Is the Gulch possible in 2023?
I don't mean politically or where would the land come from, etc. I'm talking simply about feasibility and resources, human and otherwise. I'm referring to his maxim about doing the minimum you can (in the outside world) to sustain yourself, not "work for the looters", etc. Certainly in 1957 I would say impossible. Personally I disagree slightly with this part of Galt's (Rand's? I tend to use them interchangeably) philosophy. If I do better for myself, I'm working for myself and enjoying the benefits. As long as I'm not working free out of pure altruism for someone else, I don't see what the harm is IMHO. But back to the point...
We are not supposed to do anything that "supports the looters" which I take to mean just about any commerce in the outside world. If that's the case then to pull off an Atlantis in real life, it would have to be 100% self-sustaining. Just thinking of the movie since that's more modern, don't phones still have to come from the outside? Some building materials? Is there a hospital in the Gulch? Are there farms sufficient to make food production completely self-sustaining? Also the use of gold. I understand Galt said that Dagny was "broke" because she didn't carry around gold with her. Does that mean any gold from outside the gulch is no good? How would one notice the difference? Does that mean every coin was mined from within the gulch? There's still an exchange rate where one could buy gold on the outside and bring it in (personally I'd be for expanding the currency to silver and copper too for small purchases, but I digress...)
So to maintain the Gulch would require being 100% self-sustaining requiring no good, product, service, or raw material from the outside world. In 2023, unlike 1957, I think this IS theoretically possible since I believe there are enough producers from all industries necessary to survive. But I don't know if I can say the same for raw materials. There would have to be someone who has the skill and physical resources to build technology, lay telephone lines, put up cell towers, manufacture the phones and tablets and computers, enough farms to provide fruit, meat, and dairy for everyone. Hospital and medical/specialist services. Tall order. I think this is all in THEORY possible, whereas we could find enough producers to cover every field. A tech company like Samsung may have Galtian employees (Quentin Daniels types) but would they be able to produce the same in the Gulch? Would they have the facilities? The materials? Unless I'm getting Galt's philosophy wrong, his ideals in the Gulch would be next to impossible because at some point something must be needed from outside.
Thoughts?
We are not supposed to do anything that "supports the looters" which I take to mean just about any commerce in the outside world. If that's the case then to pull off an Atlantis in real life, it would have to be 100% self-sustaining. Just thinking of the movie since that's more modern, don't phones still have to come from the outside? Some building materials? Is there a hospital in the Gulch? Are there farms sufficient to make food production completely self-sustaining? Also the use of gold. I understand Galt said that Dagny was "broke" because she didn't carry around gold with her. Does that mean any gold from outside the gulch is no good? How would one notice the difference? Does that mean every coin was mined from within the gulch? There's still an exchange rate where one could buy gold on the outside and bring it in (personally I'd be for expanding the currency to silver and copper too for small purchases, but I digress...)
So to maintain the Gulch would require being 100% self-sustaining requiring no good, product, service, or raw material from the outside world. In 2023, unlike 1957, I think this IS theoretically possible since I believe there are enough producers from all industries necessary to survive. But I don't know if I can say the same for raw materials. There would have to be someone who has the skill and physical resources to build technology, lay telephone lines, put up cell towers, manufacture the phones and tablets and computers, enough farms to provide fruit, meat, and dairy for everyone. Hospital and medical/specialist services. Tall order. I think this is all in THEORY possible, whereas we could find enough producers to cover every field. A tech company like Samsung may have Galtian employees (Quentin Daniels types) but would they be able to produce the same in the Gulch? Would they have the facilities? The materials? Unless I'm getting Galt's philosophy wrong, his ideals in the Gulch would be next to impossible because at some point something must be needed from outside.
Thoughts?
my reply ? Because you can’t, but you can just keep parroting the MSM garbage.
(And steal elections to insure they maintain power to crush all sane opposition.)
Please look at these three Q drops and tell me what you specifically have an issue with in these Q posts that you describe as a psyop.
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HOW DO YOU AMPLIFY A DESIRED THEME-NARRATIVE?
MSDNC controls what you see [digital echo].
Twitter - FB - GOOG control what you see and what trends [digital echo].
Hollywood ['stars'] swarm to enforce ['trend' echo].
