Is this wave of islamic rape across Europe (and to a degree America) terrorism?

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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I had a long, drawn out conversation about islamic refugees having to be told not to rape women, even gang rape women, in many European countries. I contend, because of the nature of islam (which is a religion that dictates its followers social law and societal structure) is an act of terroism. My rationale is that these "people" use their culture, their social norms, as their reason to why they feel entitled to rape western women AND why western society has to make exceptions to their laws for them. Naturally, the counter argument was that its a crime despite the frequency of occurrences by a broad range of people who unifying thread is islam.

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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 11 months ago
    If I invite you to my house, you'd better be prepared to obey MY rules. If not, you'd better stay where you are. PERIOD!!!
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  • Posted by chad 9 years, 11 months ago
    Terrorism is the use of fear to coerce people into behavior norms that are desired by the tyrants who would be in charge. Whether through religion or state (they are evil twins and will always usurp the others power when they can) the result is the same. At different times in history different religions have had the power of the state and none ever sidestepped using the authority or the use of violence to get their desired behaviors. Lacking the ability of the states monopoly of using force religions still use fear, 'if you do not behave you are going to hell!' which they cannot even prove they can accomplish (or promise of heaven), reading 'The Age of Reason' when I was young Thomas Paine had convinced me within the first few pages that religion is at best hypocritical at worst destructive of humankind. Give a religion the power of using violence to control its 'subjects' and any religion will quickly reveal its desire of subjugation. Are there good 'Islamists' who have no desire to use violence, yes, will Islam as a religion use violence and force to get its way when it can, yes and many of the good Islamists will go along with it because they will feel it is their duty. Get the Ayn Rand Lexicon and read the definition of duty and how it compromises morality.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am using politics in the following American Heritage Dictionary sense:
    6. (used with a sing. or pl. verb). The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rape is horrific on an individual level, but hardly political as much as it is about dominance...on a level such as we see being practiced by refugees in Europe, for ideological (political) reasons, its being used to cow a segment of their host society and cause civil unrest, its terrorism. Only slightly are the two related...one a crime, the other - institutionalized and validated terrorism.

    My two bits.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So there is no politics in personal relationships? Family relationships are the basic learning grounds for politics and in adult relationships politics abound, especially in marriages. How else can two people get along after the courting is over and the emotions have begun to settle down? You do not need a village to not see eye- to-eye and need some, usually, implicit political rules to keep from fighting.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    islamic rape would fit into both categories would it not?: initiatory force And Terrorism - (political)
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Subjugation. They believe that they can impose their way on others AND expect it to be respected. The regularity and widespread nature of the occurrences shows a pattern of deliberate willfulness which would be an act of terror.

    My 2 bits.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not quite, and somewhat misleading.

