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Three Generals in Trumps high level staff and Cabinet. Anyone worried?

Posted by mminnick 7 years, 4 months ago to News
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With three general officers in top admin posts named so far, is anyone concerned that the military is getting too munch power in the civilian arena?
I know the Eisenhower had to step down as a 5 star general when he was elected president but 5 stars carry a different responsibility and have different rules the main one being they never retire they just keep going.
These general have all retired after years of service to the country. All have great credentials for the positions they have been nominated for. I don't dsee an issue here. They will take the oath of office and have clearly demonstrated the capability and capacity to uphold that oath on multiple occasions.
Me? I'm not worried, I'm proud that men like these are willomg tp gp through the confirmation process and continue to serve their country..


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  • Posted by wmiranda 7 years, 4 months ago
    The people less likely to engage in war are those who have been in war and know how to engage in warfare. I worry more about lifelong career politicians in office engaging in war than retired generals in cabinet positions. They are the most qualified and most experienced in managing large organizations and decision making. As the saying goes: For those who fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know".
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 4 months ago
    So, we should not worry about career politicians who have the pretty face and gift of BS but we should worry about highly trained military men who have proven themselves in and on the field of battle with the ability to lead men and a major organization.
    My Senator is Chuck Schummer and I would not trust him to care for my dog but he is the leader of the dumbocrats.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 4 months ago
    There are two kinds of flag officers (generals and admirals): real professional leaders, and politicians in uniform. The former are dedicated, trustworthy public servants. The latter are self important, untrustworthy careerists. During my military career I had the experience of working for both types. Thankfully, there were more of the good ones than the bad.

    Since all of the generals Trump has selected have already proven they are willing to stand up to an incompetent Commander in Chief, they appear to be the good guys. They all have experience with controlling large, highly complex organizations, I have no reason to doubt they will be very competent in their assigned duties.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
    Just in case people (like CNN) are confused, there are no military officers in Trumps cabinet. They are all civilians, retired military, but now civilians.

    I would say in my experience most military people are not skilled at developing new management structure. They have moved from post to post in fully-manned, positions their entire careers. They are pretty much terrible as P&L business turn-around agents (terrible!); however, they can be great at managing a successful staff, and instilling additional vision and discipline.

    Having worked with many retired military, including many general officers, I do NOT see an interest in war mongering. They know what war is, what is winnable, and what is scary as a post-win scenario. These people can be great leaders, just don't look to them to reset an organization.
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    • Posted by philosophercat 7 years, 4 months ago
      I agree based on much similar experience including Council on Foreign Relations. I also bartended at an officers club and met a lot of young officers whose names ended up on the casualty black board during Viet Nam.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 4 months ago
    I am not worried at all. I want people in government who say what they think and arent afraid to act to defend my constitutional rights. Down with politically correct government people like we have now.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 4 months ago
    When it comes to strength it is much better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. The military is the ultimate immune system.
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  • Posted by RanScott 7 years, 4 months ago
    Not at all worried about the Generals. Recalling the "qualifications" of too many Obama appointees (and the unusually long delay in filling some of those positions), Trump's appointees offer a history of accomplishment in their respective military careers. Probably the most anyone can say at this juncture is that hopefully, Trump's appointments will help deliver the kind of reasoned judgments born by experience that will help Trump to become a better President and leader for the nation and our allies than Obama's commitment to political ideology allowed him to be.
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  • Posted by jimslag 7 years, 4 months ago
    I am not concerned. I know I was Navy but I got to meet some of the Generals, of course, they were not generals when I met them. They are all great men with outstanding credentials. I really feel good about General Mattis in the Defense Secretary position. He will bring the pride back to being in the military and build it back to the strong fighting force that it should be.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 4 months ago
    Hey...at least they aren't cops.

    hehehe...
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    • Posted by NealS 7 years, 4 months ago
      Hey, that ain't even funny, at least it wouldn't have been if Hillary had got elected. Think about some of our government, what are they, if not the police? The EPA, IRS, DOE, and on and on. What more powers would they get under her?
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  • Posted by philosophercat 7 years, 4 months ago
    I will take anyone who has stepped forward and sworn to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic and lived up to that oath against any liberal think tank academic who has not.
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  • Posted by walkabout 7 years, 4 months ago
    Frankly, I would not mind seeing an amendment to the United States Constitution raising the age the President to at least 55, clarifying what it means to be a "Natural Born Citizen" and REQUIRING the candidate having served honorably in one or the other of the five branches of the United States Military.
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 7 years, 4 months ago
    The "Art of War" is about deleting your enemy WITHOUT fighting. It is about out thinking the enemy.. Worried, NO. Obama has caused so much harm, "open borders, illegals go ahead and vote, LBGT it is OK for men to use the little girls room. What worries you more?
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  • Posted by $ FredTheViking 7 years, 4 months ago
    The founding father went out of their way to prevent the military to have too much power politically. Their aim was to make the military subservient to the government. History has shown time and time again when people in the military has too much political power they often tempted to take power and with the military behind them they are often successful.

    The appointments are a bit concerning but the president and the secretary of defense will be civilian. Plus the military has been regimented to be loyal to the state and not the generals. Of course, its to be seen what kind of president Trump will be. I feel fearful he will ultimately be ineffectually and a weak president, but that is to be seen.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago
      The fact that they have retired from the service and have had a successful career is not a negative.
      They have seen the negative of career politicians that pose unnecessary danger to our troops with restrictive rules of engagement.
      I think I'll go sit in the rocking chair for a while, no on second thought there is 1/2 a foot of snow to shovel . I can't rock it off the driveway.
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    • Posted by philosophercat 7 years, 4 months ago
      You seem to forget that military men and women have moral standards to meet as well as an oath. They actually believe that men have values and can hold to them to guide action in the moral scum that inhabits the streets of Washington. The danger is pragmatists in office who have no morality. All the officers up to 4 stars and Command Sgt. Majors I have met believe in civilian control.as the guiding principle of the military. They understand this country is built on principles and they put their lives on line to protect them. John McCain is a good example as was Maxwell Taylor who led the 101st into Normandy. I gave him, as former Commandant, Ayn Rand's speech at West Point for which she received a standing ovation.
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      • Posted by $ FredTheViking 7 years, 4 months ago
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        • Posted by philosophercat 7 years, 4 months ago
          This is what you offer as support for your claim? This is all you can come up with as an intellectual defense of your criticism of Generals? Let me see your proof of God's goodness and Oswald's marriage to Jackie.
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          • Posted by $ FredTheViking 7 years, 4 months ago
            No, there is plenty of example of governments that find themselves undermined by their military. However, it seems based on your assertions that the US military is somehow special and very different from other militaries of the world especially when compared to militaries that support coups.

            The example I provided was given for you to reconsider your faith in the incorruptible of the US military. The fact is there is a military industrial complex where people in the military and people in the business world have closed ties and cozy relationships. Under certain circumstances, the US military could be use to support a coup. It was attempt in the business plot back in 1933. (The background of which can be found on Wikipedia. The link I provided.)
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