Might we consider an alternative political system called epistocracy.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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I kinda like this idea...seems to fix some of the problems with democracies.

"Epistocracies retain the same institutions as representative democracies, including imposing liberal constitutional limits on power, bills of rights, checks and balances, elected representatives and judicial review. But while democracies give every citizen an equal right to vote, epistocracies apportion political power, by law, according to knowledge or competence."


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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    its a matter of degree. If the locomotive is speeding down the track uncontrollable, woudlnt you rather have someone at least try to put on the brakes?
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and go back and look at the record, the lies, the deciet, the fabrications, then Pelosi holding Congress hostage at Christmas until they caved. And who got prosecuted? No one. Looting and pillage right in front of their eyes, yet the sheeple will continue to bleat "We need Hillary", and then bitch and moan when they have no money and look for another government handout. It is a vicious cycle perpetuated to enable control. These people are the ultimate control freaks, and manipulators. Just as AR predicted and tried to tell the unwashed masses..who ignored her...
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nope, it IS the problem, and has been for 60 years, just different names and, of course, "programs".
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is formal education and then there is understanding a Constitution system of government. They aren't necessarily inclusive (unless you graduated from Hillsdale College). Note that I didn't mandate any standard level of education, only that they be able to properly identify key parts of the political process they were involved in. They can get that from 15 minutes reading a primer.

    In the original days of the United States, Town Hall meetings were the social/political event where everyone gathered to discuss the welfare and organization of their areas. Those there actively participated in government: they knew the issues and vigorously debated them and as a result the People knew what they were doing. Nowadays, a Town Hall meeting is just a pulpit for politicians to come and politely listen to their constituents before going back to Washington and consulting with their lobbyists.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    educated today means you get degrees from government indoctrination centers !! (public school system)
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    pretty slippery slope though, given we dont even find out what happened until much later. If we did, there wouldnt be need for whistleblowers !!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stop drinking the Trump kool-aid. Trump has been an insider since puberty and his actions prove him unacceptable for the office (just like all the other statist pols.) I know you are frightened of Hillary. The GOP has played on that fear for 30 years and Trump is doing the same, playing on your fear to get power for himself. We don't need a monarch or a politburo to expand the state. We need a free market, elimination of the tax on production, and someone who will veto all attempts to expand the fedgov.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are just filled with compartmentalized bull crap...they are not smart, knowledgeable nor informed.
    Maybe we should redefine "Educated" also.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe we must redefine "Knowledge" to mean...THE TRUTH OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED in history and the difference between empirical facts and theory.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    WE dont have democratic vote for CEO of McDonalds. If the government is simply administrative and following a strict constitution, we dont need to all vote on picking a president. His power is totally limited by the constitution, and he better be efficient and do things at lowest cost, LIKE the CEO of any other corporation
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trouble is that the more educated people seem to be the evil socialists. The lower class people tend to rely on their human instincts more, and this has probably slowed down the advance of socialism somewhat.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But look at what Obama did- Obamacare. Premiums went up from $153 to $409 per month for less coverage
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I sure wouldnt release a product like Rearden metal in this environment. I would just make some things for myself and not feed the beast, especially if Hildebeast gets in. Maybe we would have a few more years if Trump can get in- if the masses vote for him.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. Look at the hatred for Trump. And he is getting IT for being anti-establishment as his crime.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lets start with Trump. He is anti establishment, which is why he is hated so much by the media and even the repub party which he hijacked !!
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
    Look at all the "knowledgeable" professors in colleges. They are mostly evil and terrible socialists. This system wont work.

    The system that will work is if the federal government is restricted to very few things like national defense, AND there is s stipulation in the constitution that forbids it from taking from one and giving to another- PERIOD. That way there is no "ruling party". Government workers from top down would simply be administrators of the limited functions of government. No Obamas, no Clintons, only managers who have proven themselves to be good at managing efficiently and inexpensively.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't really think a President has the ability to do much damage, if the system functioned as designed. Clinton proved you could be a totally useless worm, do nothing, and be lauded forever. What they did behind the scenes at securing their power, that is what is scary.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, no doubt, any effort to wrench power from their claws will end up with people going to jail on trumped up charges, or mysteriously ending up dead. That is the fear they have bred for the lat 30 years, that when any person brought it up, were labeled "conspiracy theorists". I believe a lot of the so called "theories", do have a basis in fact.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, it was a great book, I read it as a boy and many more times, Heinlein is my favorite, then David Weber...
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  • Posted by jsw225 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never really cared about placing "the society over your own self", but that the right to vote was gated in some manner that people had to earn. And I did like that in Starship Troopers, as long as you didn't do any of the 31 crash landings (murder, hitting a superior...), they couldn't kick you out for any reason whatsoever.

    Like how a guy going through Infantry training refused to be rolled out for a crippling injury, and ended up becoming the cook.
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