Violence at Trump Rallies

Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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I find the violence at the recent Trump rally just down the road from here very disturbing. I'm withdrawn from the whole thing now but the mania is clear to see. I don't remember Americans treating each other like this (aside from cops having their dogs chew people up, etc.). Throwing stuff at a woman, running up behind people leaving the venue and punching them in the head...Am I mistaken in thinking this is a new paradigm? Who in the hell thinks it's ok to physically attack somebody for their political beliefs in America? And...the cops stood down(?). WTH is going on?


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    Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 3 months ago
    It's "Pay for Violence" with no repercussions...just like what unions did legally to scabs during a strike...except this time...paid for by the demoncapic party and geogie sorrass.
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    • Posted by roneida 10 years, 3 months ago
      olduglycarl I'm not sure when violence was ever legal as a substitute for voting and discussion except when our crooked government allowed it by unions because the unions paid people off and the government flunkies were big receivers. Today the democrats pay the unions by mandating voter loyalty from their members and the unions get free, guaranteed pensions and monolopys. Never bet on a Superbowl where the referees are betting on the outcome. Democrats get away with these riots and assaults because the cops permit it..bribery is a sedutive mistress covered by many P C Descriptions, but it still is a game of whores.
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  • Posted by cksawyer 10 years, 3 months ago
    I have this disturbingly nagging intuitive feeling (Spidey-sense) ...

    I have been observing over the last year or two, approaching Obama stepping down from power, that these "spontaneous" "passion-driven" outbreaks of violence seem to be occurring with alarmingly increasing frequency and intensity - Trump-related being just small more recent examples. Almost all of them have been executed/incited by leftist organizations and/or their pet constituencies of victim populations.

    I am NOT a Conspiracist in general, BUT my paranoia (or is it?) is that they are being staged deliberately - in order to set the stage for invoking "temporary" martial law as expanded by Obama's recent relatef EO.

    Any one else getting that?
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    • Posted by $ 10 years, 3 months ago
      Very interesting. It somewhat goes along with my theory that eventually there will be one or more people murdered at a Trump rally. I hope I'm wrong. Think of the implications...
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      • Posted by ycandrea 10 years, 3 months ago
        Yeh, they'll blame Trump.
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        • Posted by $ 10 years, 3 months ago
          Of course they will. They'll tell the addled voter, "You don't want to vote for a murderer, do you?" Oh...the irony...
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          • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago
            When I read your post (without having read the previous in the thread) I thought you were talking about a comparison between Republicans who support the right to life by criticizing abortion (to keep moral religious voters voting GOP) while using drones to murder innocent civilians. Oh, the irony and the shameless lack of ethics of statists.
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            • Posted by $ 10 years, 3 months ago
              That's another facet. This kind of contradiction completed my transition out of the GOP. The gaps in logic and cavalier attitude toward life were too great to ignore anymore.
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    • Posted by roneida 10 years, 3 months ago
      cksawyer.... You've been reading my mail. I recently told by grandkids that I will probably not see it, but in there lifetime I would expect martial law in America. we are heading for the "Eave of Destruction" if you remember Barry McGuire.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 3 months ago
    I haven't followed it, but I went to several demonstrations for peace in 2002 in front of MacDill Airforce Base in Tampa. The police ushered people for peace or war to opposite side of the street. They would sometimes chant and yell, but the police carefully kept everyone on their side of the street. I never saw anyone get violent at all. I saw one person get very threatening because he thought we were not supportive of his brother who was away at war. Once of the peace protesters explained to him that were criticizing decisions of the civilian leadership, not the military, and he calmed down. People really behaved well. I wish we could have more of that.
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 3 months ago
    I think that when you have a government that takes from one to give to others, its a formula for violence. The entitled people dont want to lose their sugar daddy government, and the people who work for a living are tired of having their money stolen and given to the entitled ones.
    In this case, it was the entitled ones fearing that Trump is going to kick the establishment in the butt and they might lose their entitlements.
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  • Posted by dukem 10 years, 3 months ago
    The sixties and seventies were worse, much worse (so far), particularly in the San Francisco Bay Area, ground central for all things leftist.
    Upon release from active duty as a naval officer, I went to graduate school at Stanford, and that spring of 1970 was very violent, and it was amazing to see how the lefties would provoke and destroy. There were a number of ex-military in my group, and when the sit-ins occurred to attempt to shut down the campus, our classrooms were the only ones open, since the brainless idiots had no idea who they were dealing with. We fought our way into the classrooms, left a number of bloody noses and shattered egos, and went about our classes at the instigation of our professor. Quite a time. Now the brainless idiots are running the country.
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    • Posted by term2 10 years, 3 months ago
      Interesting. I think you are right. The hippies of the 60's and their descendants are the socialists of today. Look at the support for Bernie Sanders. Its disgusting how insanely stupid they are to think that socialism actually works in spite of overwhelming evidence it fails every time.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 10 years, 3 months ago
    I think this is also a result of the 24hr news cycle. They need to seem relevant in order to get viewers and 'if it bleeds it leads'. So while I assume these protests have remained relatively the same, it is just the angle from which it is being reported that has changed. And when you get story after story about how much discord is happening, you start believing it is on the increase even though it has remained relatively the same year after year.
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  • Posted by Annieattango 10 years, 3 months ago
    Mostly illegals participating. Things have changed. Immigrants used to come here for freedoms, now they come for freebies. When someone proposes stopping stealing from the producers and rewarding the non-productives there is anger and violence. Not only will there be no repercussions, they will be regarded as heroic in some communities and portrayed as such in some media.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 3 months ago
    Let's give these attackers a taste of their own medicine -- point camera phones at them and post the results on YouTube.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 years, 3 months ago
    This is "The Mob"....... Not organized crime.....But the same "Mob" that tore France apart during the French Revolution and Guillotined all those people. What really amuses me is that Trump supporters and Mr. Trump keep getting blamed for this. That is like blaming the woman when there is a rape.
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  • Posted by FelixORiley 10 years, 3 months ago
    "I don't remember Americans treating each other like this (aside from cops having their dogs chew people up, etc.). Throwing stuff at a woman..."

