(29) Geomagnetic Excursion Explained - Earth Enters Unknown as Magnetic Pole Continues Push Toward Russia - YouTube

Posted by $ nickursis 2 months, 1 week ago to Science
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This is a really good explanation of what is happening with the magnetic fields, and the Magnetic Field event that has been in progress for the last 100 years or so, and is speeding up. The implications are far worse for the earth, than the Global Warming fantasy, since this is actually real. Why? When the fields collapse, the magnetosphere disappears and the Earth is then exposed to deadly and dangerous levels of cosmic rays that are usually deflected. The resulting damage to DNA causes global mass extinctions as animals are unable to reproduce. It effects everything from animals to plants. If you look at the current map, you will also note that the current magnetic lines strongly resemble the flow of the jet stream, that causes the "deadly weather caused by climate change" effect (huge temperature swings, changing rain/snow patterns). This is possibly what someone has been trying tomanipulate as "climate change: because no one wants to "panic the masses". It doesn't take a phd to figure this stuff out, folks.

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  • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
    I think that the earth, being as large as it is, is relatively unaffected by man, as compared to its inherent characteristics.

    Therefore, I think that we are pretty much powerless to affect the earth, one way or the other, and in particular in OUR lifetimes (especially mine). Therefore, I ignore all the prognosticators on the climate change bandwagon who think that politics can have any measurable effect on what was going to happen anyway.

    If I am wrong, so be it and I will bear the consequences of my decision.
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    • Posted by lrshultis 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      With respect to climate, politicians can only cause a reduction in standards of living except for some of politicians who will get rich.
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      • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        Maybe the real goal of government control IS a reduction of standard of living for the masses with a large increase in standard of living for the elite in government.
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        • Posted by lrshultis 1 month, 3 weeks ago
          They are not intelligent enough to be cognizant of that. It is a collective activity which requires one to be disconnected from objective reality and go along with whomever is the most threatening about the future of their jobs.
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          • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
            No, I would say they are just intelligent enough to be able to persuade the group that their statements are real. Oregon is proof of that and Kalifornia. In the face of overwhelming evidence they are failures, the people keep them in power (unless you are willing to believe in the conspiracy theory of a deep state, and they have corrupted the election system to where they can never be voted out, which is my HO)....
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    • Posted by RevJay4 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      The "climate change" scientists would like us to believe that we can change the climate via more taxes to whoever the politicians are judged as worthy to take up the project. Most usually, themselves.
      Like you, I don't believe we can do much of anything to change how the earth works, and has since its inception, just go with the flow of it all.
      Also, I'm too old to get concerned with stuff I have no control over in the future.
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      • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        Absolutely. As an engineer I just don’t think the idea of man changing the earth makes a lot of sense. The size of the earth and the power of the sun are the big control elements
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 2 months, 1 week ago
    There must be a way to monetize this coming catastrophe.

    Are those crickets I hear?
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    • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
      You're too late, he's already on it. The clown in the video is in the "survival" business hawking his wares -- everything from magnetic disaster tee shirts to organic seeds from his "Oppenheimer Ranch Project".

      He even has a page at amazon. https://www.amazon.com/shop/oppenheim... At the end of his alt-science hysterical fear-mongering conspiracy/disaster video he promotes subscribing to his "channel" for more ad revenue.

      His "Oppenheimer Ranch Project" is an "off-grid" 50 acre high alpine wilderness tract that is an inholding in the mountains of the San Juan National Forest in southern Colorado. https://www.3canyons.org/contact He calls it "self-sustaining".

      "Self sustaining" means that you have an "opportunity" to "volunteer" to send money and go there to "join his team" doing manual labor to construct his "earthship" for he and his wife to live in surrounded by spectacular scenery -- "The setting and atmosphere is purely magical".

      He says that if you "want to share in our collective experience please let us know. We will have many short- and long-term volunteer opportunities available."

      "We intend to utilize all available public funding sources to further our mission, continue to grow sustainably, and benefit the community as a whole. We accept donations in all forms, including volunteer time, materials, and money" .

      "We certainly cannot do this alone. Won't you lend a hand?"