    ter·ror·ism
    ˈterəˌrizəm/Submit
    noun
    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 11 months ago
    I think it is more about the lack of respect for women that Islam teaches. Under Islam, a woman is 1 half of 1 man, so if you are one of the 20-something single males that made up the preponderance of the arab immigrants to Europe, horny, and the white European women are not putting out for the sand fleas with body odor issues, then rape or assault is the next measure in their mind.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Terrorism is any act which has the purpose of causing terror in a person. Nearly all rape is of that type and in marriage the terror is used to control the spouse.
    By the way, thanks for mentioning "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", It's been in my library for about 25 years with a marker where I left off when I went on to other readings. It is quite good.
    The bicameral mind is still there and can be easily accessed as a trance state where one suspends the critical faculty and goes into a selective thinking state. In that state, which all religious minds enter part of the time, logic and reason still works but one does not choose to reason with just true premises, thus anything goes as long as it fits ones beliefs.
    Yes, most religion has the possibility of barbarism as did all the Abrahamic religions before the heavy hand of law and some valid reasoning civilized those other than Islam. Give it another thousand of years and maybe it can change. But for now war is indicated.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 11 months ago
    Another indication these people are not ready for self-governance and democracy. Bush and Cheney were fools. They aren't ready and don't want it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read it too, but recall her claiming to still be a muslim, not that all islam was bad, but misused by fanatics.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 11 months ago
    The only place that these acts of violence against women in the european countries is reported in Pamel Geller's News Letter which I get via email everyday. It should be reported by the mainstream media so American's should be aware that amoung moslem refugees to the USA there will be these sub-humans amoung them. The Islamic culture for the most part is incompatible with Western Culture. Plus they are illiterate to our way of life but because of their lack of education about the world. They are from mostly a tribal culture and been living that for thousand of years. Send them all to Africa!
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 9 years, 11 months ago
    Hell yes. Just ask any victim that is always afraid. Islam is evil, Mohamed is a joke and Daesh needs to be dealt with in a manner that is final. Vote veteran someone that puts America B4 any party, we come from all backgrounds. Divide and conquer is what they do. End double standard,DC politician on Obamacare,SS mrpresident2016.com
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 11 months ago
    Islam is able to prosecute terror to outsiders (infidels) because it strikes fear into the hearts of its own people. It can be argued within Islam that anyone who does not follow the Qu'ran's commands is an apostate, to be marked for death.
    Accordingly, in its present aggressive form, Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western civilization.
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  • Posted by OldScar 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The townswomen are being changed but that isn't the intent. The rape was simply asserting the powers delimited in the Koran. The effect on the victims is nearly irrelevant. If they conform, that's all well and good. If they die, that's OK too. All very cold blooded.
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  • Posted by brkssb 9 years, 11 months ago
    Rape is a crime used to foment terrorism. Terrorism is an act of war. Always helpful to define the terms; I elected to use Wikipedia because of social context (aka "popular view"). "Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is defined as the use or threatened use of violence (terror) in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological aim."
    "In ordinary language, the term crime denotes an unlawful act punishable by a state.[1] The term "crime" does not, in modern criminal law, have any simple and universally accepted definition,[2] though statutory definitions have been provided for certain purposes.[3] The most popular view is that crime is a category created by law; in other words, something is a crime if declared as such by the relevant and applicable law.[2] One proposed definition is that a crime or offence (or criminal offence) is an act harmful not only to some individual or individuals but also to a community, society or the state ("a public wrong"). Such acts are forbidden and punishable by law.[1][4]
    The notion that acts such as murder, rape and theft are to be prohibited exists worldwide.[5]" AND IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE KORAN STATES.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 11 months ago
    YES and the only answer is to ERRADICASTE the problem, muslims
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 11 months ago
    An individual rape is a heinous crime.
    Mass rape or multiple rapes committed in the name of an ideology is terrorism.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago
    A month or so ago I read of an escaped sex slave's related for an article conversation with her ISIS captor.
    Since that captor was getting anything he wanted out of her and some others anyway, she asked, "Why are you treating us so badly?"
    The captor said he treated them badly because he hoped they would (be inspired to?) convert and become his brand of Muslims.
    So methinks by extension these refugee boneheaded barbarians misconstrue Islamic rape as a terrorist conversion tool toward their dreamed of worldwide caliphate.
    It does not matter that they flee Muslims who are more bloodthirsty than they are.
    That would be entering a common sense perspective into their I get to grope equation.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Curious assessment. A towns women where these systemic rapes are occurring as a matter of "cultural assimilation" certainly do change their behavior and live in daily fear. I'd contend that its the purpose of the refugees to force society into accepting them, their beliefs, as they are, as their religion demands.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 9 years, 11 months ago
    Islam is a terrorist organization fronting as a religion...read the book "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi
    Ali to get the true nature of Islam...she grew up in it and has survived 10+ years here in this country with a fatwa on her head...
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  • Posted by OldScar 9 years, 11 months ago
    Terrorism has the aim of changing your behavior through some form of coercion. These rapes don't aim to change your behavior; they are just business as usual.
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