You won't get me to agree that the breakdown of the family (primarily within the black community) is solely a function of the effects of the war on drugs.
That said, I think that the war on drugs has been a foolish pursuit, and is a terrible waste of resources. As are all instances of prohibition based on a moral basis.

Please point to any discussion on this forum in which I have not been "open minded?" I am a very staunch advocate of my position, but I don't think that you can point to any instance where I have not been open to the discussion. Quite frankly, it has been you and those on the other side of the argument who have been absolutely closed minded.

Yet there are those here who continue to condemn an entire theology due to a few (and yes, it was a minority) of those in the structure who violated their oaths.

"Believe what you want just don't cram it down my throat like it's something I need to hear because you think I'm misguided or something. "

You mean like objectivism? or the need for limited government? Or the importance of the 2nd Amendment?

Again, your resentment leads you to the paranoid misapprehension that I'm trying to proselytize you. I don't give a shit what you believe, just as I don't give a shit what Obama believes. But, when you're wrong, or when he's wrong... I'm going to argue.

I'm not making it complicated at all. What you believe as right and wrong is not what others believe is right and wrong. How is that complicated?

If I want their opinion, I'll give it to them? Closed, not open.

I'll build one. You can come or not as you please.

Oh yeah... almost forgot...

THE CHURCH IS NOT GOD.
Nor is it Christianity. When you stop confusing the institution with the religion, then maybe people will stop thinking you're misguided.

"Yeah..so splash him with some water and make it all better. Whew..that was a close one. "

Apparently you're not paying attention to what you're typoing...

"the church has had to lean ever more heavily on the mystical consequences for disobedience, as the authority to employ physical consequences in the real world has been stripped from them. "

Which has nothing at all to do with actual Christian beliefs or the teachings of Jesus.

Might find this useful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_...

A massive part of that problem is the war on drugs. It's difficult to instill any values at all into a population that is constantly being harassed and targeted for imprisonment by law enforcement, which takes fathers out of their homes and locks them away for ten years, thus ripping apart the social structure of their families, their neighborhoods, and their communities, creating a social situation in which the mothers have no choice but to become the sole economic provider for their children, and are forced to lean on the state for financial support. Some of the youth are lucky, and manage to avoid that type of environment, but it typically is only a matter of luck, and nothing more. If we want to solve the problem of violence and poverty in the black community, we need to recognize that their situation is not their own doing, but the direct result of government oppression beating them down, and the only way to fix it is to end the war on drugs.

The western world never decided to implement a separation of church and state. You're understanding of western history is flawed.

No you didn't. It's weighing your shoulder down even now. Your resentment is palpable.

So, an alcoholic can smash a whiskey bottle, and it's all better, for the rest of his life he'll never be tempted to drink again?

It doesn't work that way. And you're arguing Catholic rituals to a protestant who doesn't see the requirement for religious institutions....