Blue checkmarks swarm to enforce [digital echo].
ANTIFA swarm to enforce [non_digital echo].
Rage and emotion follow by those indoctrinated [echo controlled].
Define 'indoctrinate'.
to often repeat an idea or belief to someone in order to persuade them to accept it
Next: grab 'rage & emotion' [organized platform(s)] by indoctrinated and project as 'majority' [zoom and enhance _narrow focus as mainstream].
System of control.
Many choose the path of least resistance.
For many you cannot tell them the truth.
You must show them.
Only at the PRECIPICE will people find the will [strength] to change and break the system of control [be free].
Q
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Jun 04, 2020 3:39:26 PM EDT
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Important to understand.
ONLY AT THE PRECIPICE [moment of destruction] WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.
Q
Wealth (over generations) buys power.
Power (over generations) buys more wealth/control.
More wealth/control buys countries and its people.
Families combined (TRI) = NWO.
Inner TRI families will collapse.
What is the keystone?
What Nation dominates all others?
What Nation has influence over most others?
What is the keystone?
Return to SA.
Strings cut (+++).
Puppets (+++) in shadows.
Each side of the triangle controls a certain subsect of power brokers.
Power brokers are also labeled as the puppets/servants.
What is the New World Order?
Why did POTUS receive a sword dance when visiting SA?
What does this mean culturally?
Why is this relevant?
What occurred in SA?
How did POTUS remove one side of the pyramid?
What did POTUS receive while visiting China?
Where did POTUS dine?
What is the significance?
What if China, Russia, and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
Who controls NK?
Who really controls NK?
Who controls several agencies within the US, EU, and abroad?
Why is No Such Agency so vital?
Enormous scale of events currently ongoing.
Why is Russia helping to kill ISIS?
This is not easy to accept nor believe.
Crumbs make bread.
Operations active.
Joint missions underway.
The world is fighting back.
Refer back to graphic.
The Great Awakening.
Snow White.
Iron Eagle.
Jason Bourne (2016)(Dream/CIA).
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Be careful who you are following.
Some are profiting off this movement.
Some are building a big following off this movement only then to retreat and go mainstream.
Patriots make sacrifices.
Some, the ultimate sacrifice.
Patriots are SELFLESS.
Do they ask for monthly payments to remain Patriots?
Think logically.
To some, it’s only about the money.
Those who would seek personal gain at the expense of others in this movement has an agenda.
You decide.
This is not a game.
The only profit we should all be striving for is TRUE FREEDOM.
God bless you all.
Q
The plan is simply for Americans to wake up and take back our rights. The most common theme among those who claim Q is a psyop is Q kept Patriots from fighting back against the tyrants. Well he sure didn’t stop stop you and the others who make that claim what is your or their excuse then?
You obviously have not spent anytime doing your own discernment on this “psyop”. The enemy has written thousands of stories “debunking Q. They do follow Q and are scared shitless of all their corruption being exposed. That is a psyop against them. Q has nothing to do with Proud boys or Oath keepers. Q was never going to reveal any specific details or the timing of the operation.
Many folks thought they knew when arrests would occur by using their own interpretation of Q’s drops
They were wrong and because they were wrong, Q according to them lost credibility. Too bad , the Great awakening is still happening and that was Q’s main objective. As far as timing goes Q has said numerous times that before people find the will to change and throw off a tyrannical government they have to reach the precipice.
That precipice is fast approaching.
That fact pattern screams to me that the deep state are the ones running the psy-op, for the same reasons they are running (and probably created!) the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, and Antifa and BLM.
FBI's plan is always the same: arrange for an apparent crime to happen through agents provocateurs and entrapment, and arrest and frame anyone who even contributes funds. Lather, rinse, repeat. That's FBI's modus operandi since at least the reign of J. Edgar Hoover. FBI has not become corrupted, it always was.
The ancient technologies hidden from us for so long have to be forced out into the open. We know they exist. What are euphemistically called "UFO's" are of our own creation. The Germans were working on this technology as early as the 1930's. (Nazi Bell program) Tesla was ground into obscurity because he tried to free the masses. Moray was was assaulted, shot at, his lab repeatedly burned down his family members threatened.. until he got the message: surrender or die.
