If Trump and Clinton lose, this man could be your next vice president

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 6 months ago to Government
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I disagree with the headline, but an interesting interview. You don't get to see much of it.If both the knuckleheads don't get enough, then it goes to Congress and I am sure they will not select these two...


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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not that Trump will be elected anyway, but I think he would be a lot better president than we have had in many many years. Meeting with the mexican president was a good idea, as would meetings with putin, and the chinese leaders. As long as he sticks up for America, it would be a refreshing change. Obama sticks up for Muslims and other countries.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not that I agree about Johnson's ability to achieve his goals, but better to stop socialism and get nothing done than to have either a looting witch (Hillary) or a megalomanical monarchist getting things done that destroy liberty and wreck the economy further. Being a bully is not charisma.
    Term, I do agree that there are corrupt vested interests that will oppose any pro free market change, but Johnson was a success managing for free markets in a Democrat state as governor of New Mexico. Having that experience and a belief in the principles is an advantage that neither Trump or Hillary have.They both have a completely different agenda.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Johnson would get nowhere today. He could act as a brake on the socialism stuff, but couldnt get anything enacted to increase or protect our freedoms. No charisma at all, intellectually inconsistent, and probably cant even get to 15% popular support.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago
    I would be ok with Johnson winning the presidential race. He would definitely stand in the way of a lot of socialism. But he is sort of a buffoon, and I would tend to just be disinterested in politics at that point. The brakes would definitely be on, which is a good thing. I would be happy also if congress met once a year, and there was just an efficient administrator running the bureaucracy, instead of these democratically elected dictators we have had.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago
    I like this guy better than Johnson.
    Certainly better than Clinton, and I must admit, better than Trump. The question is, can a Libertarian win THIS election? Having Hillary win just makes my skin crawl. While Trump bloviates and makes me want to tape his mouth shut often, I just can't see letting the scum sucking bottom dwelling, Hillary Clinton become president.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem is that Obama got "fast-track authority" through Congress. That means Congress can only approve or reject TPP, they can't modify it. (Of course "fast-track" may not be constitutional, I don't think any court has ruled on that question.)
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 6 months ago
    Couple things bother me: Socially liberal?...hmm, how does he feel about muslims...we've all investigated and discussed this issue and basically come to the realization the the bulk of muslim populations are not ready for civilization. And the rest of societal perversions is a whole nother story...
    TPP...neither Johnson nor weld have a clue of what's in TPP. Free trade...dah...yea!...didn't hear him say...reduce corporate taxed to 10% and the jobs will come back.
    Maybe I'm biased but have always been suspect of anyone from Mass...I live next door.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 9 years, 6 months ago
    The senate chooses the VP, if no majority arises. And only from the top two vote getters, which will likely be the Dem and the GOP candidates. Weld has next to zero chance. He will only be the VP if the LP ticket gets more electoral votes than one of the other two candidates. Johnson has a higher chance however, even if small.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Johnson does not favor gun control. He has the most open position on it of any of the candidates I know of running.
    Open borders is the Ovjectivist position. It's the only philosophically consistent answer to immigration. Open with regards to employment, etc. Still guarded for security.
    TPP is a mess, for sure. But we need to open up trade somehow. At least it's starting a discussion. The US needs to modify the deal to correct a lot of the privacy, Internet, and IP issues before signing. We have a bully pulpit. We should use it.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 6 months ago
    Both Johnson and Weld sound like big statists to me. Both are anthropogenic climate change believers, favoring a carbon tax; both favor strong gun control; both see nothing wrong with open borders and sanctuary cities; both favor the TPP, claiming it's "almost" a free trade deal.

    It seems like they think that all people want is marijuana and hiding their head in the sand.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago
    I'll post it but the besides the polls showing Clinton in a bad way despite her bad heart etc. there's now conjecture ona one candidate election. But not to worry moi have the answer.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting, I agree that Johnson would have little chance, but..it does eliminate the dark horse scenario. The Republicrats cannot slide their own boy into the mix...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If there is an unbreakable tie or pluralities but not majority it goes to the House. Pelosi and company will go for Clinton but they are a minority at present.anyway you slice it. The way they do it is one vote per state so the predominant number of any party in a state will decide. Kinda sorta imitates the electoral college. and evens out the 435 into just 50 states IF i got it right this time.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not necessarily. The 12th Amendment restricts consideration to the top three candidates receiving electoral votes. If only two candidates (Trump and Clinton) receive electoral votes, then one of them will be chosen by a majority of states in the House of Representatives. If an elector breaks from his/her party and votes for a someone else (as happened in 1972 for the Libertarian nominees), that person could also be considered by the full House. This could precipitate considerable horse trading in a close election. Johnson would theoretically have a long-shot chance in this scenario.

    If no vice-presidential candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, the Senate must decide from the top two, so Weld has no chance of being selected for this post.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Freedom, I am not sure where the logic would go on this one, it is definitely a bizarre scenario. I like his talk on taxes (the VP dude Weld). He had a thing on Yahoo that was a pretty good parallel to Objectivist ideals, and he emphasized that govt borrowing is not the govt doing it, but the people, and that politicians just think they are using someone else's visa card or something. He also had a good talk of the impact of regulation and control by government of everything. I am doubtful if anyone can actually slay the Federal government at this point, like most creatures, I am sure it has it's own self defense mechanisms.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It basically says that the Libertarians will benefit from a scenario where Clinton or Trump do not get enough votes to win, however, my understanding is that it then go to the house and we get some other slob, like Ryan.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago
    Not available in my region so who is this man? never mind i read the fine print. It just keeps getting worse doesn't it. Not sure about Pence but the other two are not Presidential material so what are they?
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago
    Money and the quest for power can make for unusual results in politics. Could Johnson satisfy big money backers and move America away from fascism at the same time? Would be an interesting dance.
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