    Were you people not paying attention to the Occupy Movement? Or any of the coverage of "Black Lives Matter" riots? The "protesters" at Trump events have previously been given their green light. And the Marxist Revolutionaries have demonstrated how to do it. Joseph Goebbels would be fascinated of how the US government propaganda machine works so smoothly. Love Mr. T or hate him, there is an awakening.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 3 months ago
    "How Saul Alinsky Taught Barack Obama Everything He Knows About Civic Upheaval". It's all just part of the plan even though the majority of individuals practicing and carrying out the plan have no idea what they are doing. Left to their current direction, they will destroy our country and our way of life. There will be no hiding from it anywhere in the United States (or anywhere else they follow our current practices). I actually believe that Obama has no real idea where he is taking this country by his decisions and mandates. Even his comments influence those that can't think for themselves.

    Basically there are two solutions to put a stop to this and turn this country back around. One is civil war, a real civil war. This is due to the intensity of the division of the people. The other is to elect someone like Donald Trump, someone that will fight the establishment from the top and attempt to do the right thing no matter what.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 3 months ago
    What I don't get is what these rioters expect to get out of it. Beating on people while waving a Mexican flag is not something that will cause people to sympathize with your cause. These actions can be used to boost Trump's campaign. The only reason I can see is to foster insurrection and violence with whatever excuse available. They don't care about Trump as much as they care about creating havoc in America. After WW2 this sort of tactic wouldn't work in the slightest. But now, in the new millennia, we have a different kind of citizen rising. One that has no respect for the culture, the history, and the exceptionalism of the USA. Trump is just an excuse.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 3 months ago
    What makes you think they are Americans in the same sense as do decent people? Aniy way you slice it they are left wing socialist fascists....both sides.
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  • Posted by johnkitco 10 years, 3 months ago
    You pay $BILLION$ for "homeland security" but it is NEVER around.

    Where are the "SELF PROCLAIMED heros" of Homeland Security that should be arresting the DOMESTIC TERRORISTS who are using violence and the threat of violence in the furtherance of their political aims ....... which is the exact definition of TERRORISM ?!
    DHS is always around with it's hand out for money
    but NEVER around to stop terrorists.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 3 months ago
    I recently saw somebody I know on social media reference a video showing protesters punching and attacking Trump supporters as they leave/attend different rallies and say, "Look what Trump is inciting." These people actually do blame Trump for people who don't like Trump punching his supporters in the head.

    Anymore I'm just here for the money. This country, this society is in very dire straits. We're in a lot of trouble. Idiocracy really is a true story...
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 3 months ago
    Hello Abaco,
    "The only power of a mob, as against an individual, is greater muscular strength—i.e., plain, brute physical force. The attempt to solve social problems by means of physical force is what a civilized society is established to prevent. The advocates of mass civil disobedience admit that their purpose is intimidation. A society that tolerates intimidation as a means of settling disputes—the physical intimidation of some men or groups by others—loses its moral right to exist as a social system, and its collapse does not take long to follow." Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal pg., 256

    Our officials no longer serve the purpose for which a society is established. They have undermined their own legitimacy.

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 10 years, 3 months ago
    I have a very simple solution.

    Those that go to the Trump rallies should practice SELF-DEFENSE! Let a few Trump supporters carry and kill the trash and things will change immediately.

    Ya, I know there would be HUGE repercussions from that. It would be the poor protesters this and the poor protestors that but I guy can dream right?
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 3 months ago
    the left is making scenes like those in Missouri and
    Maryland to enrage their base into electing Hillary.
    the problem is that it works. -- j
    .
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 10 years, 3 months ago
    Really can't wait till one of them snatches Marcus Lutrell's Trump Hat. I hope somebody puts that beat down on U-Tube! It'll be good as a cage match!
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  • Posted by brkssb 10 years, 3 months ago
    In the 60s and 70s, instigators and thugs were imported to stir the pots. In a campus club, the elected officers were defeated by a majority vote of "students" who literally crashed the meeting. There were no student ID checks...and no support from the college. Thus, the demise of a student organization that had been supporting Objectivism by a group led by a dissenting Republican. Most of the former club students continued to travel several hours to New York each week to attend NBI lectures. Now, we hear of activists literally paid and transported in order to violate the rights of individuals and groups. But it's not a new paradigm. History is full of such examples, from Brown Shirts to Black Shirts to tie-dye shirts and Martial Law, and Coup D'etat. Look to the politicians.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 10 years, 3 months ago
    I think the riots are a prelude to the crisis necessary for the imposition of martial law so that 0bama and his handlers (Valjar?) can remain in power. Oh, and in the "she told you so" department, watch the lights in NYC. If the power goes out, there will be riots. Look what happened in 1977.
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