      "Even if you can't physically come to Colorado to help our dreams become reality you can certainly spread the word about this project. Let your friends and family know about what we are doing and why it's important. Share with those who may be able to contribute to this lifelong mission."

      https://www.3canyons.org/
      https://www.3canyons.org/about_us
      https://www.3canyons.org/donate

      "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." - Eric Hoffer. Except this was never a great cause. Every act of altruism has a beneficiary. This dramatically breathless alt-science fear mongering that appeals to gullible scientific illiterates is far beyond a racket.
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      • Posted by RevJay4 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        Your last paragraph explains why we get to listen to the Algores and Gretas ad nauseum.
        No basis in actual science, just weather observations gone bad and hyped to the maximun for profit of the few.
        Just sayin'.
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        Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
        Would the hit and run coward who is systematically 'downvoting' my posts care to try to refute any of this description of the background and motives of the of the "Oppenheimer Ranch Project" run by the alt-science video promoted here?
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        • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
          Another hit and run 'downvote' is not responsive. This is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum. There are a couple of cowardly jerks with emotional problems who clearly don't belong here.
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          • Posted by RevJay4 1 month, 3 weeks ago
            Looks like another "climate change" believer is at work here.
            You know they cannot have their pet theories questioned, especially since it has become their religion.
            Just sayin'.
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  • Posted by preimert1 2 months, 1 week ago
    Most air fields have a "compose rose" that is used to measure the deviation of a plane's magnetic compass readings from those shown on navigational maps. The plane is shifted around on the rose and the deviations recorded on a correction card for the navigator's use. I don't know if is still used much now in view of modern nav systems, but I'd to ask any currently active aviators out there if this has required more frequent updates to correction cards or if the compass rose become another relic of aviation history?
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    • Posted by bsmith51 2 months, 1 week ago
      The compass rose will always be important, since it shows the variations between true and magnetic headings. True is referenced to the physical poles; magnetic to the mag field
      If you want an interesting study, look up "grid navigation," used near the poles due to the rapid changes in magnetic headings. When we flew with grid navigation from McMurdo Station, Antarctica, to the geographic South Pole our compass, having been realigned to the grid, read very close to "north."
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      I think Diamond referenced that when he talks about the out of sequence update, instead of every 5 years (or was it 10), they did it halfway through because of the amount of error being introduced. The new maps are then used to update the magnetic compass offsets. I would think satellite data could almost do real time updates if needed, and stuff like GPS does not need it, even a gyro compass of sufficient quality would not need it.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 2 months, 1 week ago
    Other than more frequent updates to my GPS and compass card in my airplane, how is this important? Grid navigation near the equator? I don't think so, and even if so, so what?
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      No Magnetic field= No Van Allen Belts= No shield against cosmic radiation=DNA cooks=No viable reporduction. Not to mention huge increase in violent storms and rain due to increased cloud nucleation. Remember Noahs Ark? Maybe 12,000 years ago or so? Could be a connection?
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      • Posted by lrshultis 2 months, 1 week ago
        Considering the amount of activity seen in a cloud chamber, there are a lot of particles made by highly energetic cosmic rays made by the shielding atmosphere. There would be no "DNA cooks" only some possible extra mutations. Humans have been bombarded by radiation all during their existence without dying out.
        The main changes in weather at present are most likely due to the extra energy stored in the oceans from the recent solar maximum evaporating more water.
        I don't remember Noah's Ark and neither does anyone living today. The whole story does not have any physical basis.
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        • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
          Gamma Ray bursts are potential threats, and the magnetic field is a buffer for them, if small enough. No field no buffer. You get whatever arrives, even if small and weak. The general cosmic ray out of local space is sometimes hig, but solar wind, and CME material would have no buffer. If a CME like Carrington could wipe out today's tech WITH a magnetosphere, what would a small one do without?
          https://www.thoughtco.com/gamma-ray-b...

