Agreed!

Excellent analogy there! So very true. People divided are easier to quell than a unified populace.

Unearned guilt. He thinks that the populace can be controlled by applying a false sense of guilt to our very beings. It isn't working any longer.

I learned all that IN public school back in the 1970's 5th - 8th grades for me.

I was FORCED by my 5th grade teacher to memorize the Preamble to the constitution, and summarize the 1st and second amendments which to this day I have not forgotten and can recite at will.

The one thing of consequence I want to hear from him is

"I resign"

Oh my god, I agree with Robbie.

here's one online:::

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?...

-- j

THAT should taught in school!!

"Faith is the worst curse of mankind, as the exact antithesis and enemy of thought."

... and what if he had quoted Ayn Rand?

Me too. Love the ammo wagering. :)

"But I really want to watch."
It must be confusing if you believe in joining gangs and conforming to their orthodoxy so you can enjoy belittling others outside the group. It reminds me of Peter's mom's confusion at Roark's behavior.

Oh! This is superb! I am voting everybody up!

Jan

Interesting point on conscription. I was in the USAF - voluntarily - but no one I know in the Armed Forces (even if conscripted or sundownered) considered themselves a slave.

Hmmm. The existence of conscientious objectors has to be taken into account. There were no 'conscientious objectors' to slavery.

Jan

And I am tired of the fact that people overlook the black slave owners of the South. When given the opportunity, at least some blacks of the 19th century thought it just fine to own slaves.

It is to the credit of the US that we thought the abolition of slavery so important we were willing to fight the most life-expensive war we have ever been in to abolish it.

Jan
(Who notes no war was fought to free women...)

not shallow, Nma, treacherous!!! -- j

You're saying (I'm guessing) President Obama's support for democracy, not for secular democratic republics, allowed religious extremists dictators to come to power. He should have worked with dictators who were keeping their finger in the dyke against religious extremists.

people make mistakes, and there are corrections;;;
those were then, and these are now. -- j

You got more points than my post did. Happy birthday!

Ba da bum!!

Yes.

Yes. And today the terrorist Muslim sub-culture is an evil that is being slammed headfirst into all of the other peaceful cultures of the world, even the ones who are trying not to take sides - ie Japan.

Jan

Not accurate. The Muslims were expanding into other already-Muslim territory that was far from Europe - into various regions of the ME. Of the following crusades, the Holy Land Crusades, the Albigensian Crusade, the Aragonese Crusade, the Reconquista, and the Northern Crusades, the only ones fought against Muslims were the Hold Land Crusades and the Reconquista (which is something of a retroactive crusade - was not considered as such at the time it occurred). The Albigensian Crusade was fought against Christians, as was the Aragonese Crusade. The Northern Crusades were fought to exterminate the remaining pagans in the Baltic states. (Talk about religious suppression!)

The European Crusades had to travel from Europe to the ME to fight. In order to fight in the Holy Land Crusades (liberate the Holy Land), crusaders from Central Europe had to travel 2000-3000 miles away from home to try to kill Arabs. I count this as a war of aggression.

The good thing about the Holy Land Crusades is that the culture the crusaders brought back from contact with the literate and sophisticated Arabs effectively put a kibosh on the Middle Ages in Europe and were pivotal in introducing the Renaissance.

Jan

I would disagree with your statement that we are all slaves. Please correct me if I am wrong; but suicide is not a crime in any state, the crime is attempted suicide if one survives the attempt. I freely admit our government is too intrusive, but a huge number of economic transactions continue to occur without government's knowledge. You are correct about medical licensing but that is supposedly not about government approval; it is an economic attempt to solve the problem of who is qualified so that a consumer can trust a licensed professional to be competent. Using the government-licensed professional does not make us slaves. The only purpose of government coercion is to either compel citizens to do what they would prefer not to do, or to prohibit them from doing what they prefer to do. There is no other reason for government's guns and badges.

Why start now?