Good philosophic works

Posted by $ SarahMontalbano 8 years, 5 months ago to Philosophy
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I am recently beginning to branch out and explore the ideas of philosophers other than Ayn Rand (although I seriously doubt anything will change my mind on Objectivism). I'm currently trying to decipher the mess called Critique of Pure Reason, by Immanuel Kant, but I'm finding it difficult to wade through the intellectual goop that surrounds modern philosophy. Does anyone have some good books/essays/websites/philosophers to recommend to me?


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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 5 months ago
    Well, I have read Plato's Republic ( I thought it
    stunk, but I read it), and some of Aristotle. Aristot-
    le seems to me to be the most intelligent person
    who ever lived (possibly excepting Ayn Rand; but
    I'm not certain even of that). I read his validation of
    the Law of Identity, maybe about 6 times be-
    fore I understood it. The thing was, he was val-
    idating something that normal people would nev-
    er have thought of questioning, that was what
    made it so difficult. He made some mistakes in
    biology, but he was still a genius. I also read
    Augustine's Confessions and City of God
    (that was really rotten), and some of Thomas
    Aquinas. I have read John Locke's Two Treat-
    ises of Government
    . I have not read Kant yet;
    sometime maybe when I have plenty of time and
    plenty of Coca-Cola (as a stomach-settler). Ad-
    mittedly, I have a prejudice against him already,
    but I guess it is a little unfair of me to denounce
    him without having read him (other than in quotes by others).
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Due to Ayn Rand's admiring of Aristotle I had been planning to read some of his works. However, Aristotle for Everyone was mentioned in this thread and it seems to be a good introduction, before I delve into the works themselves. Thank you for the input!
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't understand until I read the link- I love what he's said, both amusing and insightful. I'm going to look at his books, too, for sheer entertainment purposes! Thanks John!
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    he was a science-fiction writer who had nearly-objectivist
    principles at heart when he put his stories together.
    my comment is more for entertainment than philosophy! -- j
    .
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago
    Why not start with Aristotle - Ethics would be a good one. He observed the emerging mind and the resulting behaviors of mankind. It's also more direct and based in real human potential. Politics is another one.
    In terms of natural law verses manmade law there is always Frederic Bastiat..The Law.
    And of course, there is my favorite mentor of a more recent time...Mark Hamilton, Neothink and Neotech.
    I'll save this link during the week end, perhaps I'll come with a few other unusual ones.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Amazon had a deal going where you paid for the kindle over four months. with extra added on just a straight division of the price by four. It didn't show up until you went to the check out for a paper white.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have one of the first models and I had to buy a case to have a light. I read between 50-80 books a year...with my aging eyes a kindle is godsend.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a very good deal; says $49.99 on Amazon's website, but it's still fantastic. I used to have a Kindle Paperwhite, and I liked having the adjustable light.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My gut reaction was a scream of happiness; not because it's a comic book, but that Ayn Rand was included. XD
    This book could be potentially very interesting.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    FYI: I saw that Amazon is running a Black Friday special on a basic kindle for $43.00. You may want to check that out.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to have a Kindle e-reader, but I seem to have misplaced it... permanently.
    I'll do my best to lessen the costs with my Mac app, however, because this is looking to be an expensive venture!
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  • Posted by mspalding 8 years, 5 months ago
    For a survey of the various philosophers in an unusual format you might try Action Philosophers! by Fred Van Lente. It's a 300 page graphic novel (comic book) introducing 42 philosophers and their ideas (including Ayn Rand).
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've read Ominous Parallels and it made me feel nauseated too. It was so easy to see where our society is leading.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ditto on Economics in One Lesson. In the same vein Berenstein who did Cliff Notes on Anthem, Atlas Shrugged and Fountain head has Objectivism In One Lesson, Same on Plato

    A good source to lessen your spending is the Kindle Books with a reader or the kindle program for PC or Mac. Many of these volumes are no charge.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ominous Parallels covers the development of philosophy in the historical sense and applies it to modern times the period 1900 to 1980's with emphasis on our own country and through each decade does so in the context of the times.

    The threads from that are easily followed

    One I don't recommend is a magazine called reason for lack of documentation even after promising in print to provide same from two different article authors. They claim to be libertarian but i have a hard time accepting that as no evidence of Reason was found.

    Soon after I commented the poster disappeared.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Peikoff History of Philosophy lecture course referred to elsewhere on this page includes several lectures on Aristotle and Aquinas, showing both their strong points and the weaknesses. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    Ayn Rand considered herself to be Aristotelian in essence and regarded Aquinas as the best -- in his philosophy, not his theology -- as the classical thinker to follow up on Aristotle's philosophy. The differences in Kant versus Ayn Rand and Aristotle are fundamental.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Leonard Peikoff's Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand, or "OPAR", is essential for understanding the foundations and at least implicitly the contrasts with traditional philosophers, but he's asking about Kant in particular.

    Leonard Peikoff's lecture series on the History of Philosophy explains the historical development of the major philosophical positions through the history of western civilization, how they were connected and influenced one another, how they differ from Objectivism, and the Objectivist answer to philosophic problems in the historical context. He cites references and recommended reading. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    The course includes two full lectures on Kant, and subsequent lectures show Kant's further influence on philosophy, including Hegal, Marx and Pragmatism. It also shows why Kant's opaque "Muddy waters look deep" works are so difficult to read.

    This history of philosophy course provides the background to understand the historical importance of philosophers, like Kant, influential in the history of ideas, and Ayn Rand's philosophy from "Galt's speech" to OPAR in ways you will not otherwise get.
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