I must live in a 'lollypop' world! Young and old are courteous, in their cars, opening doors (post office, grocery store), and stopping to give someone obviously in distress assistance. Our streets are a mess, the water is undrinkable, and the robot throws our trash containers in the street. But who cares? We voice our opinions twice monthly at City Council and School Board/College District meetings (and they do listen). A letter to the editor gets special attention.

I strongly disagree with this T2. Obedience is just a tiny part of the lessons learned from a father to a son.

Power went off at my house for half a day and we all say around our dead phones and inoperative TV sets for a few hours. But after that we all realized we were controlled by our electronics and we started to unwind from it

I think people would resume normal human activities in a short time after their toys were removed

U got taught to be obedient, that’s all.

Exactly ! Teaching to them is simply pounding certain things into the brains of the students. People already know how to learn. What this idiot was saying is that they were proud that the students simply accepted what they were taught

My two children recently received the Bachelors degrees from Arizona universities. The main speaker at my daughter (BS Biology, ASU) commencement, a big wig, gave his speak before the procession handing out the token degree's. I found it telling that he said the institutions greatest accomplishment was teaching its graduates how to learn. Yes, learn. Not to think creatively or how to analyze information to discern fact from fiction, meaningl from trivial, useful from rubbish, how to learn.

Reflecting on this, teaching someone how to learn simply means opening their brains to full it with whatever you choose so they can believe it and regurgitate it later. aka give man a fish...

(my son received his BS is Education and is working to certify as a teacher in Arizona)

The point I'm making and I'm not disagreeing with you, is that they only know how to think if they are taught, prodded, made to do so.

List pretty well sums up what started when outcome based ed swept the US, and before it Europe. Clinton's Gov's school for the gifted drove a wedge between parents and students, resulting in suicide. Early on Columbine began the there is no right or wrong deal. Psychotropic drugs were encouraged. Values clarification, and all listed in above list dacame part of revamping the child to fit one world order. Children were handed self esteem, but did not ern self respect they needed. Generations have now been fed an unreal picture of life in some dystopia, and crash when reality does not give them all they were told they deserved - not what they earned. Europe and US has created a society of unstable snowflakes, unable to cope, so they turn to substances to dull the pain. They should have been told, life is tough, get ready for it, you can deal with it.

I think it is on the individual when they become mature enough to assume such a responsibility. It is on parents and educators prior to that point.

Two sides of the same coin as it results in people who aren't capable of dealing with anything lying outside their expectations.

Back then me and my brother always thought of dad's scorn as fear and it sure did instill fear in us when we screwed up. Now as senior adults we both think of it as respect. Mother was never wrong simply because she was mother! We never tested dad for wrong or right simply because that would have been a losing battle for sure. He was a WW2 Navy Vet with a long fuse but very explosive if we lit it. My brother, 2 years older pushed a few buttons once and got a crash course on how to repair drywall. I can't honestly say cruel but certainly stern and right in our faces. We did however need it at a certain point and are better for it today.

Blarman, the fail to assume responsibility for ones life and one's doing is entirely on the individual, however it is taught by the educational system by telling children that other know whats best for them and that they should seek out assistance rather then try to resolve things themselves. My old article "The Bully box" is a perfect example.

The snowflakes minds aren't damaged. The State, via leftist leadership, has deliberately conditioned them to be fragile. This isn't a mental condition as its is a lack of mental and emotional conditioning.

My 2 bits.

No flames from me! Are we somehow brothers that got separated along the road? My dad was an ex-WWII-marine and your statement "By our early teens he never had to touch us again because "the LOOK" said it all" is sooooooo true! There was mutual respect and discipline without cruelty of any kind. My brothers and I were pretty much allowed to run wild in experiencing the world as long as we didn't bring harm or get into trouble. The woods, swamps, streams, and streets were our playground and we could use dads tools to learn how to build or repair almost anything we wanted as long as he didn't have to dip into his wallet to cover our screw ups. [Side note story: One time he really got mad was when I rescued an electric alarm clock out of somebody's trash and though I could fix it. After putting it back together I paid no mind to the crappy cord and when I plugged it in it showered sparks and caught mom's living room rug on fire and I heard "HEY BOY!!! WHAT THE HELL!! YOU TRYING TO BURN MY GOD DAMNED HOUSE DOWN!?" The fire didn't catch on but it wasn't a great day, either.]

Great list. #9 is far too often the wrong alternative to an appropriately timed and carefully applied boot in the ass, which would now land a child in foster care and a parent in prison - of course drugs would be immediately prescribed to the child to overcome the boot trauma and the parent would be required to attend sensitivity brain washing sessions for years.

And then...little Johnny gets his hands on a gun and makes himself a superstar on the MSM (apologies to those named John, out there).

2 words for procedures----Medical Tourism

They would blame it all on man-made climate change, or capitalism. That is their made up narrative.

That's how it was with my dad and I'm glad because it taught me to be more respectful and thoughtful knowing what would await. Discipline is helping someone to understand that the reason for rules is not to prevent you from doing something fun, but to keep you from facing the consequences for stupidity. Far too many children (and I include people who are physically adults but mentally children) in today's age expect to be able to do whatever they want and not face any consequences.

Nothing compared to when the sun goes micro nova and or the poles reverse...never mind a sun spot flair up.

I am sure to get flamed for this but I know what taught me and my brother while growing up was a swift slap from our father when we failed to follow the program. By our early teens he never had to touch us again because "the LOOK" said it all. I remember as a young boy these words, "Quit that crying or I'll give you something to cry about". Temper tantrums were quelled in the very early stages and sad to say but they had to be beat into both of us just so the message was delivered loud and clear. Today I have nephews and grands who could use a good flogging on a regular basis.

Lack of interaction? Take away their phones and most of them turn into blubbering idiots. I can only imagine what would happen were the power to go down for a couple of days - there would be mass hysteria!

Problem is that mental illness is being touted as normal.

PLUS:...lack of interaction with the environment and good nutrition.
Let'em eat Dirt...like we did.

The far left would scream that this list was made by someone unstraightophobic or such.

"factoid intolerance" - definitely one of the more prevalent diseases affecting Americans today!