What the Gulch is... and what it isn't.
We have a few members leaving the Gulch today. Their reasons are theirs, but suffice it to say the Gulch is no longer meeting their needs. They arrived of their own freewill. They stayed of their own freewill. And now, they will leave of their own freewill. With 20,000+ members, the Gulch continues to grow daily and, as with any growing community, we will suffer growing pains from time to time.
We thank them for their significant contributions to the Gulch.
For those of you remaining in the Gulch, we want you to know that we are listening to you, you are a priority, and we will continue to take strides daily to make your Gulch experience the very best it can be.
Who we are... and who we're not:
1. We are advocates of Ayn Rand's ideas.
2. Our mission is to propagate those ideas.
3. Although Politics is a hot topic in the Gulch, we are not a political organization. The Gulch supports no particular political party.
What the Gulch is... and what it isn't:
1. The Gulch is a "net" which looks to catch the curious, the familiar, the like-minded, and even... the occasional enemy (of reason).
2. Once snared in the net, the goal is to start a conversation, to prod, to push, and to educate - all in the hopes of illuminating.
3. The Gulch is not an "Objectivists Only" forum.
As you'll see in the attached Venn diagram, there are different sections of the Gulch:
1. The Public Gulch forum ( http://www.GaltsGulchOnline.com ) - This is where all the intense debate happens. Everything from religion, to politics, to ethics and morality, are discussed and debated vigorously.
2. The Producer's Lounge ( http://www.GaltsGulchOnline.com/g/produc... ) - This is where we (advocates of Ayn Rand's ideas) go to seek refuge. This is a private section of the Gulch intended to be a place with little debate - a place for the like-minded to relax and enjoy each other's company.
Again, it is our sincere hope that your experience in the Gulch is an enjoyable one and we will continue to work every day to make the Gulch great. It's going to be intense. People are going to disagree... vehemently. People are going to argue... passionately. People are going to contradict themselves... with certainty. And, we're going to propagate Ayn Rand's ideas.
Oh... and Zombies. Look out for the Zombies.
Thank you for being part of Galt's Gulch Online,
Scott DeSapio
Associate Producer, Atlas Shrugged Part 3
CIO, Atlas Distribution Company
Chief Admin, Galt's Gulch Online
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"Speak on any scale open to you, large or small— to your friends, your associates, your professional organizations, or any legitimate public forum. You can never tell when your words will reach the right mind at the right time. You will see no immediate results—but it is of such activities that public opinion is made."
- Ayn Rand
Philosophy: Who needs it? "What can one do?"
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P.S. Those members that will be leaving the Gulch may join in the resulting conversation on this post. Please be patient and give them the latitude they deserve. Their concerns are valid and should be heard - regardless of how they choose to deliver their message. If they choose to return, they will always be welcome in the Gulch.
We thank them for their significant contributions to the Gulch.
For those of you remaining in the Gulch, we want you to know that we are listening to you, you are a priority, and we will continue to take strides daily to make your Gulch experience the very best it can be.
Who we are... and who we're not:
1. We are advocates of Ayn Rand's ideas.
2. Our mission is to propagate those ideas.
3. Although Politics is a hot topic in the Gulch, we are not a political organization. The Gulch supports no particular political party.
What the Gulch is... and what it isn't:
1. The Gulch is a "net" which looks to catch the curious, the familiar, the like-minded, and even... the occasional enemy (of reason).
2. Once snared in the net, the goal is to start a conversation, to prod, to push, and to educate - all in the hopes of illuminating.
3. The Gulch is not an "Objectivists Only" forum.
As you'll see in the attached Venn diagram, there are different sections of the Gulch:
1. The Public Gulch forum ( http://www.GaltsGulchOnline.com ) - This is where all the intense debate happens. Everything from religion, to politics, to ethics and morality, are discussed and debated vigorously.
2. The Producer's Lounge ( http://www.GaltsGulchOnline.com/g/produc... ) - This is where we (advocates of Ayn Rand's ideas) go to seek refuge. This is a private section of the Gulch intended to be a place with little debate - a place for the like-minded to relax and enjoy each other's company.
Again, it is our sincere hope that your experience in the Gulch is an enjoyable one and we will continue to work every day to make the Gulch great. It's going to be intense. People are going to disagree... vehemently. People are going to argue... passionately. People are going to contradict themselves... with certainty. And, we're going to propagate Ayn Rand's ideas.
