But he did not tell everyone. So there!

Yeah, the murky immediate future is a way with our chipped away freedom ultimately lost is a lot scarier than a far, far long ago murky past.

Plato taught his students that the Earth was a sphere.

Old Dino ,me precious sounds like Golum from the Hobbit.
You may be right but, our understanding of ancient civilized man has been extended by thousands of years with the discovery of Gobekli Tepe in Turkey 6000 years older than the Sumarians from Mesopotania. In addition Geologist Robert Schoch Ph.D has shown strong evidence that the Sphinx dates to around 11000-9500bc much older than conventional wisdom. Puma Punka in Bolivia and Sacsayhunan in Peru amazing technological sites could be dated to 15000bc.

I find the topic quite interesting. I just finished Meet me in Atlantis by Mark Adams 2015.
It is a pretty thorough investigation of the popular theory's locations including Santorini, his conclusion was that Solon said nothing about a volcanic explosion and the Critias says earthquake , flood and sinking.
Ultimately he thinks Plato made up the story.
I am not so sure about that. Most thought Troy was a mythological city until it was discovered.
Anyway to me this is less disturbing to contemplate than discussing the fascist and socialists running for President!

That time period strikes me as way too long ago to have a legendary advanced for its time Atlantis civilization in it.
Me wants to be a stubborn old dino and stick to me precious ancient Minoan Santorini was Atlantis before it all blew up theory.
Oh, me precious! Oh, me precious!

You have my condolences on the loss of your mom, jimslag.

My sincere condolences jimslag. Best to you!

I think the jury is still out on Atlantis. Their is evidence of a impact that initially caused a rapid melting of 2 mile thick ice sheet over N. America that caused massive flooding, we have to expect that water would pour into both Pacific and Atlantic Oceans rapidly raising see levels. The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, also known as the Clovis comet hypothesis, is one of the competing scientific explanations for the onset of the Younger Dryas cold period after the last glacial period. The hypothesis, which scientists continue to debate, proposes that the climate of that time was cooled by the impact or air burst of one or more comets.

The general hypothesis states that about 12,900 BP calibrated (10,900 14C uncalibrated) years ago, air burst(s) or impact(s) from a near-Earth object(s) set areas of the North American continent on fire, disrupted climate and caused the Quaternary extinction event in North America.
100-fold spike in the concentration of platinum has also been found in Greenland ice cores, dated to 12,890 BP with 5 year accuracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger...

The President is not a King - per Constitution mostly a figurehead.
Our current Imperial Presidency only exists due to the Congress total dereliction of duty.
A more fundamental problem is a Congress not doing their Constitutional duty (like control of
war and spending authorizations) - not who
the next unconstitutional imperial President is.

Thanks

Most of their neighbors are really nice, one couple is from Belize but they lived in the US for a number of years then moved back and then were one of the first to live in the village. Some others are friendly but only speak Spanish. I have been there twice in the last 7 months and am going back for another 2 weeks or so, sometime in April to spend time with my Stepdad. In my area, I have not spent enough time in the area to get to know them.

I just gotta ask. Your parents say anything about the neighbors?

I'm not holding my breath, but if Cruz actually comes out on top without GOP fat cats pulling a Mitt Romney or a Kasich out of a play dirty hat, I'll vote for him like I did in the primary.
Yeah, I agree Cruz has his faults . . .

I hear you.

Looking forward to you sticking around here.

I like that dream.

Not trying to put words in your mouth but maybe that few of those who say they will leave if Trump wins will leave at all.
I've said it before~
There is a big difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.

Doubt they get free heat.

I want Cruz to get the nomination. But I guess
Trump would be better than Clinton or Sanders.
I thought that Nixon would be better than Humphrey (although I wasn't old enough to vote then), and then look what he did for free enter- prise,bringing in those government controls, with that wage/price freeze. Still, if people don't
want individual enterprise, why stop with go-
ing to a Canadian island? Why not just move
to Cube or Red China and be done with it?

I would consider moving there IF evil witch woman Hillary gets elected..

I AM voting for Trump, because he tells it like it is, he is a washington outsider, doesnt take campaign contributions that require favors he has to offer to be paid for by me, and he will threaten the corrupt crony establishment, and question why we are doing things. He is also committed to lowering taxes and getting us more equitable two way trade deals.

Hillary on the other hand IS the posterchild for the bought and paid for establishment, will have to give favors to wall street at my expense, and will increase minimum wages so my small business will have to struggle and probably close in the face of chinese low wage competition. She will also make it ridiculous to start a small business that the owner might want to sell later ( capital gains treatment she came out against- meaning tax at over 40% of the sale price of the business).

My parents moved there 2 years ago under the retiree program (QRP). The program is through the Belize Tourism Department, not Immigration and basically you are a long term resident with no chance of citizenship. One benefit is that for the first year, you can bring in your household goods, vehicles and everything else tariff free. In Belize, everything that comes into the country has a tariff on it, the level of which is determined on where it is coming from (Belize is a member of CARICOM). As for everything else, infrastructure is basic, medical care is not the best and if you live like a local is actually quite inexpensive. If you want imported goods, live on the beach in an American style condo, it is more expensive. I will be in the Cayo (the interior) about 3 miles outside the capital of Belmopan, living on 3 acres that costs me around $20 a year in taxes.

I understand that Belize is promoting retirees and others to live there. While I haven't investigated it in any depth, it looks like a really good deal to me.

First off, Liberals will NOT leave...even if Trump wins. What fun is there in converting like minded people to your way of life?

Secondly, in my mind, we really need Cruz to whip Trump. From what I've been seeing of Trump's rallies, he is better at dividing people than getting them to join together. He's even worse than Obama in that regard.

I am a believer of the Constitution and Cruz is a far better follower of that document than most other candidates out there. True, he has faults...some of them serious, but a perfect President we are never going to get.

I will still be on here as this is, at least for me, a good resource for like minded individuals who still keep the conversation active and enticing. Belize is not perfect, no place is, but it is going to be my Gulch and I will strive to make it home for the rest of my life.

Might be a good place for all in the kakistocracy, the perverse and the mindless to go, I'd donate to a kickstarter program to get that done...it would be well worth it, and we could make all of our America a Gulch.