Galt's Gulch

Federal judge orders IRS to court

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago to Government
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This seems interesting, and the comments seem more so, in that they seem to echo the way a lot of Gulcher's feel about our current regime. It's indicative that only now is a judge actually going to ask the IRS why they have blown them off..
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
    The IRS is found to be acting against the people repeatedly. The puppet that runs the IRS is replaced with another puppet and nothing ever changes. This is so because the IRS is fundamentally an agency that has THEFT at gunpoint as its primary goal.
    Nothing will change this.
    This is what government does.
    The only solution is to dissolve the agency completely and strike down the unconstitutional (and unratified by the states) law that was used to create it.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago
      The system has bred a herd of imperial stormtroopers, who act as tools of the govt. It is nasty when they get caught, but their arrogance is amazing. This has gone on for 2 years and is so full of blatent lies it is just incredible. And no one has ever been held accountable. A lot like AS foretold...
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      • Posted by jdmatthew 8 years, 10 months ago
        This level of arrogance have been growing for more than just the past 2 years. We have been on a downward slide for more than 100 years. Woodrow Willson laid out the ground work with his domestic policies like: The Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, the Progressive Tax System and was a ardent supporter of Jim Crow laws. Wilson's record of progressive reforms not only reshaped much of America, it also inspired the next generation; Franklin Roosevelt and other young progressives continued his work.
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago
          JD, I did not mean to indicate that this was just a 2 year thing, I specifically meant this IRS crap, which should have been hammered out in 3 months and lerner should be in her second year in prison instead of on retirement with a bonus. The fact the entire government system has been stonewalling to protect itself and the individuals who did the Demcrap bidding just shows how corrupt the entire thing has become. Not that they have a lock on corruptiness, the Repubs wrote the book with Nixon and his gang. We alwasy get back to how the whole system has rotten itself inside out, and still steals from us daily to maintain itself. The Progrssive movement is just a cover for Grand Theft politics.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
          I prefer the term digressive or perhaps regressive but aggressive certainly fits. Nothinig progressive about them.

          The usual answer is we can't giver the public everything they want without raising taxes.

          KISS answer. Then don't.

          Duuuhhhh
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        • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 10 months ago
          It didn't start with Wilson, even though he put it in turbo drive. Teddy Roosevelt put it into high gear when he broke up Standard Oil. It actually began with the Clayton Act (which was enacted in the 1880s) and other laws meant to interfere with business and how it's run, particularly the anti-trust laws. Once the ground was laid, supporting government intervention in the economy, the sky became the limit, as we can see now, some 135 years later. Wilson, both Roosevelts, and many others just pushed the boat a little further down the river.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago
      The view that the 16th Amendment wasn't properly ratified has had a fair hearing in court and lost.

      I, too, think we would be better off without the IRS or the taxes it enforces. But we'll need a new amendment to repeal the 16th, because most of it is legal (though they've certainly pushed the envelope).
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
        Fair hearing? From a judicial branch that is corrupt and defends the unconstitutional on a daily basis?
        I agree it would likely be easier to get an amendment to reverse the 16th abomination since there will likely never be a fair hearing.
        Cui Bono.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Comment One - The Federal Government went from Four police agencies in 1978 (White House Police, Washington DC police, Panama Canal Zone Police and if I remember correctly Bureau of Indian Affairs Police dropping the CZ Police soon after per the Canal Zone Giveaway Treat. plus other Law Enforcement entities such as Secret Service, FBI, federal Marshals and Border Patrol then rapidly started adding Park Police, Department of Defense Police, Post Office Police, Forest Service Police and a number of others in almost every federal department. White House Police became uniformed division of the Secret Service. And finally the DOHS protective echelon. Under all administrations regardless if left or right wing of the Government Party.

    Comment Two. The only verified statistics show that one percent of all police in all classifications of crime have committed criminal acts which is the same one percent of all general population who commit criminal acts in ALL classifications of crime. The rest is propaganda, media hype and hate speech. The problem is one of a hundred is too much no matter what the classification of crime is too much when law enforcement is one of the two main reasons for government to exist.

    Compare one of a hundred in your mind to one of a hundred cars on the free way with a drunk or drugged up driver, or one feeling road rage or one with a mechanically unsafe vehicle and you are in one of those little enclosed plastic go karts - all traveling 20 over the speed limit. Kind of the free way version of getting off at the wrong neighborhood.

