Texas Attorney General Abbott to BLM-"Come and take it."

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago to Government

The rule of law is in place so crony govt pet agencies, BLM in particular here, cannot just swoop in and do what they please through intimidation. The line is drawn in the sand. I think Texas will win.

SOURCE URL: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/22/Exclusive-Greg-Abbott-to-BLM-Come-and-Take-It#

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Posted by jlc 10 years ago

This reminds me of the fact that the first thing that William the Conqueror did when he beat the Saxons was declare that all of the land in England belonged to the Crown by default. The national ownership of all land seems to be a common theme in trying to take control of a country. One of the reasons that William did this is that it enabled him to then hand out major parcels to the people who supported him.

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  Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
  
  One of my ancestors fought on William's side. He was knighted after Hastings, on the field, and awarded Saxon lands and castles. His name was Sir Hiatt. He was Norse.
  
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    Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
    
    Wow, interesting family history there! Do you have a family crest?
    
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      Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
      
      yes, two.
      
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        Cool! Describe. The artist in me has her curiosity piqued. :-)
        
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        Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
        
        I am related to several families over the years. One crest is for the Howards, the other is for the Kimbers. Both have crests. Hiatt is related to the Kimbers. Kimber and Howard crests are viewable on the web. My last name is Howard, middle name is Kimber for the family. Very British, you know. My mother's god father was General Lord Elphinstone.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        That is some August lineage. :-). Thank you for sharing that about yourself.
        
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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
  
  And therein lies the motivation. Tokens for the minions.
  
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Posted by SRS66East 10 years ago

Considering the BLM isn't authorized by Congress in a law enforcement capacity, I wonder how they will come and take it. If the BLM agents get shot in the process, technically they had no legal reason to be there, armed, in the first place. Congress wanted BLM to use local law enforcement for these purposes.

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  Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago
  
  Every Federal agency now has armed personnel and SWAT training, even including the Dept of Education, Social Security, and Dept of Fisheries.
  
  And they wonder why so many of us are armed?? As for Congress, it doesn't seem that any of them really care much what Congress does or doesn't do.
  
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    Posted by stargeezer 10 years ago
    
    And every one of them are united in a unholy alignment called "Homeland Security". All that is needed is a change of "department" patches and shirts and they are all HS and answer to one man - POTUS.
    
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      Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
      
      Let's see, brown shirts and black boots would seem appropriate.
      
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        They need something to identify them as a unified government agency... all under one overarching, all wise leader.
        
        Lessee... Homburg hats? Naw, too problematic, as some people would have to wear other types of hats.
        
        Identical neckties? Same problem - some people couldn't do that. (Well, there *are* the round hemp variety, but I digress...)
        
        I got it! How about a snazzy armband, everyone can wear one, all the same color. We need a logo on it, tho... just to show it's an official armband. That's the ticket!
        
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  Posted by squareone 10 years ago
  
  A salient feature of Nazi Germany was administrative officers carrying guns and having powers of arrest and seizure. Beware of history.
  
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  Posted by newtlove 10 years ago
  
  Hey Abbott! (Lew Costello)
  Is Harry Reid the "Bud Abbott" here?
  What the heck is going on? It's like a Grand Conspiracy is in operation with land grabs and all that.
  Of course such a conspiracy would extend back into the Bush and Clinton years where the BLM has been following a long-term planned execution of a scheme to grab land et cetera.
  Far fetched?
  
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  Posted by Hiraghm 10 years ago
  
  Pfft.. Who needs Congress?
  
  Actually their first act will probably be to nationalize the Guard to enforce it. Gone are the days of the State Militias standing in the way of "progress"...
  
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    Posted by jlc 10 years ago
    
    It is my considered opinion that one cannot nationalize the National Guard if it refuses to be nationalized. The National Guard has a volitional say in the matter.
    
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      Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
      
      But national guard units have a regular army liaison. That officer would be empowered to arrest (or more) any member not recognizing the nationalization order.
      
