Buying a private island?

Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago to The Gulch: General
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http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/o...

Peruse the above web site, and start voting on possible options.



After that, just for the hell of it, read this:

http://www.ask.com/wiki/New_Utopia

The New Utopia web site describes how a now deceased Ayn Rand fan suggested building a private island about equidistant between Honduras and the Cayman Islands on top of a submerged ridge. The ridge is about 20 meters deep. The AR fan suggested building on concrete blocks, but there are better ways. The great thing about this approach is that all islands in the world are claimed by some government. This is outside the territorial waters of any country, although technically in the economic zones of Honduras and the Cayman Islands.
SOURCE URL: http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/objects/r:caribbean/o:for-sale?v=grid&p=1


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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 11 months ago
    Hello jbrenner,
    I like the idea. Is there anywhere in international waters where this might be accomplished with less risk of a government making claim. A base on the moon might have better chance of retaining autonomy/sovereignty... If we could only re-invigorate the spirit of 76... the Liberty lost might be reacquired and respected where we are...
    Regards,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago
      Economic zones go for over 200 miles, 250 miles if I remember right. There is no potential island that would be outside any country's economic zone unless you count Antarctica. I'm not heading to Antarctica.
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 11 months ago
        Good morning jbrenner,

        Unfortunate. I wonder if there are any areas where the sea bed is shallow enough to build up and create an Island on in international waters. In the past when Oil rigs were permanent stationary structures I recall hearing about the abandoned ones being purchased by private concerns and they set up their own micro nations with their own laws... Some have contemplated building floating cities... possibilities...
        It may one day come down to colonies on Mars Like in Mr. Ashinoff's book Shadows Live Under Seashells...
        Regards,
        O.A.

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        • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago
          The place I recommend below referred to as New Utopia is about as close as we will find to "international waters", unless we could purchase an oil rig or build a floating city like Robbie forwarded "Atlantis found" this weekend.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago
    New Utopia is a fairly large swath that is about 20 meters deep.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Utopia

    Lazarus Long (deceased in 2012) operated a "Web site to promote the so-called micronation tax haven, which he claimed was to be constructed on concrete platforms at the Misteriosa Bank 115 miles west of the Cayman Islands.[5][6][7] ". I then looked up Misteriosa Bank and found

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misteriosa_......

    The Misteriosa Bank is a submerged bank or atoll in the Caribbean Sea, located at WikiMiniAtlas
    18°48′N 83°54′W / 18.800°N 83.900°W / 18.800; -83.900 – approximately equidistant from Mexico (380 km or 210 nmi), Honduras (345 km or 186 nmi) and Cuba (320 km or 170 nmi). The bank is 39 km (24 mi) long and 3 to 11 km (1.9 to 6.8 mi) wide. The area is 322 km2 (124 sq mi).[1] Immediately south of it is Rosario Bank. The closest piece of land is the Swan Islands, Honduras, 140 km (76 nmi) to the south and separated from it by the more than 5,000-metre-deep (16,000 ft) Cayman Trench. The reported depth is 20 metres (66 ft) on the average [5] or up to 22 metres (72 ft), with depths of 14–18 metres (46–59 ft) along the rim,[2] or 12.8–49 metres (42–161 ft) [6]. It is part of the Cayman Ridge.[3]

    A buoy has been anchored to the seabed of this submerged peak of a sea mountain range that appears to have been claimed by the Principality of New Utopia. The placing of the buoy was filmed by a German film crew and broadcast by Arte television on satellite.

    New Utopia maintains no state claims it, and wants to build a kind of micronation on top of it, using concrete blocks.

    Charles Darwin's Coral Reefs mentions the Misteriosa Bank as an example of the sharply declining coral reef:

    "Besides the coast-banks, there are many of various dimensions which stand quite isolated; these closely resemble each other, they lie from two or three to twenty or thirty fathoms [4 to 55 m] under water, and are composed of sand, sometimes firmly agglutinated, with little or no coral; their surfaces are smooth and nearly level, shelving only to the amount of a few fathoms, very gradually all round towards their edges, where they plunge abruptly into the unfathomable sea. This steep inclination of their sides, which is likewise characteristic of the coast-banks, is very remarkable: I may give as an instance, the Misteriosa Bank, on the edges of which the soundings change in 250 fathoms [460 m] horizontal distance, from 11 to 210 fathoms [20 to 380 m]..."

    How fitting would it be for an AR community to be built on an underwater reef once discussed by Charles Darwin?!

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