An emotional Obama unveils his plan to cut gun violence

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 3 months ago to Government
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More roundabout legislation, the thing they left out was mention of the little caveat he added that if you are on Social Security and deemed unable to manage your finances, you cannot buy a gun. While that may make sense, since in those cases someone else is in charge of managing their finances, the real issue is the abuse by those people, which they do not address. More band aids and bubblegum on a dysfunctioanl system.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 3 months ago
    He was so phony! Those fake tears were disgusting!
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 3 months ago
      O'Blubber is just as fake when he moves his lips. There are times when he does slip up and tell the truth but the media has his back.
      I recall when he said "I want the spread the wealth around" and that somehow got blamed on a plumber for not having a license.
      I saw an actress cry more convincingly in a rented movie called Lucy earlier yesterday.
      Yep, the great and mighty O=0 pulled a Boehner boner, since the former RINO Chicken Speaker of the House really is an overgrown crybaby.
      Not the Chicken-In-Chief. He's just an overgrown embarrassment..
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  • Posted by starznbarz 8 years, 3 months ago
    At this point, no serious person can deny exactly who & what obama is. What I keyed on were the media writers, refusing to ask the obvious follow up question after every station in the Nation ran the clip of our hero wiping tears while saying " yes, it happens every day in Chicago..." The logical follow up - "Mr. President, Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the Nation, along with one of the highest murder rates, as does Washington,DC. What, specifically, will new regulations do to stop that? " Not one of several nightly news shows asked. THAT is the true enemy.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
      Exactly what I was thinking, the incredible arrogant ignorance of reality, and manipulation of events for their own good is so blatant one has wonder what is really going on. "Black Lives Matter" until we get to the gun question, then it's all about making sure other people can't get through loopholes, and never addressing where the real killers are getting their from. Probably because that would require some competent police work and investigation, vice hot button labels and artificial tears.
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  • Posted by rjkford 8 years, 3 months ago
    7 Years. 7 years he's been in office. How many tears were shed for our troops at Ft Hood. None. The beyond brave in Bengazi. zero. I could go on but that would be pointless. His time as POTUS has been a series of half truths and outright lies, made possible by the dumbing of America by our Leftist education system and a compliant news media. How these people can look at themselves in the mirror each morning escapes me. If we can't get a "real" person in the White House in the upcoming election....I'm afraid this could be the end of a brave and noble experiment in government for and by the people. Hey Barry, don't forget your prayer mat when you pack your things next January. Thanks for listening.rjk
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 3 months ago
    nickursis,
    Obama's restriction on the Social Security "victims" had nothing to do with finances...his insinuation is that if you are unable to balance a checkbook, that you lack the mental capacity to own a handgun.
    He is doing the very same thing to the Nation's veterans who fought, valiantly, to uphold the very right to "keep and bear arms".
    Please don't be fooled by the Leftist propaganda.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
      Actually Randy, I saw that in one article and have not been able to find the substance of his EO. My interpretation of that was such people were to liable to be mislead or used as cover by unscrupulous relatives or some-such nonsense. One thing I am sure of, they will never be able to confiscate the huge number of guns in this country, but his meager screwey efforts could allow the people who really should not be near one "Chicago black gangs" easier access than they have now. He is a total and absolute failure, fake tears and all.
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      • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
        Randy, here is the actual text of what they want, in some ways it does make sense, it is not as reported.:

        Although States generally report criminal history information to NICS, many continue to report little information about individuals who are prohibited by Federal law from possessing or receiving a gun for specific mental health reasons. Some State officials raised concerns about whether such reporting would be precluded by the Privacy Rule issued under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA). Today, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule expressly permitting certain HIPAA covered entities to provide to the NICS limited demographic and other necessary information about these individuals.

        The actual text of what they are doing is at:
        https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...

