In a commune, a producer produces enough to go around mainly to benefit those who it is given to; producing too much or too little can be wasteful, but surpluses and shortfalls only impact the producer if it is in significant enough quantities or quality to impact the commune as a whole.
In a commune, any innovation or improvements are done only to provide an increased benefit for others, increasing one's productivity only creates opportunity to assist in producing more for others. Few people have the motivation to keep innovating and increasing their own workload consistantly over time solely for the benefit of others.


In GG, a producer produces enough to go around as a medium of trade. Producing more than is useful is waste, as unless it is a commodity or storable good, the resources and time spent producing is a waste. Producing too little is at least waste of one's own time even if higher exchange rates can be had through scarcity.
Innovation and improvement in GG are a driving force, as they directly impact the increased value of at least one's time, if not quality and therefore value of traceable goods.

Additionally;
A Commune is generally formed from a group of like minded people who mainly desire to help each other all the time.

A Galt's Gulch is formed of people who both desire to produce and have the products of their produce valued.

Contradictions cannot exist...

Galt's Gulch would remain, while the Commune would disappear, before long.

What a silly question.

By definition, they are there - in essence - as collectivists; to share with each other, not to be independent beings. Why would a GG-type person ever consider a commune?

A good question, as a gut-check. Both are communities built toward achieving a goal. I think both would assume a level of protection for the common good.
The fork is at the goal. Does each person sublimate to the whole or does each derive their own worth and joy and trade value for value? Disclaimer that I've never lived in either (probably few of us here have.)
As an adjunct, what of artist colonies? Or Taliesin (Frank Lloyd Wright's community/school/cult)? The line isn't always so black and white...

tsk. assumptions!
I think we CAN say that the men in GG are rational, independent and productive; there may also be some in the commune who are such. Hopefully, not for long.

Spot on. That is as correct and simple as it gets.
Hillary loves the communes in the Northwest US, where common space is shared, parenting is shared, the individual or "I" does not exist. Truly, a commune would reflect the way the residents in "Anthem" were treated. Someone always rules at some point, but the mindless participants never notice.

Communes are usually built upon mystical beliefs. Not gonna happen.
Each individual is responsible for his/her own well-being.
No free lunches.

Good grief! How can anybody ask?!
In a commune (as I understand it; I have never lived in one, nor wanted to) things are di
vided up onto equal shares, regardless of how
much effort any particular individuals have put
into producing what is needed.
In the Galt's Gulch of Atlas Shrugged, in-
dividuals support themselves, individually, and
even when someone loans someone else his
car, by custom there is at least a nominal
charge. There is an exchange of effort, not one
incompetent sucking off other competent people.

Commune: From each according to his ability. To each according to his need.
GG: From each according to his need. To each according to his ability.

One stems from rational self interest, the other uses a herd mentality, in which your efforts belong to everyone else.

Can't argue with that.

Midgard is "middle" plus "yard or enclosure" ('farm').

Asgard is "Aesir" (god - goes back to 'ahura' in PIE) plus "yard or enclosure".

The other seven worlds of Norse mythology all end in "heim" (home); only Asgard and Midgard are considered enclosures or farms. Hmmm.

Jan

Fascinating. What was the full name of the place? I can get the [---]Kommunegaard from what you said, but I am curious to know what is in the [---].

Jan

Thank you, I love learning these kinds of tidbits. To me they make life incredibly interesting.

Regarding "gaard/gard" meaning farm, what's the translation for Midgard, which was what the Norse mythological word for the realm of Earth.

one's a shout of acclamation and the other is
a whimper of condescension. -- j
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Obviously the commune. Objectivists are too damned sexy to think otherwise!

We are not communists.

Just to footnote your footnote like rabbis copying a Torah, in Switzerland, any village is called a "commune" and communes make up a canton.

Also, in Italy, there is a commune "Marotta" a small village for tourists.
Wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marotta...