It’s fine to have armed agents for so called financial crimes but not for violent crimes against the chattel. These things need to be seen, you can’t tell anyone.
Fox parting with Tucker is simply because they can not have the truth told and Tucker was becoming a truth teller. He is very wealthy and That means he is harder to control. Lots of people eat Pizza and until seven years ago I had no idea it was a Peedo term. Very likely 95% have never heard of the connection.
Trump actually has a strong history of charitable acts. Maxwell and other criminals hide behind organizations like Save the Children. Trump would donate to a cause like that and if attending any dinner , I am sure Epstien would try to rub shoulders so to speak. Trump did kick him out of Mara Lago and did assist in the 2009 case against Epstein and no other well known people did that. For me Trump is the man and I Stand with him
Same with Tucker Carlson.
They said Tucker was a Comet Pizza consumer.
My challenge is that if "I" ran the deep state, I would try to catch "GOOD" people with casual connections (ie, they just walked in), and PAINT them as though they could be insiders within that system.
First, this damages their brand, causes people to doubt them, which gives you power over them. Second, it creates "What about-ism" protection. And finally, it adds to the obfuscation of the truth, which is the absolute requirement.
I don't trust Hannity, Beck. I even have some doubts about Alex Jones.
Dr. Shiva points out the concept of "The NOT so obvious Insider"... To which he claims Ghandi was one. Again, this makes a lot of sense. Take an american educated person, and back them silently.
I have hope. But I've learned LONG ago that I can only have unshakeable faith in core beliefs, and not beliefs about people... Because so many have let me down. Especially in hindsight (including Ron Paul for missing the chance to tell us to BLOCK the Federal Reserve Renewal. He was willingly silenced in exchange to boost his sons prominence. And Ronald Reagan who could have destroyed the Public Unions as well has NOT granting Amnesty UNTIL AFTER the laws were change. We lost CA after him)
I have a low opinion of so many talking heads that it doesn’t take much to be better than most . That said , Beck is in the neighborhood of Hannity and Tucker, probably a rung or two up the ladder from them. Lou Dobbs is near the top of that ladder imo. When Glen Beck said I don’t believe in Pizzagate , it begs the Q uestion . You don’t believe in the story the MSM has told you or you don’t believe children are bought and sold by a network in DC ,the District of Corruption? So the story was children are being trafficked out of Comet Pizza’s basement .A Tony Podesta hang out , the owner is the Faggotpeedo partner to the founder of Media Matters David Brock. So the conspiracy theory was debunked when the msm asked James Alfontis if he is trafficking kids from the restaurants basement. Alfontis said there wasn’t a basement. Nuff said hmmm. Except an article a year earlier during harvest of tomatoes as a promotional piece, the photo and caption was making sauce from scratch in the basement of Comet Pizza. It’s not so much that Beck didn’t look into it , it is someone who clearly sees the Evil these deletes will do and yet apply their own personal bias to how Evil some demons are. I mean healthy skepticism is fine but these deletes have shown again and again life means nothing to them if it’s not their own. Liz Crokin has laid the Pizzagate scandal wide open. At any rate Whitney also agrees with my posting for years that Technocracy is the objective for the NWO Nazi not New. Thanks for sharing. I have mixed emotions when all of what I have been talking about is confirmed. I so wish I was wrong.
In my view, the best way to be in a strong position when it happens is to purge your life of all the conveniences you can that carry surveillance of you as part of their prices -- your credit and debit cards, your cell phone, your TV, any "smart" appliances if you have them, your car if it has OnStar or any GPS technology. Use cash and carry cash, and if possible, carry a means to protect it and yourself. Trust only people you know and live in a community that feels the same way and won't rat you out when SHTF.
In other words, my "Gulch" would look a lot like the Amish community.
And avoid believing in boogeymen. "CBDC" is one -- because it's so much easier, and achieves the same result, for surveillance and "social credit scores" to be imposed on you through tech companies and banks who can tell a court you used their services voluntarily.
I agree we must weaken the enemy.
Stop paying taxes and 'emergency powers' will be invoked.
Stop buying at Walmart and there is no emergency.
I think it's the only peaceful way at a grassroots level to have a positive effect against
the evil and corrupt who have high level political pull.
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