        While I do not believe anything I see from our government any more, at least we should see what they are really saying, since the media is generally not worth spit, either, anymore.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 3 months ago
    In typical liberal-progressive fashion Obama tries to treat the symptoms rather than the disease. In fact he refuses to recognize the disease. One must question the underlying reasons for his actions. Is he simply an incompetent fool or is he something far worse.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
      Prof, indeed, true. The issue is much more complex than gun show loop holes, an easy favorite of the Dems. Where do the gangs in Chicago get all their guns and bullets? Surely not at the gunshow on the waterfront, but the back trunk of a car, or a brown bag delivery. They speak in their exposition about how bad the penalties are for going around the current laws, yet that does not seem to bother the real criminal set. If they cannot enforce and apply all the current laws, all the EOs in the world will not change anything. Go after the outliers before the mainstream, and get better results.
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  • Posted by Dennis55 8 years, 3 months ago
    Well, it's only Wednesday but those crocodile tears on the front page of the WSJ force me to declare a winner for this week...... Barry cried-Atlas Puked.
    Atlas Puked Award-APA going forward. I think I may declare him a permanent -maybe the life time achievement APA holder so I can give other deserving looters and moochers a crack at it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 3 months ago
    Every law or regulation should have a caveat printed with it telling of the side effects, just like medication. In many cases, the side effects are worse than what the medications help. A new law's side effects might be listed as: Might cause loss of freedom. Might cause others to falsely accuse and incarcerate you. Might prohibit your enjoyment of of life and your pursuit of happiness. Of course, that will never happen, but it should be what's going on in your mind every time you read about a new law.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 3 months ago
    It is not a plan to halt gun violence! To the contrary, it is a plan to further enslave the American population by further destroying our Constitutional protections. Don't listen to his words but greatly fear what his actions are really about. This fascist dictator has no clothes!
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  • Posted by SBilko 8 years, 3 months ago
    The founders deliberately set up an inefficient government, because they rightly feared government, then they put the 2nd amendment in place so that the people could defend themselves from an oppressive government as necessary. Giving POTUS the benefit of the doubt. as a Constitutional history professor, he should know this. Therefore, it's obvious that he seeks to undermine the Constitution solely to retain power. His tears bring new meaning to the word disingenuous.
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  • Posted by MountainLady 8 years, 3 months ago
    Absolutely phony. He's not even a good actor.

    His teleprompter said: Wipe non-existent tear (s) with finger so people will think you really care.

    The man does not have emotions. But he thinks since emotions work for other heads-of-state (Putin, maybe?) then a show of emotion would work to gain himself adulation. As he once said, It worked for David Rockefeller---referring to David's belief that his daughter would not want to see him, for various reasons.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 3 months ago
    I don't believe he has any concern for my kids. Not one bit. I understand his emotion. However, these odd requirements like the inclusion of the mysterious no-fly list...I just don't get it.

    With a heavy heart I must admit that I don't think these measures will reduce crime.
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    • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 3 months ago
      By the way, how do you get on the "no-fly list"? Any law enforcement official or political elected can pretty much submit an email to the FBI and you will be on there. It's why certain Republicans have fought that so hard, because it can easily become an "enemies list".
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago
    Subjective to the end. Now that the street theater is over let's turn to the objective points.

    Some years ago the nation passed 10,000 gun control laws en total. You can't slow down what isn't enforced.

    Some days ago o'boohoos did his worst job of acting yet.

    So what was the point? Like the other measures it's to protect the protective echelon and build a solid wall between a dictatorship and the nation.

    The true test will come up when he orders the military to take the field against the citizens and gives the order to fire.

    The Nuremberg defense won't work nor will failing to uphold their oath of office.

    Starting with the Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs of Staff and down to the newest raw recruit.

    Just to remind them when you see a soldier or sailor or airman and especially a Marine say "Thanks For Serving Our Constitution.'

    Sometimes a little smile, handshake and a phrase like that goes a long way.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago
      Comment on comment this just in on Obama;s views of second amendment. First Obeyme then what he really believes.

      from townhall.com



      "I believe in the Second Amendment, it's written right there on the paper," Obama said.

      But Obama's history shows otherwise. Not only did he go around Congress today to push his gun control agenda, an action the American people condemn on a variety of issues, he supports extreme gun control measures that are contrary to the Second Amendment according to the multiple Supreme Court rulings. A few examples:

      -Obama supports a ban on handguns.

      -Obama has voted to ban common ammunition.

      -Obama has repeatedly voted against self-defense rights.

      -Obama has suggested in the past that gun dealers stop selling semi-automatic firearms (essentially all firearms). During his speech today, he praised dealers who have done so.

      -Obama believes in the "common-sense" gun laws of Australia and England, which required mass confiscation and gun bans.

      -Obama has been advocating for thousands of citizens to be stripped of their Second Amendment rights without due process for showing up on the extremely inaccurate, bloated and unreliable terror watch list.