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Posted by Your_Name_Goes_Here 10 years ago

God bless Texas.

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  Posted by H2ungar123 10 years ago
  
  HE has!!
  
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Posted by AJAshinoff 10 years ago

Texas definitely has a pull on my soul these days. Being from Arizona, I'm so tired of squinting when I step outside in the morning and/waking up sweating. I'm just really hating the desert

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  Posted by jpellone 10 years ago
  
  I am here for you in San Antonio!
  
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    Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
    
    Point for Bexar County!! (We inherited the in-laws home in Ft. Windcrest... so it's our home (away from home) as well...)
    
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      Posted by jpellone 10 years ago
      
      Cool!!!
      
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  Posted by Eyecu2 10 years ago
  
  Well if you decide to come to Texas let me know as I am in Lubbock.
  
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    Posted by AJAshinoff 10 years ago
    
    Fair enough. It is pretty unlikely though. I reaaaaaaallly don't want to live in the desert anymore. I've been more then tempted to leave phoenix many times over the year. Unfortunately, every time I look to someplace green to move to I get disgusted with the representation and governance. Texas is pretty appealing though and if I had to bug-out that is where I'd likely go.
    
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      Posted by Eyecu2 10 years ago
      
      Look towards East Texas, you have the good of Texas with moisture unlike here in Lubbock.
      
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    Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
    
    There are quite a few Texans in here! It seems the ideas of Ayn's and the disposition of those from Texas have a natural disposition towards one another.
    
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      Posted by Eyecu2 10 years ago
      
      Well I do not consider myself a Texan as I lived in Florida until a few years ago but I will admit I like it better here except for the lack of water.
      
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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
  
  It is intense in all things, isn't it? Even the critters; scorpions, rattlesnakes and the MOST gruesome... Tarantula... Hang in there AJ.
  
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    Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
    
    There are about 49 places worse than Texas to be from... or be going to... ;-)
    
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      Posted by squareone 10 years ago
      
      The Northeast states are some of these.
      
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        Posted by Thoritsu 10 years ago
        
        Largely agree, but NH is the last haven.
        
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        Posted by Mimi 10 years ago
        
        I saw this license plate the other day that read, “Live Free or Die”.It was bold and direct. I like it. I realized I don’t know much about modern-day NH. Never been there. Lately, I want to see it very much. :)
        
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        Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago
        
        Check out the FreeState Project.
        
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        Posted by Mimi 10 years ago
        
        Oh, wow. That was very cool. Thanks for the tip.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        I just did on your recommendation. Pretty cool! I like that they're not backing down from their motto!
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        It's their state motto, coined at the outset of the first stirrings of our break from England.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        At least north of the counties that border Mass.
        
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      Posted by AJAshinoff 10 years ago
      
      I'm originally from LI NY. My idea of heaven is upstate NY, around Cooperstown or Fultonville. Unfortunately, I can never move back there as the taxes are as obscene as the restrictions and entitlements.
      
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        Please don't laugh... or take offense... but the 2 times I was on LI, I remember seeing a hoarde of guys in the process of lawn manicuring... ergo I always remember it as Lawn Guy Land. Pretty area, tho, and had my plans on working for the Port Authority happened, I'd likely be living there... tho now I wouldn't trade the Forge for anything!
        
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        Posted by AJAshinoff 10 years ago
        
        I grew up on a half acre of land in Shirley NY. The house was in my family for 50 years before I was raised there. It was a series of great memories from a much better time to be an American. Its disheartening that my kids have never experienced the freedom I did growing up. My only hope is that some semblance of that "American culture" can be recovered though my Conservative efforts (as an example, writing and otherwise).
        
