Might we consider an alternative political system called epistocracy.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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I kinda like this idea...seems to fix some of the problems with democracies.

"Epistocracies retain the same institutions as representative democracies, including imposing liberal constitutional limits on power, bills of rights, checks and balances, elected representatives and judicial review. But while democracies give every citizen an equal right to vote, epistocracies apportion political power, by law, according to knowledge or competence."


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I saw a lecture by David Barton, wallbuilders.com , foremost authority on the constitution and our forefathers, on that, then I read: the original argument/federalist papers.

    Very enlightening and appreciative of the work Adams and our forefathers put into this endeavor.
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  • Posted by jconne 8 years, 7 months ago
    Highly recommended reading to understand how our political model came to be is a biography of the man and his ideas -- John Adams who wrote the book on the subject. "John Adams and the Spirit of Liberty" by C. Bradley Thompson. Adams researched the history of governments over two millennia comparing their architectures and outcomes. This led to our three-part (tripartite model) balance of power.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's an idea.

    I think the pres should only be 2 years with option of only one re-election based on defined performance criteria. This way...they can't do that much damage...we always have the recall...which is hard to get done...maybe it should be easier...especially if the electorate is Pre-Qualified.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It will take a revolution to accomplish that. The powerful in the Dark Center will never give it up voluntarily. They won't even let a third party on the debate stage.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed. ST was an excellent discussion of why people need to have a commitment to whatever they are going to do, and a moral commitment to support it. Heinlein still had an elected government, you just had to prove you placed the society over your own self. It was not discriminatory, he made that clear from the get go. Everyone had the opportunity to become a citizen. Too bad we sell ours so cheaply, and get the results we do,.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One set DVD on Amazon for about 20.00, and a movie that actually tied up all the loose ends and explained it all. As Dino and AJ say, excellent show, you just have to have an open mind, as it has a different frame work from most Sci Fi.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm for one term, 6 years, for all offices. If a person is skilled enough to fill it in the first place, then he needs no "experience" which is the lie they tell for "re-election". Re-election is where the corruption starts. The other way is to remove all donations and cash for elections and go to a simple budget method, where you are allocated a specific amount for each office, and that is it. How you spend it is up to you. Have a qualifying system, and that way they never need to beg.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's a cancelled Sci-Fi TV series that can be found on Netflix. Serenity was a very enjoyable movie.
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  • Posted by mminnick 8 years, 7 months ago
    Who determines what an educated individual is? I heard a term on a news/commentary show last week that tends to describe many of the "Educated" in this country It was I YI -- Intellectual Yet Idiot. I think it was Newt Gingrich that used it, but someone else coined the term.
    I think it describes a large majority of people now considering themselves to be educated and intellectual. I wouldn't trust them to make change at McDonalds.
    And yes I know the two skill are not the same.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
    It's like I've always said, voters should be tested for competence before they are allowed to vote and politicians should be tested for competence before they are allowed to run for office.
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  • Posted by jsw225 8 years, 7 months ago
    I always liked the one reason in the book Starship Troopers given for why they keep their "Military Democracy" as a form of government over all others.

    "Because it works satisfactorily."
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe worse.
    Imagine voting for either Shillary, Trumpery or Goofy Gary on a shareholder proxy.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 7 months ago
    A republic with term limits for all, including the judiciary. That just requires a single amendment, or the extension of the 22nd amendment to include all elected and appointed Federal officials.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 7 months ago
    I would totally support an entrance exam for voting that requires one to correctly identify at least the candidates, their political affiliations, and several random questions about the Constitution. Failure to answer at least 80% correctly disqualifies your vote. The problem with voters today is that the majority of them are literally imbeciles: they know nothing about the Constitution and few even know what the candidates represent.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It does not air anywhere old dino knows of.
    I bought its only wonderful season and its follow-up loose-end tying great movie, Serenity, from Amazon.
    It's about space smugglers whose sky is free.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm all for starting the republic over again with only the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
    Should this ever occur it will most likely be on a planet of another star system without the help of any damn corrupt earthbound government.
    Oh, they'd try to come horning in, though.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These days we have lots and lots of landowners who aren't real for really real landowners due to paying off the mortgages or "liens against property" held by the real for really real landowners.
    So I'd hate for owners (not necessarily CEOs) of banks and mortgage companies to be the majority of voters.
    Hmm, not to mention shareholders.
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