      -Etc.

      President Obama never has been, and never will be, a believer in the Second Amendment.

      He doesn't believe in the Constitution either despite his oath of office, but then it's hard to impeach when most of Congress are co-conspirators.
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      • Posted by Timelord 8 years, 3 months ago
        "I believe in the Second Amendment, it's written right there on the paper," Obama said.

        The number of lies that man has told is approaching Avagadro's number! Even Bill Clinton missed that one by several orders of magnitude.
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      • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
        The Obamanation surely has no respect for the people. He is the ultimate servitor of the special interest and his homies. Most of his changes are useless window dressing, probably leading up to the outraged "I have tried everything" rant and an EO trying to ban all gun sales. Won't work. If, as you said, they just did their damn jobs and followed up on things, a lot of this wouldn't happen. Instead of bleating Black Lives Matter, go in and pull the guns from every gansta boy in Shi@cago. But no, that would offend his homies. He is truly a model drawn from AS.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
    Here is a somewhat different article in NYT, it seems to indicate even they have no real faith this is anything but theatre. Interesting is when you look at their graphics they clearly show people react negatively (by buying many more guns) either when the Obamanation is elected, or he does one of these stunts. The other one shows timelines for some of the most nasty cases and they are littered with his government failing to make the systems in place work right. We don't need his bully pulpit, they just need to actually do what the law says and make their systems work.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/us/...
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 3 months ago
    States like California already take guns away based on this expanded definition of mental illness. And that is wrong. It should require a jury to take away someone's guns or any other civil right. Anything less is not due process.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
      While not due process, I think a lot of it is putting someones personal information out in a public jury is not good for anyone. On top of that, they can't do the trials they have in anything under years and years. It should be based on some medical definitions, and then have an appeal provision (i.e. prove you are not crazy). While I support gun rights, I also support common sense, and some of the drugs they give out legally, as well as illegally, cause people to become very irrational, and a gun is the last thing they need to have. But individual rights, as well as their impact on others, needs to be paramount.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 3 months ago
    We need this to spread. Yes Archie isn't very eloquent but he is still correct.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0...
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
      While Archie was portrayed as some sort of bumbling conservative stooge, he was really just a basic MK1 Mod 0 American. Most people looked down on him but did not realize a large number of Americans from 40's-60's were like that. He was goodhearted, but had limited education, and looked at things in a basic, what was fair way. The writers made him seem a lot worse than his character was. Although issuing guns to everyone on a plane at start, and picking them up at end, may seem like a simple answer, all the body parts from nimrods shooting themselves would make a mess.:)
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 3 months ago
        I mostly agree with but where I differ is that I believe that the vast majority would be to scared to do anything but carry the weapon.

        Additionally if this were to be done I would suggest something like this http://www.popularmechanics.com/techn...
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        • Posted by $ 8 years, 3 months ago
          Oh, yes, that is true. Most people probably do not have any "gun sense" at all, given that there is no real training. I went to high school and we had a rifle team, and there used to be lots of free gun classes. Now you have to pay for them and most people have been indoctrinated "guns are bad". So they rarely seem to know where the bullet exits.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 3 months ago
    I do not think Obama has the ability to feel for anyone but himself, and that is based on his ability to retain power. He is cold and calculating, but does not even have the IQ to handle complex decision making. He is a puppet for Jarrett and Soros. Either would and have screwed over hundreds of people. They are a group without conscience. Sorry O, Bill had it all over you with the "feel your pain" thing! Hillary is just as cold and calculating.They both want guns gone because the UN wants guns gone, and it will add to their power.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 3 months ago
    Just a jab at the conservatives to rile them up, without correcting any problem that we have evidence of.
    The conservatives should open ridicule his behavior as unhelpful, spiteful, illegal, nonsense that it is, and make him out to be a spoiled, narcissist rat (that he is). "Oh, the king is dissatisfied with his dessert, and is throwing food...poor baby"
    We should not get upset publicly. It shows we acknowledge his power. We should treat it like a fly to be swatted, and then paint Hillary as the same big baby with the same fascist intentions.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 3 months ago
    A panelist on Fox News Channel's "Outnumbered" program--it might have been Harris Faulkner, the hostess for the day--actually suggested inspecting the podium and searching for slivers of raw onion.
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