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        My God, AJ, so do I... so do I... ;-) Sus
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        It is disheartening to see the profoundly corrosive changes. I still like the north fork of LI, but getting there is a bear. My in laws still live there, when they aren't down in Naples, FL for the winter. Glad you have such good memories to carry with you. Use them as a means to further your teachings to your son. It'll sink in.
        On another note, I don't understand how people can think the way they do, that because they train like military, that it makes them some sort of untouchable authority over me. It's unacceptable. I do not recognize that sort of "law". It is against every single principle this sovereign nation was founded upon! Intimidation, force used against people exercising their free will!?! A dictator is running things and clearly needs to be stopped. The how of it, though, requires backbone, which is sorely lacking in Congress, or in most other elected patsies in office.
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        Most in congress either know that things are lost or quickly come to that realization. They merely look to feather their own nest and live apart from the laws that they impose on the rest of us.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        My husband said he'd never move back. To me it's the land of big hair and fake nails. Unless you head to the north fork. Beautiful!!!
        
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        Posted by khalling 10 years ago
        
        So is Texas...
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        Lol! I once saw two girls in a car that was in front of me on the highway. Their hair was so big that it touched in the middle, and there was no visibility from my perspective, through the front windshield!
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        My husband is originally from LI as well. Kings Park. Love Cooperstown, but you're correct about the taxes and governance. We are looking at other parts of the US. CT is ridiculous!
        
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        Ya know, NMA... we trying to secede, er, separate up here in the future state of Jefferson would love to have ya! ;-) We can ALWAYS use rational-thinking objectivist up here!
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        I like the way you think! :-)
        Depends on a few ideas that are percolating where my husband works...
        
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      Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
      
      :-)
      
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Posted by KYFHO 10 years ago

Could this possibly have anything to do, behind the scenes, with water? I know the epa has plans to control every single bit of water in the states, be it a pond on your personal property or the Mississippi River. I notice this property is along the Red River. Glad to see Texas has a lot of reps with backbones. May have to go live there. In the northern half.

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  Posted by Bobhummel 10 years ago
  
  Water is the most valuable commodity in the west, or at least the rights to it. If you don't have the rights to the water your land is worthless.
  Cheers
  
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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
  
  They're trying to make it impossible to live in rural areas by doing exactly this. Herd people into urban areas. Agenda 21, baby!
  
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Posted by JEbrom 10 years ago

I was born and raised in Arizona, I am a desert Rat. My mother is a staunch Democrat, I stuffed envelopes for Bob Stump, before he switched sides, I adored Rose Mofford. No, John McCain is an embarrassment, and all of my family that is still in Phoenix are Democrats and they are all in for love and tolerance... as long as it it me bending to them. It does NOT go both ways. I love AZ, the desert, the mountains, the DRY AIR.. The people, not so much. I never thought I'd miss it as much as I did, but watching the last 10 years+ I am very proud to have given birth to a Texan and I am a firm believer in Texas standards. Greg Abbott is fantastic and I'm very glad (fiscally speaking) that I'm here. Roads are crazy but methods work....

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  Posted by jpellone 10 years ago
  
  Lots of traffic in San Antonio too.
  
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Posted by Susanne 10 years ago

Something about the (currently) 30 lawsuits AG Abbott has filed against the self-entitled yanqui invaders from Chicago, and that he is looking over all the BLM land grabs that have, perhaps, wrongfully removed sovereign Texas lands from the people of the great State...

While I so love our home and business in Jefferson, perhaps it's time to return to the Lone Star Republic...

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Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago

The BLM's going to get someone killed in all of this mess. What in the world makes anyone think that the government under Obama is going to pay any attention to a court ruling that won't be finalized until long after he's gone. They've showed for 6 years now that they have no fear of punishment, and before Obama did pretty much the same. It's a long old story with no discernible reason behind any of it.

We have to get the guns out of those idiots hands when they're on the job, Then we have to get rid of them.

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Posted by Mimi 10 years ago

I hope they do win. I’m definitely support the efforts to push back the land grabs.

*Mimi goes to watch a rerun of Rawhide*

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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
  
  Get overman to crack his bullwhips! He has video on here somewhere..
  
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Posted by straightlinelogic 10 years ago

Texas is a great state, and I got the best thing to ever come out of it--my wife!

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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
  
  Very nice!
  