    Comment Three - However with the advent of a new Department with powers not granted that nullify the Bill of Rights the potential for such activities is heightened to unacceptable levels. I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling of security when a part of government has been exempted from the Constitution and the Constitution itself is being ignored by the Oval Office amongst others. Nor did I appreciate being tried and sentenced to the antics of TSA for the crimes of someone else - along with the entire nation.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago
    The IRS and the Big Brother alphabet soup of all those way too many other federal departments and agencies are currently the willing tools of his most corrupt royal Marxist-In-Chief excellency, the esteemed 2013 Lie of the Year Winner, El Presidebte O'Pinocchio, the most self-proclaimed transparent One to stick a last brick into Pink Floyd's The Wall.
    All of those regime supporting replaceable (career job-scared?) servants are there for the Constitution-despising king's pleasure. Need more be explained?
    Every once in a while little ole' retired me will send Judaical Watch a few bucks.
    Why not? RINOs won't do anything about crimes committed against We The People by the IRS or even by a dangerous potential president like Benghazi Killary.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago
      Dino, you are spot on. We in the gulch are considered outcasts and "non conformist" by the empire. Both parties are the opposite of the same coin, but still the same coin...I'm waiting for GW to be replaced by BHO or MLK soon, just because...
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 8 years, 10 months ago
    I just read an article about the IRS and an anti-IRS activist. Now I don't know whether she is correct in her assessment of who is really required to file tax returns (her husband created a documentary on the IRS and claims to have stumped the Director with asking for law concerning what legal statute or laws it has to enforce it directives), but I do believe she is going to jail for a very scary reason. Apparently the IRS has claimed she has filed falsified tax returns. So they called her into IRS court and presented her with an IRS filled out return. They ordered her to sign the return and she refused. She was ordered by the judge to do it and she said she would if she could add that she was signing under duress. The judge refused this and again ordered her to sign. She refused and was held in contempt and sentenced to 18 month in prison. Now I believe if I were in that same position, I would have to do the same thing since signing a tax return states "Under penalty of perjury" that everything included was true to the best of your knowldge. Well I am not signing anything that I didn't prepare (or hired a lawyer to prepare for me) if I am under threat of perjury.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago
      Indeed. And I can tell you, perjury is as flaccid as all the rest of the laws. My neighbor lost a case and tried bankruptcy. He was wildly fraudulent, and the Federal Attorney told me since there was only one claiment (me) that that was not worth pursuing. So, when I told him "now that you have defined small perjury, what is big, 2,3,4 or 5 claimants?", "How much perjury do you need?" He hung up. She needs a good lawyer. I think a lot of us may need good lawyers sometime in the future..just to escape their machinations. Like that case.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago
    When Ordered to consign to the Law of the Land, this administration and every government agency simply ignores the order, delays, shuffle their feet and ends up not having to comply. Is the court of our land that weak? Is the courts of our land complicit? If that were a private business or you and I...we'd be in jail. As I understand it, the irs is not beholden to our constitution...no more than the federal reserve.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago
      Says something about the state of the country and that people continue to stand for it. Soon it becomes the norm, then they get really nasty...A lot like the plot of AS eh?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago
    2nd amendment is inadequate to protect against this level of government fraud and deceit.

    This is the real zombie apocalypse. As the government zombies come to eat the country's providers, until nothing but zombies remain.
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  • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 10 months ago
    "Skirmish"? I think that word says it all. One would think that the underlying implication that "contempt of court" has different meanings for different kinds of entities would aggravate the left and the right equally.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    There is a reason the Supreme Court and the Justice Department have Federal Marshals. Issue a warrant and bring them in wearing hand cuffs and leg irons. But then the Congress blew them off on the Insider Trading issue too and the Prez routinely does a similar job on all of us including the principal guardians of the Constitution so may be it's time time to think about an Amendment term limiting the court. Or at least requiring one with a set of big brass ones.
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    • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 10 months ago
      Why are we depending on the court to straighten things out, when we elected the bastards who enacted the legislation without reading it?!?
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
        Yup hoping once in a while they get embarrassed and have to flex their judicial muscles. Just like Repiresentatives. "Are you goioung to vote for me?"

        Why should I remember when I asked for help getting my army papers from St. Louis? If a G- nothing clerk can blow you off what good are you.? With Senators and Representative you threaten their votes. Court you embarrass them . fhe other two you vote None of the above and send a torn up cancelled voided unsigned check on a closed account to the campaign fund. Unless it's bank america they will cash it anyway and hit your with a loan payment.
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