          "With the gamma-rays beamed directly at Earth, the radiation would destroy a significant portion of our atmosphere, specifically the ozone layer. The photons streaming from the burst would cause chemical reactions leading to photochemical smog. This would further deplete our protection from cosmic rays. Then there are the lethal doses of radiation that surface life would experience. The end result would be mass extinctions of most species of life on our planet."
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          • Posted by lrshultis 2 months, 1 week ago
            Gamma rays are electromagnetic radiation and need large masses to stop them. They are only affected by gravitation in a vacuum and traveling at the speed of light are hardly affected by the Earth's puny gravitational field. That mass for the Earth, before entering the surface, is the atmosphere. They will transmute some some of the atoms in the atmospheric gasses to isotopes.
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      • Posted by bsmith51 2 months, 1 week ago
        What drives the magnetic field, as it shifts, to simply go away? The earth has an iron core. What makes its magnetism disappear?
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          Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
          The earth's magnetism does not disappear. If you pulled the two prongs of a horseshoe magnet together the magnetic field would not disappear either. Magnet fields traverse closed paths.
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          • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
            If you remove power from an electric motor does it not stop? Does not the electric field driving it collapse? The magnetism itself does not go away, the earths magnetic field is slowly drifting and collapsing, whether it fits your world view or not. The whole way they know of pole reversals is because the residual magnetic signature remains. That was not the video. The video was the magnetic field is destabilizing and wandering, and when the poles are adjacent they will collapse.

            Even lamestream science agrees the field is weakening.

            https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...
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              Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
              The earth is not an electric motor. Geomagnetism is not caused by an external electric power source with current through coils and a switch to turn it off. It does not spontaneously disappear. Geomagnetism and associated electric fields go together as a single system, mostly inside the core of the earth. All magnetism is associated with moving electric charges either in macroscopic currents or inside atoms.

              Variations in geomagnetic fields are and have been well known for a very long time and not a cause for hysterical panic. Eventually, after billions of years, the sun and the rest of the solar system will die out. You are promoting an alt-science video fabricated by someone with no scientific credibility or objective explanation, breathlessly espousing his concocted conspiracy theories and predicting impending doom that NOAA scientists -- that the video calls the "the fraud of all frauds" -- are claimed to be "hiding" from us.

              It's not the first of this from your posts. There is a pattern. It shows that serious scientific understanding and the work required to obtain it is not what attracts you. Your own link to Scientific American does not support your sensationalism. You can believe whatever you want; this is not the place for such sensationalist nonsense and rejecting it is not "luddite".

              There is no such thing as "lamestream science", which terms means nothing more than an expression of conservative contempt for objective science while insisting that its emotional fantasies be respected as a substitute. Science is not just another "world view".
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      • Posted by bsmith51 2 months, 1 week ago
        So rather than shifting with the magnetic field, the Van Allen Belts would just go away? I find this hard to believe.
        Or maybe it's just time to party.
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          Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
          Of course it's hard to believe. The alt-science being dramatically promoted here has no credibility. Some gullible science iilliterates who post videos on their "channel" and those who follow them are attracted to sensationalist conspiracy.disaster mongering. Promoting it here is an embarrassment on what is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 1 week ago
    The other videos he produced also indicate that the more likely future is an ice age (hundreds of years long) and a drop in sea levels of 300 feet during the ice age. I assume this is due to greater amounts of ice existing on land.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      Yes, the Ice will lock up fresh water and some salt water depending on temperatures and Salinity, the majority is always fresh from compacting snow becoming Ice. Note that also will lower sea levels to where the megalithic site is off Iwo Jima?? Coincidence?
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      • Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 1 week ago
        (And the oceans will have higher salinity.)
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        • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
          Exactly, and it reaches a point where they are not cold enough to make sea ice, and then things will stagnate until the next warming cycle begins. The suns coordination with the magnetic belt is never really mentioned but I see a direct connection, and that there is a merge of what they call the "Plasma Universe" with the "Electric Universe".
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      Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
      And another of this clown's "science" videos has this:

      "Cosmic Climate Catastrophe - The Great Year - Sacred Geometry - Hidden History - Pt. 1

      "Oppenheimer Ranch Project

      "What we have been taught in school is far from the truth. What we are being told about the past is disseminated by the very entities that suppress the hidden history. The ancients were well aware of this ruse time immemorial. This is why they encoded the sacred geometry and cosmic information into their architecture. In this way, the information would not be lost and therefore preserved for those few who made it through the transitionary times.

      "Gobekli Tepe is a great example of our last great culture trying to secure a message for future humans to decipher. Burying hundreds of megalithic stone structures which clearly suggest a cosmic calendar system. Nonetheless, the stories we are told about such ancient cultures are how savage and inane they were. Nonsense.

