activities"
                              You give a few good examples of Galting, but I still don't know what it means. That's fine, but nothing I say about it has any meaning since I don't know what it is.

                              Regarding Sarbanes Oxley, I know little about it apart from what was mentioned in some general business books I've read (Execution: The Discipline of Getting Things Done, and one other book I can't recall, maybe it was Unintended Consequences). My uninformed guess is that the law made public incorporation less favorable, and that's pushing businesses to be owned by private equity rather than public. If this guess is right, I do not know if this is good or bad.

                              Regarding 2000, that was the peak the of the tech boom. VCs were funding companies that had no profits, sometimes companies that didn't have real sales if you discounted mutual advertising sales between Internet companies. It's not fair to compare the tech boom to this run-of-the-mill expansion cycle. Maybe with better policies, we could be in a major expansion, something akin to 2000 but sustainable.

                              I agree with the general idea we should be looking for ways to increase liberty, innovation, and just letting people do their own thing in general. Things could be a lot better. I'm not sure on the claims that number of IPO is a figure of merit. I agree we want more startups which are good at innovation AND more mature businesses which are good consistency. We want more people solving each other's problems.

                              That's great that you're writing books. Calling that "galting", in my confused understanding of the term, sounds like an insult. You're just doing a job you want to do, trying something and seeing if it works. I call that life. Maybe "Galting" is what I call life.
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