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What if Bernie Sanders Wins?

Posted by awebb 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Recent polls have shown that Bernie Sanders is actually leading over Hillary Clinton (source: http://bit.ly/1n5PTtB).

Since a real Galt's Gulch doesn't exist for us to retreat to, I'm curious... if Bernie Sanders wins the White House, what are you going to do?


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Two divisions with older and wealthier tend more to the Republicans or even beyond some are die hard Constitutionalists.. The younger and less affluent tend to veer to the Socialist Democrats.

    Same type of division in the black or african american or whatever today. Older and more religious tend to the Republicans or even the independents while younger with no religion to the left. Same with financial position. the moochers by day and looters by night group if they even participate and I'm told sell votes by the gangload tend to the Democrats.

    Two groups notably absent south of the border are Islamics and Blacks. Most the former are converts and most of the latter are immigrants from Africa near as I can make out..

    the reason for the party affiliation has to do with the idiotic Republicans turning their back on the blacks in the late 1800s and FDR roping them in in the 1920s 1930s. Didn't do much for them and still dont't. S

    So CLinton was the first Black President and Obama they first half black President which doesn't validate them as a group as one was a white bread and the other a failure. So they still need to elect a Black President or stay marginal.

    As I recall no one from the Jewish culture of raith has sat in the Oval Office. No women and it looks like that will be true four years from now. Who knows we may end up with a First Lady after all if WwotL gets the nod. Strange stories abound
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Although most of the early socialist leaders, and many of the followers, were in fact Jewish, it seems to me that most of the European Jews have to some degree been cured of socialism since. American Jews, on the other hand, seem to have some defect in their genes, as a great predominance of them is socialist through every cell of their bodies. They seem totally incurable. That does not include all, as some have somehow became immune to the disease, including those belonging to the Second Amendment Foundation and TTAG, but for the most part - it's a genetic defect.
    Full disclosure - I was cured, by an unknown force, after the age of 20; perhaps I simply grew up.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny thing but not so funny. Many of the early socialist chief among them Marx, Engels, Trotsky and reportedly Lenin himself were Jewish fully or partly so (by ancestral lineage or by cultural preference) Jews became their primary targets for final solution elimination. Many Democrats are of the same socialist heritage compromising most of US Jewery. Their is something as twisted there as is twisted in the ranks of Islamic fundamental jihadists. I know some of the story. and in a truly convoluted twisted way it makes weird sense. But I can't help thinking of them and one other group of adherents as Lemmings awaiting their marching orders. The one valid excuse is their was politically no where else to go. But then seeing the Republicans as right wing of the left types makes even more sense in a weird twisted way. So....we have secular Progressives why not have the Lemming Faction. Bernie has already spoken of re-education centers along with that California twit for brains if I remember correctly.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "the president is not a king" - really? America is an Empire run by an oligarchy with the "president" living like a king and wielding more power than any king alive (and dead, for the most part).
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The American Experiment has ended at least several decades ago. At the risk of being abrupt, are you just now contemplating that possibility? Ever since people, en mass, began coming to America in order to receive welfare instead of working, the experiment ended.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stalin and Mao were incredibly creative in devising ways for the slaves, I meant citizens, to voluntarily surrender everything that they had and everything that their neighbors had...
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago
    I already took precautionary measures - the business that we have been running for eight years is now closed. We had enough. There's no point waiting 'till it gets worse. Will concentrate on the government's teat - less work, more cream and, the way I see it - better in the long run - the sooner the system collapses, the better!
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think that Bernie's approach to the 2nd Amendment, or any other part of the Constitution (or what's left of it) will be any different than Hilary's. "Democratic" socialist or a Fascist socialist is all exactly the same. Once a socialist gains and consolidates power, the result will always be the same. I would not be surprised if Bernie brings back some of the same methods that demised some of his relatives only a half century ago. It won't matter - once a socialist is in power, he firmly believes that he is better than others and that he is immune to demise, as did his predecessors. Humans are such a funny lot!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Would they let her in the quadriennial games? That is called the Reagan Door and it was slammed shut after his administration. I can't imagine anyone but a dyed in the wool socalist left winger being allowed to become a candidate including Trump and especially including Rand and Cruz. I'm hoping one of the 50 States Attorney Generals who have direct head of the line access to the Supreme Court will file a request for a SCOTUS decision on his legitimacy. The obvious complaint is all those citizens who have been denied the right to run for President for 240 years. I'm one of them wondering if I have a case for a class action law suit? The pain, suffering and anguish for all these years ought to be worth some thing

    I picked the State AG route as they are traditionally the only ones with that privilege..And to compensate I want an amount equal to the last Power Ball WITHOUT deductions, penalties or taxes. So let's say 20% for the lawyers involved and make it a Two Billion dollar total.

