A short course in counter-terror theory

Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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Strategic thinking by a friend whom I consider expert.


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  • Posted by Technocracy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Switzerland is similar in regards armed and trained citizenry. When they leave the service they keep their weapons as well. Shooting is also something of a national sport there.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The international black market in arms is thriving. Criminals will have access to guns no matter how hard misguided bureaucrats make it for legal acquisition of firearms. Only a worldwide ban on gun ownership, rigorously enforced by a global police state, will have a chance of shutting down access to guns.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If they don't respond, it gives us counter-propaganda ammunition to paint ISIS as false prophets, which undermines their credibility with potential new recruits.
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  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In Australia, a gun permit is obtained with great difficulty (not personal experience).
    Yet a 15 yo Islamist punk gets a gun and kills a police accountant, an Iranian refugee gets a gun and shoots up a central Sydney coffee shop. etc.
    I am not sure what all this proves, maybe gun control is not strict enough, or, maybe does not work.
    Proper immigration control would help.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Passive opinions do not change laws and certainly not whole societies. If 5% of Americans took to the streets to non-violently protest the laws, those laws would change. See my comment to JLC above about the research of Erica Chenoweth, et al.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    aren't they too smart to respond to a ploy to group them
    together in one place? -- j
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 8 years, 4 months ago
    Something too many people and analysts miss is the simple equation of Terror or Asymmetrical Warfare. Real aggressive war is, according to Tom Clancy, "Grand Theft writ large."
    Asymmetrical Warfare and Terror are less destructive, as a comparison to real conventional war and definitively so when compared to war employing WMD. They are about Control of the peoples, and through them, of the wealth of nations. In short, its all about the money, the promotional propagandas of religion or faith or what ever are just that, promotional propaganda.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 8 years, 4 months ago
    Old news, published in a dozen multiservice & JTTF/DHS FM's & pubs since 1971 [Predates DHS, but JTTF existed with a different name.]
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree on the Noisy part. Blasts you outta the room. But I still like to see the movie on the big screen.

    Jan, wears a sweater to the movies
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If that were true, why has pot been illegal for 81 years? You're not going to convince me that 95% ever supported that law staying in place.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As a gun owner and former military member, I would suggest that, had other employees in San Bernardino been armed, the outcome likely would have been much the same. Semiautomatic pistols and revolvers don't stand much of a chance against semiautomatic rifles. I recall a recent situation where an armed man walked into a diner and killed 4 armed police officers before they could even return fire.

    Now, saying that...I solidly believe that those people should have been allowed to have been armed. Regardless of the outcome, at least they could have had some control over their final destinies. Without firearms, they were helpless pawns.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting point, MichaelA, of shifting the blame from 'the people who caused it' to 'the government that was supposed to protect me'.

    'Avoiding crowds' is the only protection I can think of. Unfortunately, I do go to movies, which are prime targets.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Israel's problem, however, is proximity. If America weren't an entire ocean away, I'll bet that we'd be seeing similar issues - or that we'd be neck deep in actual military conflict. Israel actually stops a lot of incidents from happening - you just don't hear about those because most of the people who are dangerous get preemptively incarcerated because they engage in lesser forms of violence and threats first.

    I would also point out, however, that every single Israeli citizen gets conscripted into the military for at least two years - including women. Then they take their service weapons home. So every single Israeli citizen is well-trained in both armed and hand-to-hand combat. The majority of the attacks are conducted in stealth, and most happen in certain areas which are easier to get to from the West Bank and Gaza - where the Palestinians live.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago
    One big missing piece: carve the heart out of the evil, decisively and with malice. ISIS has built a fantasy about a holy war that will be final in an ultimate battle between the warriors of Allah and the infidel armies of the world in a little town in Syria. Rather than let this infected boil of lies fester and grow, I say challenge ISIS to Armageddon! Set a day when we will engage them at the appointed location, and challenge them to make their prophecy come true. If they back down, their myth will collapse, and the allure will fade. If they rise to the occasion, it will draw them into one location, where they can be pulverized, for all the faithful to witness as to the lie of their sham.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 4 months ago
    nice analysis...

    police arm themselves to protect themselves first...everyone else second...arm yourself...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Link that to the governments need to include wars in their cycle of economic repression. There is a need for major red herrings and ringing the bells of patriotism and altruism as part of the smoke and mirrors section and once started it seems to take on a life of it's own. This time the over the horizon promise changed into seven non stop years so far and switched into a new arena before the old one was finished. Precisely because five percent didn't demand peaceful change and their civil rights but gave up their civil rights and freedoms for an illusion of safety.

    Your five percent system while welcome might find it's biggest threat is the government itself.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will have to dig out my research on this, but I have links and papers demonstrating that if 5% of the people support peaceful change, it happens. Violent opposition routinely fails.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago
    Thanks. That was interesting, insightful, and well-written. Allow me offer an amendment: "3. More armed civilians and the elimination of “gun-free zones”. (This has been tested and found effective in Israel. In the wake of San Bernardino we are beginning to see police organizations recommend it.)"

    Israel has strict gun control. It takes about two months to get a license, and certified training is part of the process. All the guns in Israel do not stop suicide bombers.

    When I heard the news about San Bernardino, I, too, wished that those innocents had been armed. But, then, I reconsidered. In the 2012 Empire State Building shootings, nine people were wounded by police bullets. And the police actually practice with their weapons.
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