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Posted by wiggys 10 years ago

will we be able to out live the "o" presidency?

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  Posted by AJAshinoff 10 years ago
  
  I won't. My son probably won't. But maybe, just maybe, if we start the ball rolling now my great grandchildren or their children will have solvent freedom oriented nation. I'll give up hope in this when they pour my ashes into the sea.
  
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Posted by xthinker88 10 years ago

I'm sure most of you have heard the song by Steve Vaus, Come and Take It:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJZz4p8r...

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Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years ago

"Remember the Alamo!"

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Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago

Depends who the leaders are.

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Posted by reSource 10 years ago

Just had to comment on The National Guard. The young people I know in the guard believe what the Federal Government tells them
That is why so many have come back with their lives destroyed from all the places they were never supposed to be sent to like Afghanistan

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Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago

Might come to a stand-off between BLM and Nat'l Guard. Wonder who will win?

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  Posted by jpellone 10 years ago
  
  Problem is, is that I think the BLM has more ammo...
  
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    Posted by Mimi 10 years ago
    
    *Gasp* More than the Department of Education?
    
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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
    
    If my inability to get 22LR is any indication, then you are probably correct.
    
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      Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
      
      Have not had trouble around my area. We are well stocked with stuff.
      
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        Where would that be? The Midwest (at least WI and MN) barely get any at all. On a recent business trip, I checked every Walmart, Farm&Fleet, Dicks, and even Cabelas along a stretch of I94 about 350 miles and nobody had any. I check my local stores every week and if they do get any, it's one case, and that sells out in about an hour (even with a 3 box limit).
        
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        Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
        
        Orangevale and Folsom CAL. Wild Sports is well stocked, the Ammo Dept., too, Big 5 has stock. I have over 4,100 .22 LR in inventory. I reload the big stuff like .45 Colt and .44 Magnum. Maybe I could get you some?
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        Not worth the shipping charge. But thanks for the thought.
        
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        Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
        
        STS Guns in Folsom has .22 LR in stock today. $6.95 for 50.
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        Wow, that's about twice as much as it should be. That's more than 13 cents a round, and two years ago, I was getting them for about 6 cents each.
        
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        Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
        
        No kiddin! I used to pay $20 for a box of .44 mag Winchester at Wal-Mart. Now they are $40 a box.
        I paid $50 a box at Wild Sports a few days ago. I paid $60 a month ago at Big 5. STS Guns has .44 mag at $42 a box.
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        It ain't the cost of the lead, I'll tell you that. I was doing some consulting with a lead smelter and their prices have been mostly steady or even declining for the past couple of years.
        
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        Posted by lostsierra 10 years ago
        
        Must just be sheer demand.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        There is some that comes in at the Dicks near me, but it gets grabbed up pretty quickly. So I've picked up some things that don't require .22.
        :-)
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        Well, I've always had others, but that gets expensive rather quickly. A buck a clip for .22 vs. $10 for a clip of .45 adds up fast.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years ago
        
        It does, that's why you have to make it count ;-)
        
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        That reminds me, finally got the room in the shop, so need to get the reloading bench set up. ;-) Thanks!!!!
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
        
        no good for rimfire. :-(
        
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years ago
        
        Ouch. In a way, tho, rimfire shooters don't have to search high and low for a 8# bottle of propellant that is non-existent - they just buy ammo. I still think the powder shortage is created; after all, there is no right to keep and bear reloading supplies... or ammo, for that matter. Grrr...
        
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  Posted by Hiraghm 10 years ago
  
  If the battle takes place on the Red River?
  Lessee... TX N.G. to the south, OK N.G. to the north, BLM in the middle. Could be the biggest tactical error since the Little Big Horn...
  
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Posted by Hiraghm 10 years ago

I'd believe the Texas A.G.'s sincerity more if he'd stop invoking "the rule of law" while referring to either of two republics as "democracies". It's oxymoronic in a surreal way.

(for the simple-minded in the audience: republic = rule of law; democracy = rule of the majority.)

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