    After all it's only money and the government can, as always, just write a check or issue one T BIll.

    Altruistic? Giving Back. Not one pre 1933 dime.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Over 18 trillion585 billion and climbing faster than you can snap shot and heading to 21 trillion by 2020.I'll still have about ten good years and ten shit years to live which means head to Oregon and see how much that pill costs. No sense living in a shitty diaper for five hopeless bedsore years of near insanity.. I'm of the opinion that keeping people alive at that point and especially against their cognizant wishes is a Major Cruel but not unfortunate punishment and I wish it upon those who force it upon the rest of us. I'm thinking of writing a story on surrogate avengers who fill in for those unable to pull a trigger in those years but are able to attend their trial in a mobile hospital bed. Might open up a whole new line of employment.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All left wingers yearn for an elitist separate class system of leaders with one paternal father figure. The myth of the nurturing mother is urban and nothing more. It's not a breast they wish to suckle.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the 'don't you wish you were rich enough to be a liberal' set?? Along with Rosie, Whoopsie, Barbra, Madonna, Penn, Michael Muckraker and Loonie Clooney?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why not they've done fine so far. It will either be a left wing of the left socialist from the former Democrat Party or a right wing of the left socialist from the former Republican Party and they will get, combined 95 plus percent of the vote - just like always. I don't see any other form of candidate being allowed in the quadrennial games and street theater production. Not only that you can't name one or even think of one without naming a National or International path socialist.
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  • Posted by stargeezer 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BO has nearly doubled the national debt in 7 years. I doubt anybody except us will notice anymore.

    Seriously, if the money had been spent on infrastructure I might not have minded so much, but as near as I can determine, the money was all wasted on welfare bonuses (cell phones and such), environmental companies that could never raise funding any other way, and that turned belly up when the pork ran out. And as far as I could determine every interstate passing through Chicago has been rebuilt - while the interstate highways leading into the city are barely passable. Of course he took care of his buddies at GE with contracts for millions of those butt ugly windmills that are trashing out the beauty of our countryside. But who cares, right? Nobody lives there except a few farmers and some neanderthals clinging to their guns and bibles. gerrrrr! Liberals love the environment, but when one of their own says that a particular "exception" is to be made, that's just fine. It's not like they are lumber jacks or fishermen.
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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hard to see any way to turn it around - most of history seems to point to continual failure. Best practical hope might be delaying the decline - maybe during that period a Margaret Thatcher type will gain some traction somehow.
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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True - but only as long as our Congress continues its' spineless approach to the executive branch
    (perhaps a 50 year+ trend so your comments should probably be heeded )

    It is a shame the voters and congress have turned our President into an Emperor. Next they will want a Royal Family (I guess we already have a couple of those - Bush / Clinton).
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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree - except even if Bernie wins the nomination AND gets elected I see no big change coming. Dems and Reps are both racing toward socialism, even if they put lipstick on it.

    Also - the only reason the executive branch has anywhere near the power it does is because our spineless congress gives it to them. There is no reason the person at the bully pulpit should be very significant. Given that he/she is - then wearing a socialism arm band may be a good wake up call for a few of the voters in this country that still think.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If Sanders wins, how much of his agenda will he be able to get through Congress?
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think Bernie WILL force the democrats to nominate him by the sheer force of the primary elections.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are wrong. Donald Trump WILL win. The country needs someone who speaks his mind and knows how to run business. People internally know thats what we need, and he is the ONLY electable one who can do that
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At least Sanders is honest about being a socialist. That tells us what to expect at least a year in advance. There is a LOT of wealth to spend here, and it will take awhile for Sanders and crew to get it all. The smart people will hide their assets over the next year and move into "portable wealth".
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If he and Trump both win their respective party nominations, Trump would crush him in a general election.
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