quite right. our children are born into slavery.The chains snap around their ankles before they leave the hospital with their essential SS number.

Seems to me that existence in the US in the present time would be as a slave. One cannot speak, for fear of becoming the target of the progressive media slander machine. One cannot outright own their home and property, due to property taxes. One cannot let their children walk home from a park without the police and child protective services inserting themselves between the parent(s) and child(ren). Sounds like slavery to me..

the point isn't religion vs non-religion, although you can make it if you want. The point is divisiveness. Alienate one group from another. Keeps everyone pissed off. Obama's goal was to insult one group of people which elevates another group of people. create the tension and infighting. Toohey

I do not consider them slaves, the welfare cultures, slaves are forced, these people choose to continue accepting handouts. They are sheep amidst the wolves. And the wolves are dressed in farmers clothing. They could change it if they quit cashing those checks and built a better, more functional society. But why do that when they can cheat the system?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Unlike Islam, Christianity has made a bit of progress in the last one thousand years or so. The jihadists justify their actions by the holiness of the barbarism of a time when barbarism was the norm. For Obama to compare and justify the actions of the religion-that-is-not-to-be-named to the actions of other religions is ludicrous, and disgraceful.

At this point, I am glad that there is no possibility of me being in his presence because I would shout such invective at him until the Secret Service hauled me away. I'm also glad I wasn't watching TV when he spoke this stuff as I probably would have thrown something at the TV and I just bought a new one.

And the stench is starting to overwhelm!

Slavery exists now and likely has existed as long as man collected in groups.

That said however, slavery as a socially accepted institution was ended in the US a long time ago.

Americans are no longer permitted to own other humans. An individual's status as involuntary chattel is the primary fact of being a slave.

Slavery exists now and likely has existed as long as man collected in groups.

That said however, slavery as a socially accepted institution was ended in the US a long time ago.

Americans are no longer permitted to own other humans. An individual's status as involuntary chattel is the primary fact of being a slave.

I thank you mdk!

When were the Crusades and how many were there? Four, five? What was the purpose of the Crusades? Are terrible deeds being committed these day in the name of Christ? How many and where? The U.S. has been fighting, in one way or another, Islamic crazies since President Jefferson.

On the other hand, for the past over 1500 years, and to this day, Islam has been, actively committing "terrible deeds", conquering and at war with the entire world.

Finally, our "christian president" doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between "terrible deeds" committed by earthly men and what Christ actually said. He has no problem defending Islam, when in fact the Koran is filled with violent instructions against infidels and people of the book (Jews and Christians).

Her. ;-)
And I thank you!

History Lesson for our woefully inept POTUS:

Muslims were not innocent during the crusades. Even today many of them have not changed and remain stuck in the distant past.

Partial Timeline:
719: Muslims attack Septimania in southern France (so named because it was the base of operations for Rome’s Seventh Legion) and become established in the region known as Languedoc, made famous several hundred years later as the center of the Cathar heresy.
July 09, 721: A Muslim army under the command of Al-Semah and that had crossed the Pyrenees is defeated by the Franks near Toulouse. Al-Semah is killed and his remaining forces, which had previously conquered Narbonne, are forced back across the Pyrenees into Spain.
722: Battle of Covadonga: Pelayo, (690-737) Visigoth noble who had been elected the first King of Asturias (718-737), defeats a Muslim army at Alcama near Covadonga. This is generally regarded as the first real Christian victory over the Muslims in the Reconquista.
724: Hisham becomes the 10th caliph of the Umayyad Dynasty. It is under Hisham that Muslim forces make their deepest incursions into Western Europe before being stopped by Charles Martel at the Battle of Poitiers in 0732.
724: Under the command of Ambissa, Emir of Andalusia, Muslim forces raid southern France and capture the cities of Carcassone and Nimes.
732: the Battle of Tours
ETC., ETC.
The Crusades were a long overdue retaliation against aggressors. The first crusade didn't start till 1096-1099. They ended in 1291.
Many Christians even then had no idea what was going on, yet today’s Christians should be held collectively responsible for the Crusades and the Spanish inquisition?!?!? Today’s Christians did not live during these times and since then there was the reformation (16th century) which collectively ended these practices. Is the POTUS responsible and apologetic for the African slave traders that sold many of their brethren to the Europeans? This practice is still ongoing in the 21st century…

Whatever you think of religion generally, this is a pathetic attempt to distract, equivocate and preach tolerance to a sect that long ago adopted passivity (turn the other cheek) practices and whose modern adherents need no admonition or instruction on this matter. In this regard, there is no equivalence to today’s Christians and the radical Islamists.

Our POTUS has once again shown his ignorance or an inclination to distort and insult and yet I predict nothing of substance will come of it. He will learn nothing from this or change his perspective. Considering that approx. 70% of Americans consider themselves Christians it seems an astounding political fumble…

Respectfully,
O.A.

I am sorry but I must disagree with the statement you made here Technocracy. Anyone who believes slavery has ended is merely uninformed. The slave trade has simply moved underground. And since it no longer shows gender or racial bias, it is rarely presented for publication in mainstream media because it is not going to help anyside to move above the argument of another. However, though it won't shift political power it is still a very real problem worldwide. Where do you think people go when they are never seen again? In some cases, yes they are John Galt unseen but still present, but in some cases they are locked in a room, chained, and many times never to return. It is a sad truth.

Your assignment of the label slavery does not equate to a fact, merely an opinion

Economic definitions do not realistically apply to a government agency.

If real world economics did, Government and its agencies would have to function far differently than they do. Since they ensure their own funding by sovereign force, they don't worry about economics to any great extent beyond departmental/agency budgeting. And that honored as much in the breach as in the keeping.

Slavery is involuntary servitude/ownership.

The key bit is INVOLUNTARY

OK, you're on. Consider this reply a handshake if you like.

I will concede a small difference without distinction. Under British common law, an individual could indenture his services to another for a fixed period of time. And slaves who could buy their freedom do not fit the "standard" definition of slavery. But, here in the Gulch, I would think all would agree with me; the lack of self-ownership is slavery in a workable economic definition!

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