You can repeat it til hell freezes over; it translates to the simple fact that you're a coward who'd rather belittle the beliefs of others than put his own on the line for judgment.

I'm neither ashamed nor embarrassed by my religious convictions, why shouldn't I bring them up?

Religious faith isn't a fashion statement.

STOP STALKING ME
That's twice you've called me a liar with no proof to back up your accusation.

Once upon a time, in a whole bunch of States, white men could legally own black men. Didn't make it moral. And didn't make it binding in the other States (which helped lead to the Confederate War...)

Your comment about pairs of homosexuals engaging in a meaningless civil ceremony to celebrate a legal contract does not relate at all to anything I said in the message to which you've replied.

Wow. You're so wrong, it's hard to know where to begin.

>> The "never did nothing to us" bit is getting old.

When you cannot refute the facts, you try to denigrate them. 2+2+4 is "old", but it's still true.
And when you're really out of your depth you try to make it an emotional discussion. Why else the references to "hate", "ignorance" and "moral outrage"?

Let's look at the record:

For starters, our excuse to get into Vietnam was the "Gulf of Tonkin [non] Incident". Which turned out to be a government lie. But as a pretext for war, it worked just fine.

The excuse for Iraq was "Weapons of Mass Destruction" - which also turned out to be a lie.

The excuse for Libya was that we were bombing Libya to save Libyans. Right?
Is that where the nerve gas (the excuse O-Bomb-Ya! wanted to use to attack Syria) actually came from?

Japan finally attacked US in desperation (after we embargoed their supply of steel, froze Japanese assets and cut off their supply of oil.)

Some people just can't see the logical fallacy of going after "WMD" in Iraq, "Saving the people" in Vietnam and Libya and the saber-rattling over Iran possibly getting a nuke some day, while North Korea continues to starve its own people while possessing nukes!

It's... all... a... big... LIE!

The US Government FUNDED bin Laden

Afghanistan was invaded in a quest for bin Laden and company. A quick end to the operation wasn't what the administration had in mind, else they would have sent SpecOps units instead of the whole freaking military. No, we needed a much longer operation. You know, like Iraq, the longest war in our Nation's history. Afghanistan was only tangentially about bin Laden.

Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex for specifically the reasons cited above. The government creates wars which creates the need for materiel. The war-profiteers fill the need for materiel getting rich in the process. They contribute to politicians who then vote for more wars. It has nothing to do with idealogy and everything to do with money and corruption.

Actually they are quite popular.

Check out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Ga...

But other christians do. If you affiliate yourself as christian you are part of it.

Just like Bishop Spong claims to be christian.

None of the above, and as I explained I don't discuss my religious beliefs in these environments.

I don't want someone missing out on what is right for them because they don't like me and associate that with the religion. I don't want someone following me because they like me and might miss what's right for them.

How often do I need to repeat that?

On the other hand you consistently bring your religion up.

Hey, easy with the racist remarks.

Yes, the soaproot is wonderful. And you should try the tree hams.They're best when picked straight from the tree. And there's no bag limit. You can keep as many as you can harvest.

And yes, I'm aware of your citation of The Marching Morons. But do you really feel so compelled to demonstrate it here, so frequently?

There goes Hiraghm again with a falsehood.

In fact in a whole bunch of states same sex couples can now be legally married. It's got nothing to do with religion. It's a civic ceremony. If any preacher doesn't want to marry folks he doesn't have to but a civil servant (JP, Judge, elected official) must perform for all comers.

No, if it is taken without payment, it is *theft*.

So you're saying that if the plantation owners paid the slaves in the antebellum South, it wouldn't have been slavery?

Well, they did pay the slaves; they provided the slaves room and board, medical attention.. they financed every aspect of the slaves' lives.

So obviously, those slaves weren't slaves.

Hospitals were invented by Catholics.
Try the Folsom Street Fair for a modern exposure to how hateful and disruptive homosexuals are against Christians in America today.

Actually the Catholic Hospitals are excellent except for one factor.

Try "GodHatesFags.com" for a modern exposure to how hateful and disruptive christians are against gays in America today.

Actually, the biggest, the strongest, and the smartest guys will not always be the same person.

Which is why it's the *smartest* guy in the group who will kill whomever he wishes for whatever reason, or no reason at all.

Nope. He will be remunerated for his effort. If it were taken without it being paid for (as Reardon was stolen from when he had to give up his companies) then it is slavery.

But ONLY if he wasn't paid for his effort can you call it "slavery."

Not a lot of off-the-shelf wedding cakes have groom-and-groom on top.

Not at all just like Hiraghm. I don't disrupt the funerals of our honored dead to promote my religious beliefs.

There's nothing wrong with the Westboro Baptist church people believing, or even proclaiming that "God hates fags".

What is wrong is their persecution of the families of fallen soldiers and treasonous acts.

So Hiraghm, you say: "That bit of flesh there... its function is to make babies."

Oh, are you going to tell a wounded war vet that because he got shot "there" that he can't marry? Are you going to tell a post menopausal woman she can't marry? If someone is injured in a traffic accident and they can't reproduce are you going to take away their ability to marry?

Sheesh... Laws apply EQUALLY to all Americans and you can't exclude some from a CIVIL contract because they lack a certain ability.

Remember, religion has NOTHING to do with marriage. Atheists can marry in America.

Then what are you? You keep referring to "your god" and failing to properly capitalize His name. So what are you, if not an atheist? (we've already established that you're a spoiled child delighting in tweaking the noses of the grownups in the room).

Wiccan, perhaps? Scientologist?

Your excuse is clear. Don't attempt to presume to attack anyone else's beliefs when you are too cowardly to put yours on the line.

I don't have to.
He doesn't have to justify his preferences for doing business.

I was explaining to you what, according to the Christian belief system, would be the anticipated result of his supporting an abomination such as two males pretending to get married.

If you want proof of life after death... suicide. You'll be more convinced than by anything I could say.

So, are we to presume that you would approve of Nazi bakers who have ovens in America.

That's like saying that Mercedes has a new microwave oven that seats six. It's just nonsense.

Now, please try to pay attention. Nazis are such by choice. Gays have no such choice. They are created by that there christian god you seem to believe in.

Further, if you want in any way to show us that it is a choice you can set an example. If you will have homosexual relations for a year by choice and then choose women again I'm sure you have a chance to convince someone that homosexuality is a "choice."

That would be a great community service in spreading the word that such is a "choice." Isn't community service a great christian thing to do?

STOP STALKING ME.

"BTW, what makes it different than any other holy book? "

What other holy book? You mean the Old Testament? Well, as I understand it, the New Testament deals mostly with Christ and His time on Earth, whereas the Old Testament is oriented more toward the early history of mankind, particularly God's chosen people.

But, being a shirttail Christian, I can't describe them better than that.

Again, what difference has vorpal blade made in your life?

STOP STALKING ME.

Same sex marriage doesn't exist.

so, Bobo, where's your defense of slithy toves, hmm? Did they really gyre and gimbal in the wabe, or was that all just made up by the media to cover up a greater conspiracy on the part of the fumious Bandersnatch?

I'm sure I've cited that no fewer than three times.

Not that the MM was necessarily the "first".

Been to Venus lately?