      “'A cosmic tempo based on Sacred Geometry, encoded in myth & mystical architecture throughout the Earth governs the unfolding of world ages, the rise and fall of civilizations & is ultimately the very basis of apocalyptic prophecy' – Randall Carlson ...

      "Given what is now known about the nature of geological change over the course of multiple time scales it is not exaggeration to speak of actual, far-reaching destructions and the subsequent rebuilding of a new world. Nor is it unscientific to hypothesize those cataclysmic episodes may have left an imprint in the belief systems of archaic humanity, influencing mythology, religion and psychology to an extent under-appreciated until only recently."
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 months, 1 week ago
    I don't think I have time to watch the video right now, as the time I am allowed on this library computer is limited. The written statement is interesting. But if it does turn out to be true, the way to avoid the effect of the cosmic rays would probably be to manufacture and send up some kind of gas to serve as a protective shield.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      Liberty, not quite as easy, the magnetic field bends the cosmic raysaround (as in a shield) as well as CME material and what other discharges come from the Sun in the way of electron flux, and plasma. Gas may only diffuse but not deflect, hence, the poles moving and field weakening is a real issue. Much more so that any "climate change", and is probably linked into it.
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      • Posted by LibertyBelle 2 months ago
        Well, then, I don't know. Maybe some highly power-
        ful magnets to be used to counteract this. Of course, where to get them would be a problem. I guess we have not yet progressed enough to dig any up from any other planets.
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        • Posted by $ 2 months ago
          Nope, this is an issue beteen the Galactic electromagnetic field and the Earths much smaller one, with one being impacted by the other. That is why it is a 12,500 year cycle as we cross the plane every 25,000 years or so in Precession. You just have to survive it. A pole flip is not happening every cycle, there is this magnetic field anomaly that occurs. The ppoint is, this is a much bigger, real threat that climate change, and it may actually be a direct contributor to it. Just don't let your state hit you with the looter theft program called "Cap and trade" using the flimsy excuse of man made climate change to justify theft of billions each year by each state for ....who know what.
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      Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
      No one rationally has the time to take this video seriously. It takes only a few seconds of listening to his breathless doomsday sensationalism and conspiracy mongering to see that he is a crackpot with no scientific credibility. The more you look into his "project", the worse you see that it is.
      https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
      https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

      It is being promoted here by the same emotional promoters of the thoroughly debunked "Diehold Foundation". They are not a credible source of information on science. This is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum, not the National Enquirer.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 months, 1 week ago
    That darned Donald Trump has sold the north pole to the Russians....."Impeach!!!" :)
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    • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
      OOPS, it was Hillary who promised the donors to the Clinton Foundation that when president she would prevent all these disasters.
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 months, 1 week ago
        Even more reason to impeach the bad orange man Trump......We wouldn't be giving them the north pole....[We wouldn't need to, since we would be a client state under Hillary, they would own it by default!]
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        • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
          wait till the 'workers' own PG &E in california. WE can rename it Twentieth Century Gas and Electric
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          • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 months, 1 week ago
            You know....when you first read Atlas Shrugged and Animal Farm you say to yourself ..."a fantasy...it would never really happen that way". And then you see Venezuela and these hell holes in California and you realize that these people [Ayn Rand and George Orwell] that have suffered under the boot of communism actually know what they are talking about! You actually cant make this stuff up. Most of the other noise from the proponents of the left is made by vapid nit wits living in a fools paradise made safe and warm by the fruits of capitalism.
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          • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
            Excellent idea, and probably true, you may also have tapped into the new left method of taking over, insidious use of disasters, blame the companies into bankruptcy, then have a judge give it away...
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            • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
              maybe what the leftists' real goal is the gathering of power over people, and they use whatever they can to enable the power grab. Whether socialism provides for the people is not part of the plan- and in fact would hinder their plan if in fact people prospered under it.
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                Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                Their goal is the collectivism; the power seeking as the means is inherent in that. Don't overlook that they believe their own propaganda as part of their ideology.
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            • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
              They actually benefit psychologically from the current system of capitalism going down the tubes. I hadnt really thought of why the leftists promote disaster. Interesting and very evil.

              If they impeach Trump, they better send the tax collectors out with guns to collect taxes in the future.
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                Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                The tax collectors already have guns. The bulge under the coat is always there.

