Voices for Reason - ARI’s Yaron Brook discusses Dave Brat | The Ayn Rand Institute

Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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I haven't watched this yet, but I'm excited so I posted it first.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've yet to find anyone who is "pure." I disagree on his approach to drugs (actually Nancy had a better policy - just say "No" which was a cultural approach, not a legal one), but overall he was better than most, and we certainly haven't had any that equaled him since (nor any that have even sought the office that had a chance of winning).
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He was very in favor of the war on drugs. that is not liberty minded. But I agree in politics, there are movements in the right direction. Voting is important. BUt you do not have to vote for the lesser of two evils. It is absurd we have grown in to a two party system.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, from your statements I take it that you choose not to vote, or to vote for a "pure" candidate with absolutely no chance of winning, thus aiding the greater evil to win. I'm a pragmatist. I choose to slow the ship from sinking in hopes that we can find the means of plugging the leak and bailing out the ship. Making the hole bigger just so that we all perish that much sooner isn't in my character.

    The problem with AS, in my opinion, is that AR used the Gulch as a plot device. This causes many to think that such action is possible and is the solution, it is not. If we go down, it is going to be many decades, perhaps centuries before there will be a resurrection to anything close to what we had previously.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As do I. But I won't let "perfect" stand in the way of "as good as it's going to be for now."
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    I choose to try and wake people up... I won't choose a desperate dose of smaller poison.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, we didn't get enough of the others to vote the same. Thus, we end up with the most vile of evils instead of an evil that could be moved towards good. You need to choose.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A 180 degree turn is unrealistic. You can either choose suicide, or some deferred decimation that may lead to an acceptable path. Too often the pure have allowed the vile to ascend. Will you do so again in '14 and '16?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We're a fraction of a degree from going over the cliff right now, actually are feet are already dangling over the cliff... the only thing that will save us is a 180 degree turn. I won't vote for anything less, it's an unprincipled vote. Also, the other problem, besides weak politician choices, is the brain activity of the voters. How do we wake people up too see the cliff that their ass is sitting on the edge of. (bad grammar...I don't care.)
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because those men are quickly vanquished. If we had chosen Perot, rather than Bush, we would have been more on the way to our desired objective. But alas, that was too radical for the majority. A 30 deg turn is easier than a 180 deg turn. Part of the problem is those that insist on purity instead of pragmatism. Pragmatism might move towards the objective, while purity ensures movement away.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It will also take that much longer to WAKE PEOPLE UP. And a "half way" of evil (power) is still evil power. Plus you're way over surmising by saying "half way there"...it's just a slower boat to hell if we don't have real men at the helm. Why is it so damned difficult to find men with real integrity in America willing to take the lead?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, just rationality. Power that gets me half-way there is better than power that takes me away.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As Yaron says in the interview, such a stance is unelectable, at this time. I'm for a position espoused by David Brinkley - the most conservative (I would interject - libertarian) that can get elected. Reagan was far more liberty minded than most before, and all since, including economically.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He was for a "mixed capitalism economy"...Rand was vehemently against such. A 'good politician' would be one for laissez faire capitalism, among other principled ideals.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Makes me wonder what she would call a "good politician?"

    That clip is from '81, so still very early in his tenure as president. And since she passed in March '82, she would not have been able to judge the remainder of his actions.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Become the best President" happened later, after her death, when Ronnie managed to do what AR said was the appropriate way to deal with the USSR: "Stop supporting it."
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As Snezzy said, she would have been familiar with him as an actor (she was in the movie business) and as California governor. The actor part probably overwhelmed her view as his legacy as governor was to reduce the welfare state, reduced regulation, and fighting against federal taxes. All items that AR would undoubtedly support.
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