Oh... and Zombies. Look out for the Zombies.
Thank you for being part of Galt's Gulch Online,
Scott DeSapio
Associate Producer, Atlas Shrugged Part 3
CIO, Atlas Distribution Company
Chief Admin, Galt's Gulch Online
- - - - -
"Speak on any scale open to you, large or small— to your friends, your associates, your professional organizations, or any legitimate public forum. You can never tell when your words will reach the right mind at the right time. You will see no immediate results—but it is of such activities that public opinion is made."
- Ayn Rand
Philosophy: Who needs it? "What can one do?"
- - - - -
P.S. Those members that will be leaving the Gulch may join in the resulting conversation on this post. Please be patient and give them the latitude they deserve. Their concerns are valid and should be heard - regardless of how they choose to deliver their message. If they choose to return, they will always be welcome in the Gulch.
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If I vote for Hillary this year it will be because the other candidates are simply Hillary light, and I will help push this car right off the cliff so it can be reset. And the sooner the better.
Wetnurse what not doing that.
To anyone else considering leaving the Gulch.
In my opinon, leaving plays into the hand of the enemy. If we show weakness, the enemy wins.
Stay here and stick to your guns. I may disagree with you on some things, but I value your rational arguments and your willingness to share your wisdom.
But act like you believe them and you'll be a successful politician or attorney.
There was another recent PM in which the admin were invited to attend. Several producers were upset over comments made in that PM-the upshot being you could play nicer. that's my take. After months of frustration and alerting of the admin, it came to stalemate. Comments such as this one from Scott do not show the support these fine producers deserve:
"P.S. Those members that will be leaving the Gulch may join in the resulting conversation on this post. Please be patient and give them the latitude they deserve. Their concerns are valid and should be heard - regardless of how they choose to deliver their message."
I agree with Scott that we'll go through "growing pains" and the site will carry on and create great content and many friendships will be made. But right now I'm just bruised and hurting over this.
We have the world to win, h
I would hope that you would not abandon the ship. I believe with Khalling: I will not leave. I will stand my ground. I will have to be required to leave.
Yes, there is a time that comes when you have tried everything and you know that's it. Hank stayed and persisted, he fought and then, he too
left accompanied by one of the "original" Gulchers- d'Anconia. Cannot someone here in our Gulch speak the reasons that would convince all of you to stay?
Sdesapio, has presented some valuable points. I cannot help but think of the young man that had been put in charge of Rearden Steel by the moochers. Hank had a name for him, other than "kid", something like "Mr. No Decision" (memory lapse). If you remember his evolution, while spying on Hank, you saw his slow and torturous self-realization. He did learn and he honored Hank with finally making his own decision which he gave his life for to try to save the person he loved- Hank. A most poignant and enlightening Rand character. Maybe we should let "cg" find his own way. It might take time. He might never find it. Yes, it is frustrating, it causes confusion and screams out- "What are you doing here?"
It is true, however, that this Gulch should represent/contain individuals that 'know' where they are, that have taken the 'oath' and that exchange 'value for value'. It is extremely frustrating to have someone land in the Gulch that has to be "babysitted" in hopes they will come full circle and find themselves. How to resolve this issue... a site for new members where they are vetted and verified first before being invited to the Gulch?
PLEASE STAY IN THE BATTLE!
BE FIERCE!!
I thank you for your conversations,
insightful and unique. I want you to
know that I learned from you.
Sincerely my thanks,
JC
As you know, I am a near newbie here. So, my opinion may not be fully justifiable.
Based on some of the debates I have had with "CG", it is my considered and deeply held opinion that "CG" does not belong here.
I think that he is deliberately towing the line of your integrity and benevolence so that he can be as disruptive as you might allow him. It is an evil approach, taking advantage of natural imperfections of life.
Just my opinion.
Thank you for all the stimulating conversations.
JC
Jan
It is beyond my comprehension how someone who hangs in the Gulch can actually do that.
But I'm just an old dino.
Just recently I was reminded of that 1970’s historical party. I went to my attorney / business partner with a well thought out legal position. Part way through my theoretical justifications I observed him in pantomime masturbation or elsewise stated… He was doing the crazy hand jive motion with his hand. He then told me, “George, it is important in life not to believe your own lies.” And ‘that’ reminded me of my first and last Aynn Rand social gathering.
Roark to Toohey in Fountainhead: "But, I don't think of you."
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