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Posted by lukenbocker 10 years, 8 months ago to News
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I think we need to stop naming kids DaQuan and ShaT'qua. We also need to spend more time with our kids and love them and make sure that God and Jesus are first in our lives.


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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ....the entire grace part of gods character......That's your opinion stargeezer and you are welcome to it. Some of us don't hold the same opinion and for myself, I get tired of being shot with bible bullets because I don't hold the same opinion. In my opinion religion has been the bane of man. How many lives have been controlled and cultures destroyed in gods name? How many die daily because someone believes 'my god is better than your god and I'll kill you to prove it.'

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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No that not what is taught at church. Perhaps a visit sometime might educate you about what church is? I've taught suday school for high schoolers and adults and I've never told anyone these sort of lies. I'm not too sure where you got these things, but you're just wrong.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry you really don't. No human has the ability to damn your soul to hell. None of us. You may decide over the entire course of your life that you want nothing to do with God. Your choice, nobody will force you too.

    AFTER you die, and have successfully avoided any holy influences in your life what happens is between you and God. I know that you want to be all anti god and everything, but as the hourglass runs out lots of folks turn to God for help beyond their ability to handle. Maybe you will maybe not, again nobody chooses for you.

    Decide in the last second of your live that you don't want to change a thing -guess what, YOU decide. Not me, not some preacher someplace, not god, not your dad, you decide.

    My job in the entire thing is to just make sure you understand that.

    God created heaven for people who want to be there, not for folks who think they've got to go. BTW, I'm not attacking nobody. I'm just having a good laugh at the misconceptions here. Don't anybody give up your day jobs because you won't make as theologians.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    o.O
    Apes are not lions. Are you taking the analogy to ridiculous extremes because you're still in a perverse mood, or are you really that obtuse?

    The "sin" you decry, on innocent babies, is that they will act according to their instincts, their nature, just as a lion will act according to his nature. For example, *according to a lion's nature*, if you annoy him, he will kill you and not lose a second's sleep over it. He is born this way, with this "sin" upon his head. To be otherwise would be a learned behavior. You want to get into heaven, learn not to behave like an ape.

    But, amusingly, you argue as though everyone has a "right" to get into heaven, that they have a "right" to an afterlife... kind of like arguing as though everyone had a "right" to a job... no, you have a right to a job if you suit your would-be employer. Likewise, your "right" to an afterlife is based solely upon meeting God's criteria for achieving an afterlife. If it were standing on your head 12 hours a day reciting Chinese poetry while spitting ball bearings... that may not make any sense to you, but that's the criteria.

    Hey, one day, you're going to die, be put in the ground and rot, and that's the end of it. If that belief makes you happy, and gives you that feeling of intellectual or ethical superiority you seem to need to get through the day... more power to you! I'm not one for kicking other people's crutches out from under them. But then I already said I wasn't an Objectivist.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why did you start work broke instead of a billionaire? Because your parents were broke, that's why. You want to start work as a billionaire, you have to be born to billionaire parents.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What a horribly confused idea you all have of the Christian faith. No wonder you all reject every thought about it. Being told a grimms fairy tail like these would scare anyone. Afraid you all really missed the entire grace part of Gods character and focus on the judgemental and even twisted that.

    I can't believe that you think that's what it's about! No wonder.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That made NO sense. I've known plenty of people who know next to nothing about religion and they've never ripped anyone's faces off. You're messed up.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And I never understood why an innocent man is poor, either. I mean, I'm innocent; why aren't I rich? Why did I start work broke instead of a billionaire?

    Tell you what... have this conversation with an "innocent" lion or an "innocent" wolf and see how long your face remains intact while conversing with that "innocent" animal.

    Never could understand why an innocent lion is born with already the label of "killer" laid on it.

    We are the apes that we are; it is in our nature to act according to our nature. It takes an act of will to do otherwise. The default position is to act according to your nature. So you have 'sin' on you until you prove yourself more than an animal by controlling your nature.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJsYKhEV...
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Apparently you haven't read all the comments being flung around, star. And you missed the part where I explained that I grew up in a religious christian home. I've been there, I bought into it for years, deeply bought into it. My father was a minister when I was a kid. What tenants am I rejecting? What hysteria are you talking about? You're reading something that isn't there. I can reject whatever I see fit to reject. That last paragraph of yours is an attack on me for disagreeing with religion, but you didn't explain what I said exactly that you're attacking. And that last sentence...lol...really? "masking tape" is the same as what I said?
    Make no mistake, I correctly understand what I am rejecting.
    And I'm not the hysterical one in the room.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, I always had trouble understanding that whole 'spacetime' thing, where causes had to precede effects. Seems awfully inconvenient for a being capable of creating a universe...

    The thing about an "innocent" baby... from God's perspective, he's a father, a grandfather, possibly a great grandfather. That whole "omniscient" thing that comes from existing outside of spacetime.

    Ever see "Slaughterhouse Five"? "2001 A Space Odyssey"?

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    Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is also the possibility that reincarnation is real, and the only people who get to go to Heaven are those who live good lives, while everyone else has to keep coming back to Earth over and over again until they get it right.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lets Shrug, Sorry, but you missed the whole point of things. I wonder how the religious discussions were couched in your home if you think that anyone here has "damned you all to hell".

    Frankly you need to ratchet down the hysteria and study religion some time because you really don't understand anything correctly. Surely you'd agree that if you lack understanding perhaps your preconceptions might just be wrong and you would be better served by correctly understanding what you are rejecting?

    I'm not saying that you should become a Christian, I'm just saying that not correctly understanding the tenants you so vehemently reject is shameful for an intelligent person. Making a totally wrong theological statement like that is embarrassing. It's like saying that stars are hung with masking tape when you talk with an astronomer.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's simple, really. The church has to convince people to bow down to its authority somehow. Telling them that they're all inherently evil and doomed to suffer forever in a lake of fire and brimstone unless they obey the church's every command is an effective method of scaring them into compliant obedience. Ever since the Western world decided to implement separation of church and state, the church has had to lean ever more heavily on the mystical consequences for disobedience, as the authority to employ physical consequences in the real world has been stripped from them.
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    Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really? That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that particular piece of information. Thanks.
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