If someone considers you their enemy (the ruling class, in this case), it would behoove you to consider them as your enemy, if you want to survive and not be enslaved or destroyed by the enemy. Properly recognizing (and evaluating) your enemy is always the first step in a successful procecution of any war.

I agree. All police have become is a paramilitary force, which is being used against the citizenry (which is in violation of law!). We have become the persecuted and the prosecuted. If you ever have to interface with them, advise them that you are with "Cop Watch" and get their badge number and all information pertaining to the reason that you were forced to deal with them. I have, and have filed reports. Search for Cop Watch and download whatever information you deem helpful from their web site.

I'm still to be convinced whether or not the US can be redeemed (and I don't mean in the religious sense).

The government has grown beyond all constitutional limits and needs to be rolled way back, *and* as someone says in Part 2, they have gone out of their way to make everyone a criminal, so they can persecute whom they want. So unless and until there's real, major reform, we all do need to stop cooperating with law enforcement in any way. Also, never call them for any reason.

A real "Galt's Gulch" in the sense of a country where we can build our thing would be a better answer, but there isn't any. Yet.

In the meantime, yes, remember who the real enemy is, but not to try to get even. Just to avoid helping them is enough for now.

I am not miserable. I am angry that you ignore reality. Wake up.

"I'm talking about name-calling, carrying on, and acting like a disgruntled gov't worker..."

A person is not a "good guy" just because he considers himself one, or considers himself a producer. There is an objective standard by which a person can be judged.

"I am always productive."
Why are you so miserable and nasty? I talk about other great times in history and how you can still live in a great time and be outraged that we squander the opportunity to be even better and use that outrage as motivation to fight to stop the squandering. You just write a bunch of nasty stuff. You're not miserable and angry b/c of some guy you've never met.

+1.

This is denying reality....thinking you're moral when your actions promote evil. "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality". AR

Yes and you are on the side of looters

I am always productive. mr glass half full, do you work as hard as you can to denounce the evil all around you? or do you go along and get along...thrill at the prospect of a govt printing press...use valuable resources to not once but TWICE help elect a destroyer for President? be proud as you tell your sons when they are older you helped heap on debt to their lives..make them slaves

"The battle lines between producers vs. looters and moochers are clear. "
This is false. Most people consider themselves the good guys, and a subset of that is they consider themselves producers. They don't like looters. We hear that quote from hardcore looters taking advantage of the turmoil in Furguson as a good spot to steal b/c the police were occupied with protests. Those hardcore looters wrongly thought they were the good guys.

Most people are not that bad. They seem to think someone else should pay for their needs, but if you showed them that they wouldn't like it. The simple narrative of a struggle between the righteous and the evil is an often-used tool to manipulate people.

"I am outraged DAILY...many times...."
Would you have been less outraged at other times and place, say just after the American Revolution, 16th Century Transylvania where people were free from Catholic dogma, the ancient Greek city-states, the Roman Republic before the Punic wars, the time of the Magna Carta, the Renaissance? Those would be my favorite times.

The Renaissance would be up there for me b/c people were throwing out old dogmas, the printing press was making new ideas available, technology grew allowing hugely increased production, and a mechanistic world view took hold. Take that Renaissance to extreme, where the trick is figuring out what creative material people will want b/c machines can easily do the work of making things for us. Instead of a printing press, give everyone a printing press and ability to share instantly what they create. It's like a Renaissance taken to an absurd extreme such that it realizes the ancient dream of having someone/something to do all the work for us. The next huge ancient dream, going back to Gilgamesh, is a treatment for aging. There are probably more years between us and William Harvey than between us and a partial cure for aging.

Maybe none of that relates to outrage. Maybe you're outraged we're squandering what we have, and you use it to motivate yourself to action.

That's the way I kind of feel about it. If they act appropriately and still treat me with respect I can still be friends, but those that swear at me or call me names, making it personal, I will no longer tolerate, period. I figure they are prejudiced in their beliefs and just do not know why. They love the big "D" but don't know why, it's just because. I've got a lot more friends that are worthy of my friendship and practically all of them agree with me.

Yes, we should be polite in our discourse, but I am under no illusions that liberals/progressives are at all interested in reality until it thwacks them upside the head numerous times with a large no-so-foam clue bat.

There is a difference between the principles of governance and the people in charge of implementing the policy. I still believe in the original principles this nation was founded on, but I believe that the people in charge of safe-guarding those principles have perverted and warped them so that the operational principles of our current government no longer reflect the founding principles at all.

Stupidity is our enemy.

And, that has nothing to do with whether or not somebody agrees with me. People can't form sentences anymore. So many people are looking at their smart phones that when the traffic lights turn green around here the cars all just sit there. We're doomed...

AR's message is widely popular and widely unpopular at the same time. The battle lines between producers vs. looters and moochers are clear.

I am outraged DAILY...many times....

"When people are saying or writing outrageous things, they should be met with outrage. "
If don't think outrage is helpful in promoting liberty b/c there's a whole industry that deals in phony outrage to get attention.

I'm not talking about outrage in the sense of being open in explaining something to someone who asked or showed interest. I'm talking about name-calling, carrying on, and acting like a disgruntled gov't worker.

"No amount of sugar coating can get past a message that offends."
I think AR's message would be widely popular if it were stated clearly. Most of the time when I hear the ideas discussed, by AR supporters and opponents, they are contrary to my understanding of the books.

That just means you have to be very careful where you choose to live if you do so in California. Some sheriffs are *very* pro-constitution, pro 2nd amendment. Ours is. And that's part of the reason we moved here from the SF Bay Area, home of Frau Fineswine and Babs Peloser.

There are, indeed, some places in this state which are worth living in.. a lot of which are trying to secede from the nutcases from Sacramento South and West.