                The current system "going down the tubes" is not capitalism. It is a mixed statist system, part free and part controlled. The statism is destroying the system, not freedom and not capitalism. Capitalism has been blamed by both the left and the right since before Ayn Rand wrote about it.

                Of course the left promotes disaster and then cashes in on it. So do conservatives. As a recent illustration look at the fear mongering and conspiracy speculations by the leftist in the video promoted here -- by conservatives attracted to the doomsday sensationalism in the name of 'science'. The clown who produced the video for his "Oppenheimer Ranch Project" is a collectivist viro who believes his own propaganda for his "survivalist" racket. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 months, 1 week ago
    This is quite interesting, and maybe it's just the changing of the coherence level of the earths magnetic core, and how it's rotating...

    Very very interesting when I put it into perspective with what I am learning to understand about magnetism...
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 2 months, 1 week ago
    Let us hope that it is just an excursion this time and they will get close and then move back to whence they came...we can survive that but if the magnetic poles continue then all hell breaks loose.

    We will at some point cross the galactic magnetic sheet which is full of dust and debris which will cause our sun to eject all that debris in one Big Sneeze! That is what we are calling: a Micro Nova.

    Sadly, there is an upside although it won't mean much for a long time after. All the earths resources will be replenished and possibly new, never known resources will be deposited as well.

    PS...the magnetosphere is not weakening any more or less that it does every 12K years. His statement is correct if we only look at the last 12K years which defines our current civilization.
    What happened 12K years ago? our ancestors wrote about it. It was the biblical flood! Given that paradigm they lived in and their bicameral state of brain, thoughts, beliefs, culture and behaviors; one can now understand why they credited the event to an angry god...and...their behavior as described as the "end days of Noah" was likely the results of a lack of a conscious mind and the effects of extreme cosmic radiation on the brain and bodies of our ancestors.
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    • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
      It's best to ignore the alt science nonsense. The "Diehold Foundation" and the rest of them have been debunked many times here. They are crackpots.
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 2 months, 1 week ago
    Since magnetic poles repel one another, they can only approach each other by the application of outside force or the weakening of the internal magnetic environment. My guess is that we are, again, experiencing the weakening of the internal force. A weaker magnet means weaker force means reduced Van Allen Belt means less protection from the sun’s radiation. See Mars for the results of extended loss of this type of protective force. The Earth shouldn’t get as bad as Mars, but it will be a serious situation if extended for multiple generations.
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    • Posted by BCRinFremont 2 months, 1 week ago
      ....or something like that....
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      • Posted by BCRinFremont 2 months, 1 week ago
        Let the astro physicists rip my crappy grasp of magnetism to the shreds that it deserves...
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        • Posted by BCRinFremont 2 months, 1 week ago
          Opposite poles actually attract one another....
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          • Posted by BCRinFremont 2 months, 1 week ago
            ...so, the energy required to hold the opposite poles apart must be reducing? due to fluid dynamics of spinning molten iron? anybody?
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            • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
              In a sense, yes, the overall issue is the field is weakening, and the magnetosphere is shrinking, which is noted in solar minimums. That opens the poles to Cosmic Rays and Solar Wind energetic particles and fields which can enter the earth at both poles and charge the core, heating it up. Heating creates expansion and results in more volcanic and tectonics activity. While we have some luddites in the Gulch, it really i a serious issue and is unprecedented, and if the fields collapse your Mars statement is 100% ture. Without a magnetic field, the atmosphere can be slowly stripped away by Solar Wind, and Cosmic Rays, which get intercepted by the magnetosphere causing the aura borealis, reach the surface. That is a bad thing.
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 2 months, 1 week ago
                What happens to the overall magnetic field as N/S attractive magnets get closer and closer to each other?...seems to make sense that the overall field that surrounds these magnets gets smaller, therefore the overall effect of the field versus before the excursion should be weaker...and that is what they measured. At present, they claim the field is 20% weaker and getting weaker exponentially as both poles continue to move toward each other.
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                Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                The earth's magnetic field is not collapsing. Rejecting crackpot alt-science is not "luddite". This is no better than your previous promoting hysterical "science" videos claiming that the earth's rotation is about to reverse, and attempting to explain it by pronouncing that the "right hand rule" about a sign convention is a fundamental law of nature. You do not appear to have any first-hand understanding or knowledge of science.
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