"Cowboy Express" reaches Washington, DC
Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 6 months ago to News
These 11 ranchers and farmers rode cross country to DC, with their saddlebags stuffed with petitions collected along the way. They made stops in Utah, Nevada and Kansas and met with some tribal nations to bring these by horseback to the nation's Capitol.
They are petitioning their congressmen to address very serious concerns, stemming from abuse by BLM'S agents. These range from blocking grazing lands for which they have permits, and on privately owned land which the gov shouldn't have any say in.
It seems like they have done this with a lot of thought, and clearly a tremendous amount of time and energy. May their efforts not be in vain.
They are petitioning their congressmen to address very serious concerns, stemming from abuse by BLM'S agents. These range from blocking grazing lands for which they have permits, and on privately owned land which the gov shouldn't have any say in.
It seems like they have done this with a lot of thought, and clearly a tremendous amount of time and energy. May their efforts not be in vain.
11 days!!! I cannot begin to express my anxiety over what may transpire for the senate races...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMKO_9SD...
Have a great weekend!
Those cowboys shoulda been arrested for letting their horses eat grass along highways they did not build.
https://www.google.com/search?q=osha+cow...
and boy howdy did it make the rounds!!! -- j
Here is a PBS Frontlines documentary “For The Good Of All” on the National Park Service from 1982 http://www.landrights.org/VideoGoodOfAll...
... and a shorter, 11 mininute documentary on the same NPS assault on private property owners “In Condemnation, The Cuyahoga Valley” http://www.landrights.org/VideoInCondemn... (This won an amateur film award.)
For the history of the collectivization of grazing and water rights in the west (and what is left of them) read Wayne Hage, Storm Over Rangelands: Private Rights in Federal Lands, 3rd ed 1994 http://www.amazon.com/Storm-over-Rangela...
Harold Steen, ed, The Origins of the National Forests, 1992 http://www.amazon.com/Origins-National-F... (inadvertently) reveals how statism and collectivization of the Federal Lands, which had previously been available for settlement, were the dominant intellectual ideas of public policy makers by the late 1800s at the beginning of the progressive movement.
Ron Arnold, Trashing the Economy: How Runaway Environmentalism is Wrecking America http://www.amazon.com/Trashing-Economy-R... comprehensively documents the viro movement.
On the other hand, it is a spectacular grandstanding effort and a laudable cause.
Jan, sometime horsewoman
The most concise info I found on how far horses travel under various conditions was on a cartography website! I include it below for those who are interested:
On Roads / trails
Level or rolling terrain: 40
Hilly terrain: 30
Mountainous terrain: 20
Off-Road (or unkempt trails etc)
Level/rolling grasslands: 30
Hilly grasslands: 25
Level/rolling forest/thick scrub: 20
Very hilly forest/thick scrub: 15
Un-blazed Mountain passes: 10
Marshland: 10
Assumptions
An average quality horse, of a breed suitable for riding, conditioned for overland travel and in good condition.
Roads and trails are in good condition and up kept by whatever local authority deals with them.
Weather is good to fair, and travelers are riding for around ten hours a day.
Notes
Halve these distances for a horse pulling a cart or for a very heavily laden horse (e.g. a fully armoured knight who insists on wearing his armour all day rather than having it stowed on a second baggage horse as would be normal!).
Add half again for specially trained horses and riders who are prepared to push hard (rangers, scouts and messangers, etc...) though do bear in mind that horses cannot be pushed like this for more than a few days at a time. You can add a bit more again to this distance if the breed of horse is exceptionally suitable for this sort of thing, but I’d say 2 to 2.5 times the base is the absolute maximum without some sort of magical assistance!
Poor weather such as heavy rain or wind should reduce distances by about one quarter, and very poor conditions like heavy snow or gale force winds, etc.. should reduce distances by at least half if not more.
Finding a place to ford a small river or swimming your horse across a larger river should knock a couple of miles off the day’s journey, other unique obstacles might have a similar reduction. (as a guide remember a horse walks at around 4 miles per hour (compared to a human average of around 2.5 - 3mph) so if the obstacle takes half an hour to deal with thats a couple of miles lost.
Out of interest
The Tevis cup is a 100-mile-in-one-day competition which goes over some quite rugged and mountainous trail terrain in the western states of USA... but they do it on very special arab horses, with little or no baggage and even the winning times are usually around 17 hours! link
Jan
This conversation reminds me of the movie "Hidalgo." I remember it as a very memorable film about an amazing and seemingly impossible long distance horse race. I remember it starred Viggo Mortenson and Omar Shariff. Very moving..
Regards,
O.A.
The short answer is that 'you were right'. They did as you suggested.
Jan
For you to start your weekend- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPRjCeoBq...
Have a great one!
EVER..
"‘Grass March’ Turned Out to Be Final Ride for Original Sagebrush Rebel" http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/31/grass-...
Be sure to watch the Big Park video he helped to produce satirizing the National Park Service policy of assaulting private property owners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvAB6DA...
What is your favorite...crack, acid, or mushrooms?
Hey! I just got back from a nice walk with my granddaughter - wore her out, so she's taking a nap right now! Thought I'd check out what's happening on the forum this a.m. Interesting comments about horses, freedom, and racism!!! What a mix - actually they DON'T mix, contrary to your comment! You mentioned you never met a libertarian who is not a racist .... well, let me introduce myself to you. I have been a libertarian since before the first libertarian convention which I attended in 1972, during which time I met John Hospers, the first libertarian presidential candidate. Fast forward to 2008, where you would find me (and my Anglo cousin and her African American husband) with about 14,000 other freedom lovers, marching down Constitution Avenue to hear Ron Paul (and other patriots) speak on the lawn of the capitol. So, for over 40 years, I have proudly been a libertarian who loves freedom for all!!! Unlike you, I have never met a libertarian who IS a racist - sounds like a contradiction in terms to me! Well, must run now and check on "the love of my life" - my 5 year old African American granddaughter, who isn't libertarian (yet!), but also happens to be color blind. Just saying ...
I am certainly not trying to be contentious ... just letting you know that, even though you haven't met me in person, I DO exist ... as do numerous others who are of the same persuasion. When you made a blanket statement that you'd never met a libertarian who isn't racist, I wanted to be the proverbial kid in the back of the class who raised her hand and said, "Then meet me! I am both a libertarian AND make no judgements on the basis of race.". That's all. I will not honor your statement about Ron Paul or his son since you offered no evidence, anyway. I genuinely hope you have a nice day, too ... and may the best card player win the game : )
Perhaps you should get out more. Ron and Rand... evidence?
Respectfully,
O.A.
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You can find smears based on newsletters written for him that he has denounced and claims to have been ignorant of at the time. What you cannot find is him speaking anything racist in his own words. Quite the contrary...Innocent until proven guilty...
Generalizations ... Accusations without sound evidence must be challenged. I do not mind being proven wrong and changing my mind. I welcome it.