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Geological support for the Umbrella Effect as a link between geomagnetic field and climate

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 9 months ago to Science
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Finally! lamestream climate science is considering major revisions in what changes our climate. Their even looking a natural Cycles!

Wow...now that's a quantum leap...one for the good, I might add.

They are still not willing to look to the sun quite yet as a main driver of climate.
What's interesting here is that we are going into a grand solar minimum much like the Maunder Minimum...a 400 year cycle; However, quite unusual, this time, we are seeing rapid magnetic pole wanderings far outside the usual meanderings which prompts everyone to wonder about a pole reversal...no worries here...seems our ancestors lived through this before but it is still very interesting to see these event/cycles come together at the same time.

Kudos to them for recognizing that cloud formation is dependent upon cosmic radiation and atmospheric ionization.

Welcome to the start of the Great Re-Awakening!

They still have a few more cycle trends to consider in the efforts toward any honest predictions. I've seen NASA and NOAA reports lately that predict an elongated or split cooling period on our horizon well past 2030.

See!...told ya it wasn't Your fault...laughing
SOURCE URL: http://www.nature.com/articles/srep40682


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  • Posted by ProfChuck 7 years, 9 months ago
    This article points out just how complex the biosphere and the hydrosphere are. My background is theoretical physics and I have taught relativistic physics and quantum dynamics. When compared to climate dynamics and the interactions between the Earth's magnetic field relativity and quantum physics is astonishingly simple. Analysis of climate dynamics and the attendant interactions involves thousands of nonlinear partial differential equations which horrify even the most adept mathematicians. Needless to say this complexity and intricacy makes modeling of the phenomena extraordinarily difficult. This provides at least a partial explanation for the failure of climate predictions of the past. Maybe someday quantum computer technology will be up to the task of dynamic climate modeling but not now.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 9 months ago
    I did not try to read the whole thing. Instead, I held up a finger in the breeze to test the winds. My finger says, "These folks see that it is not going to be possible to get continued funding for studying ever-increasing global warming. They are going to need something else."

    I think the fundamental gist of the paper is, "It's a complicated problem. More study is needed. Send money."
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  • Posted by skidance 7 years, 9 months ago
    Could you provide links to those NASA and NOAA reports?

    I've been aware for several years now that NASA has been predicting a solar minimum. It would be great to learn what the updates, if any, are.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
      Plain ole maximums and minimums are short term sun cycles but every 400 years we get a Grand Minimum where sunspots go weak in the knees at the sight of earth for 30 to 70 years. The Maunder lasted 70 years globally.

      You can find them at suspicious0bservers.org (that's a 0 not a capital O in observers).
      If you go to SO's youtube channel you go back in the daily reports and get a plethora of links to these reports.
      There are many...and it's funny, you'll also run into their pandering for the leftest articles as well saying just the opposite...I guess they are an equal "opper[lunity]" employer.

      Post script...see ADAPT 2030 on youtube as well. David will show you what's happening in real time and match it up through history.
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      • Posted by skidance 7 years, 9 months ago
        I'm familiar with adapt 2030. I would still like to see links to current NASA/NOAA studies predicting a grand solar minimum
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
          You go to the NASA site...they are a bit#h to find (they hide it from the left...laughing...there is a Lot of stuff there) or you can go to suspicious observers...on the main page below the daily video is a Sun Tutorial set of Vid's.

          There is a slue of resources at the bottom of the article. These guys just like all of us use the NASA satellites and measurements by NASA scientists.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 9 months ago
    Hi OUC,
    You lost me at this?
    For the Matuyama‒Brunhes geomagnetic reversal, four proxies are estimated13: natural remanent magnetization (NRM) intensity values demagnetized at 30 mT were normalized by anhysteretic remanent magnetization (ARM) demagnetized at 30 mT (NRM30mT/ARM30mT); NRM intensity values demagnetized at 30 and 50 mT were normalized by isothermal remanent magnetization (IRM) intensity values demagnetized at 30 mT and 50 mT, respectively (NRM30mT/IRM30mT and NRM50mT/IRM50mT); the difference between NRM intensity values demagnetized at 30 and 50 mT divided by the difference between IRM intensity values demagnetized at 30 and 50 mT (NRM30–50mT/IRM30–50mT). For the Lower Jaramillo reversal, NRM intensity values demagnetized at 50 mT were normalized by ARM demagnetized at 50 mT (NRM50mT/ARM50mT) were used instead of NRM30–50mT/IRM30–50mT; the other three proxies are the same14.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
      Yea...one can get lost in those weeds...means something to someone I'm sure but the overall article and it's premise is encouraging in the sense that they aren't blaming mankind for this natural process.
      Actually, it's pretty astoundingly mindblowing that they even "Considered" a "Natural" process!
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      • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 9 months ago
        Yes the sun and the clouds as well as the jet stream the eliptic, the mountains and oceans, space rays These are factors in the weather. Weather is not climate.The Global climate is
        what, an average of all the different climates that fluctuate.
        To describe in simple terms It supports life.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 9 months ago
          Correct...environment is just that, our immediate surroundings, weather is what happens every moment of every day and consistent weather patterns and trends over long periods of time is climate.
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  • Posted by Seer 7 years, 9 months ago
    But that was my theory, which I made public in 2014, on One Political Plaza. Well, for the most part.

    Perhaps mankind is capable of learning, after all.
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