Open carry for concealed carry license holders passed with the understanding that trained gun owners could be trusted not to do something stupid. It was intended primarily to protect the CCW folks from "shooter with a gun" calls based on brief inadvertent display of a concealed weapon.

Oklahoma didn't have any gun carry restrictions until the 1970s, and it wasn't unusual to see ranchers with sixgun on their hip, and gun racks in their pickups. Current gun laws being enacted are an attempt to recover that time, but with the cultural changes, and a more "diverse" population, we'll have to see if that's such a good idea.

good video, guy;;; Thanks! -- j
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Yeah, that's when old dino does The Brontosaur Stomp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPD_...

I would have rather read "throw crap at" but I gave you a +1 anyway to prove I'm not a big baboon.

Good to hear. That is what makes this place special. We talk, not spend time crapping on each other. Awesome to have a place like this.

Oh, yeah, you do.

I did not consider your difference of opinion to be an attack. I like a healthy debate and that's all I was doing back. We're cool.
But I know when I'm being attacked in the Gulch. Oh, yeah, I do.

A lot may depend on where you are. When I made deposits in the night depository at the bank I prominently displayed my S&W. It might also be a good idea in a bad neighborhood, but generally, I think concealed is better.

I live in Texas and I open carry on occasion, but at the very least I conceal carry everywhere that is legal. I do see value in open carrying, as do most people in the groups Texas Carry (and Open Carry Texas, and Come And Take It, etc.).

The video brings out the two major problems with OC. One is that a criminal may take it from you. Well, technically, this is also possible with concealed carry (e.g., if they are mugging you, and check your pockets, etc.). But the best solution is to just make sure you are situationally aware. All the time.

The other problem is that if I OC it makes me a target. Well first of all, that is a good thing for you! If I am the first target, then that means you are not the first target. So why is this guy complaining?

But also, guess what: that same line of reasoning applies to professional law enforcement. It makes them a target? And yet the vast majority of law enforcement professionals prefer open carry. I suggest it is because its impact as a deterrent far outweighs the risk of making you a target. Open carry is an effective deterrent and will stop (or at least postpone) most crimes before they begin. At the very least, this is a tactical decision that should be left to the individual.

OC is more convenient. Not as much issue with tucking, untucking, adjusting, etc. It is nicer in hot weather. It lends itself to quicker draws.

In some states, OC is the norm. In some states, OC has been legal since the beginning, and recent pushes to allow concealed carry have been met with opposition. "Concealed carry? That is sneaky. What have you got to hide? If you want concealed carry, you must be up to no good." Of course this is silly. It is true that most criminals prefer concealed carry, because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. But the fact is simply that people are used to what they know, and education is critical.

The benefit of concealed carry is that it is out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Having a thin piece of cloth over your gun makes you less offensive to liberals. And it doesn't make you a target. But it does make you a more likely victim. Most criminals prefer unarmed victims, or at least people that appear to be unarmed victims. Look like a victim, become a victim.

I conceal carry most of the time in order to stay legal and to not offend some of my friends (and for convenience, to avoid having to switch back and forth between open and concealed). But I do see a lot of value to OC, and wish more people would do it.

Open carry without a retention holster or some way to secure that gun was plain stupid and irresponsible.

I wasn't attacking you, it is just that CCW guns are usually DA anyhow or/and have a sear block, plus a 6+ pound pull making an accidental discharge, especially by someone as qualified as you, very unlikely.

"I'll fire a warning shot and shoot you again."

I hadn't heard that one, before. I'll have to remember it!

Just don't carry that in a front pocket aimed the wrong way.

There are pros and cons about putting signs like "Is it worth getting shot in here?" of "I'll fire a warning shot and shoot you again."
I have a safety because there is a round in the chamber with the hammer cocked back.
I'm not going to shoot a little kid in the head during that adrenaline-pumping instant I have to pull my gun.
My aim will be moving on target when I thumb down the safety.
I've had plenty of practice at that.
I'm shooter competent. I've annually NRA qualified with three different firearms roughly 21 times for the Alabama DOC and twice more with a handgun to get a semi-retired security guard job.

It also tells a burglar to break in here to find guns. I don't disagree with you on the old guy in the corner, I'm with you CC is a great plan. My only question is why do you have a CC gun that has a safety?😎 Sometimes when I open carry, I do it with my Ruger 1911, which is my only gun that I carry that has a safety (besides a trigger safety).

LOL! Besides Radio they must also call you Killer.

When I'm like walking out of a Walmart alone or by myself elsewhere, I keep track of everyone around me.
But then I've had a lot of practice being a speck of blue in a prison yard or a day room where all the convicted felons wear white in Alabama.
Being retired from that is so nice now.
I'm even done with my semi-retirement security guard work.

I so humbly stand corrected.
Bwahaha!

The gun instructor in the video even mimicked how that "gangsta" must have sideways held the gun.
My argument is that, like when I was a bank guard, a crook or a terrorist would want to first take out anyone openly wearing a gun.
My strategy is to be the old guy unexpected shooter. My semiauto is set so all I have to do is thumb down the safety, aim and fire.

Both you and the video are correct. I can't tell you how many times I have been carrying "Concealed" and had my weapon become briefly visible for one reason or another. I was always worried about getting into trouble over that but thankfully not any more.

My outside yet inside closet kinda laundry room door is next to and 90-degrees from my back door.
My laundry door has a NRA car sticker on it as a scarecrow to burglars.who always run the risk of an armed someone in the house.
I preferred not to put that sticker on my car. That may clue a crook into breaking into the car to find a gun I always keep in it.
Anyone can see no one is in my car when I have it parked somewhere.

The one advantage to open carry is that it makes all the liberals run away, so you can get a clean shot.

I open carry on occasion, but at the very least I conceal carry everywhere that is legal. I do see value in open carrying.

The video brings out the two major problems with OC. One is that a criminal may take it from you. Well, technically, this is also possible with concealed carry (e.g., if they are mugging you, and check your pockets, etc.). But the best solution is to just make sure you are situationally aware. All the time.

The other problem is that if I OC it makes me a target. Well first of all, that is a good thing for you! If I am the first target, then that means you are not the first target. So why is this guy complaining?

But also, guess what: that same line of reasoning applies to professional law enforcement. It makes them a target? And yet the vast majority of law enforcement professionals prefer open carry. I suggest it is because its impact as a deterrent far out ways the risk of making you a target. Open carry is an effective deterrent and will stop (or at least postpone) most crimes before they begin. At the very least, this is a tactical decision that should be left to the individual.

OC is more convenient. Not as much issue with tucking, untucking, adjusting, etc. It is nicer in hot weather. It lends itself to quicker draws.

In some states, OC is the norm. In some states, OC has been legal since the beginning, and recent pushes to allow concealed carry have been met with opposition. "Concealed carry? That is sneaky. What have you got to hide? If you want concealed carry, you must be up to no good." Of course this is silly. It is true that most criminals prefer concealed carry, because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. But the fact is simply that people are used to what they know, and education is critical.

The benefit of concealed carry is that it is out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Having a thin piece of cloth over your gun makes you less offensive to liberals. And it doesn't make you a target. But it does make you a more likely victim. Most criminals prefer unarmed victims, or at least people that appear to be unarmed victims. Look like a victim, become a victim.

I conceal carry most of the time in order to stay legal and to not offend some of my friends (and for convenience, to avoid having to switch back and forth between open and concealed). But I do see a lot of value to OC, and wish more people would do it.

Out of Brain...liberals don't have a mind...I'd laugh but it's tooooooo sad.