Here we go...again...

Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Greetings, fellow strikers. I am new to The Gulch. At least this one. I was fortunate to discover the fictional one in 1969. This is my first post, but not my last.

One of the very first posts I read as a new member was on this topic. While it was an informative post from a technical standpoint, I don't think the minutia of IP addresses etc. are really relevant to the issue, and are in fact a (perhaps intentional) distraction.

I believe this article is more to the important points, even more so in that it shows the beginnings of what I felt to be the almost certain classic Clintonian response. I claim no special savant status there, as Clinton damage control responses are as predictable as a bad sitcom.

To be more specific, I believe there is enough evidence, hard, real evidence based on past Clinton scandals to suggest that Hillary knew precisely what she was doing when she set up a private email server, and it had nothing to do with "convenience", and everything to do with knowingly maintaining the secrecy of her correspondence. Note that my use of the term secrecy vs. private is conscious and intentional

Call me a romantic, but I prefer to see things as they can be and should be, not simply the way they are.

What Hillary SHOULD have done is what every other honest employee of an organization, be it government or private, does: for work emails, use the system provided by your employer.

What Hillary did do would be unacceptable for mere mortals, and reeks of someone, again, wanting to keep secrets. Does anyone, except some really naive and trusting people, believe that those 55,000 emails she wants released represent all of the emails the public has a right to see? I really don't think so.

There will be more on this story and other things to post I'm sure. But I think the telling fact in this article is the beginning of the line that the server contains both official and private emails, and golly gee whiz, I'll be the one to decide what's released, and "this server will remain private". It is that last point that we must keep, and have a right to keep, from happening.

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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 2 months ago
    Well, being above the law is why making laws restricting the rights of mortals doesn't phase these people. They are the elite.

    Conservatives should paint them with this brush to the middle class
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years, 2 months ago
    Well in private sector she would be fired from her job. In government she will be required to say basically f-off and leave me alone a few times and then be all good again.

    This is why I am all ready tired of this subject.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 2 months ago
    Its pretty obvious that she wanted to hide/destroy something that might be damaging to her "career"
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 2 months ago
    The part she - and the media - are trying to ignore is that she acted in direct contravention of the Open Records law which REQUIRED her in her official capacity to maintain copies of ALL official correspondence.

    She should be tried and convicted and thrown in federal prison. It's as simple as that.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 2 months ago
    She used personal email so she could hide/destroy any emails she didnt want anyone to see. Does she think I am STUPID not to see this? She is a liar and useless.
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  • Posted by frankjackfiamingo 9 years, 2 months ago
    Voting for a Clinton OR a Bush Is akin to bending over and saying "Thank you sir, may I have another".
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 2 months ago
    LOL... its simple, she can't do fundraising solicitations on government computer systems - so 'for convenience' she used her own, rather than carry two, or embarrassingly commit multiple felonies under the federal campaign practices laws.

    She says that it was "an email system acquired for the former president". Yeah, right, all he does in an official capacity is attend funerals and weddings. The DNS MX record for the domain points to 1and1.com mail servers... it's "private" but its a private Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) small business type offering from 1and1.com - probably with a small biz hosting web site. deal. Not much more than GoDaddy for $10 a month. That's why she's being vague and cryptic.

    Can she trust EVERYONE at 1and1 to not access something as juicy as emails sent/received by a sitting US Secretary of State? It's absurd. She should be facing charges.

    It's also entirely likely that she was using a non-secure email client platform, like POP3 or IMAP... also greatly risking cyber security. It's a certainty that multiple other state-sponsored intelligence agencies had deeply-penetrated her email account. Since she was probably copied on a boatload of emails not even specifically to her, they would have been seeing pretty much everything going on at the State Department.

    If this was anyone else, there would be handcuffs involved, that is for certain.



    Scotts-MacBook-Air:~ Scott$ nslookup
    > set q=any
    > clintonmail.com
    Server: 8.8.8.8
    Address: 8.8.8.8#53

    Non-authoritative answer:
    clintonmail.com mail exchanger = 10 mx00.1and1.com.
    clintonmail.com has AAAA address 2607:f1c0:1000:603a:28e2:dbd8:eb1d:d002
    clintonmail.com
    origin = ns51.1and1.com
    mail addr = hostmaster.1and1.com
    serial = 2012101901
    refresh = 28800
    retry = 7200
    expire = 604800
    minimum = 1800
    clintonmail.com nameserver = ns51.1and1.com.
    clintonmail.com nameserver = ns52.1and1.com.
    clintonmail.com mail exchanger = 10 mx01.1and1.com.
    Name: clintonmail.com
    Address: 198.71.53.150

    Authoritative answers can be found from:
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  • Posted by jimslag 9 years, 2 months ago
    In Clinton speak, it is "Nothing to see here, just move on." That is all you get from them, doesn't matter Bill or Hillary, one wears pants, the other pantsuits but the contents of them still think they are better than everybody else.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Provided the press remains on their side. I'm shocked that the New York Times seems to be taking the lead on this one and MSNBC hosts have criticized her as well. Could just be that they want to say they vetted her properly but it could be they just don't want her getting the nomination. Should be interesting.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 9 years, 2 months ago
    Yep, same story different day. obama learned about it on the news, and hilarity clinton is above the law. It's all so predictable that they don't even have to TRY and tell good lies any longer.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 2 months ago
    If it follows the same pattern of former Clinton scandals she will lay low for a while and then claim she has answered all the questions and that it is old news.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 2 months ago
    Here we go ..again...... and it doesn't seem to matter at all. Certain people can do anything they want, no matter how illegal, immoral, and unethical and it's a-ok! Hillary Clinton is one of those people
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 2 months ago
    2016 is the GOP wing of the DemRep party's turn to hold the office of POTUS.
    If it was the Dem's turn the media would not be covering this at all.
    This is nothing but circuses to distract the sheep from the tightening circle of the wolves.
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  • Posted by sdesapio 9 years, 2 months ago
    But then she would have to "carry two devices." Because... you know... it's impossible to have two email addresses on a single device.

    Yep, my head was about to explode right there. The two devices thing just... wow.

    Welcome the the Gulch Minor.
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