I don't know. To be without armaments is just plain foolish. I agree with fivedollargold in the comment below. Regarding Costa Rica, islands get small, real quick, so, I'd rather stay on a continent with areas to reach out to and explore. Not much to see/do on the island after awhile. Just my opinion.
Hello davidkachel, "Your instincts serve you well...." Obi Wan. I think overmanwarrior is correct Hugo will come along and do as Fidel did. I think it is a real estate sham. O.A.
I knew about this deal in Chili and I think they have the right intent. But I don't think such a place can stay visible in a country like Chili and survive. Right now, I'm sure Chili is willing to give away the kitchen sink to attract a society of wealthy people to leave their countries and plant themsevles in an empty field under their control. It's kind of like a man who will tell a woman anything to get her to sleep with him, without having a plan as to what to say when she discovers that he's not what he sold her the night before. Chili will most likely pull the deal a few years down the road.
alll I see here is a real estate spin on Galts Gulch. and not a very good one at that. the "innovation center" lists medical care opportunities which many expats are concerned about outside the US. self sustained means no services. how did you come across this uncommon?
I was doing a search on my favorite Meta-search engine: Dogpile and that site was near the top. I never saw it before and decided to check it out. I agree with you on the real estate spin. It's just enough to tease, but not enough info to make me inquire more.
Yes, that's true. I'd like to further explore other areas in the states, or buy a sailboat and set my course to "where would you like to go today, honey?".
I like that idea. my husband has canadian cousins who are doing that right now- with their 5 kids. they're off the coast of south africa right now. they do it with a french accent too!
Good evening itisntluck, An idea worthy of further examination. We should compile a list of the pros and cons of each candidate state. Which state is the least objectionable? Regards, O.A.
I think you're getting the medicine man treatment. you don't get island fever? that's my beef. what if everyone on Bora Bora turns out to be boring boring?
No problem. That's when we invite the former Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi to host his infamous "Bunga Bunga" parties on Bora Bora. Suddenly, things won't be boring anymore. :D
You ever hear the bunga bunga joke? 3 guys get captured while roaming through a jungle. First one gets put before the chief, and is asked, "Death or bunga bunga"? The guy doesn't want to die, so chooses bunga bunga. The tribesmen all have their way with him. The second is asked the same question. He also chooses bunga bunga. The chief comes to the third man, and asks, "Death or bunga bunga"? The man has no interest in living through bunga bunga, so chooses death. The chief announces, "Ok. Death! By bunga bunga"!
Yes, the impatience with the Girondins brought about the excesses and repercussions of Robespierre and the Jacobites, and then an even worse status at the hands of people like Vadier, Bilaud-Varenne, Elie Lacoste… Though the people were tired of the terror they were swayed by the same populist, egalitarian arguments we hear. In the end they replaced one tyranny for another. There was a moment in time when they could have moved beyond… When the moment arrives one must take hold and not let go!
You know what bothers me? Who in our current gov't are the Robespierre's/Jacobins Club-types (after the good people had the sense to leave it), Vadier, et al? I can name a few, but it would be interesting to compare todays political moron's and their philosophy and match it with their French counterparts of the late 18th century.
I have relocated to Chile with my husband. We have been here 3 months. My daughter, her husband and her daughter have been here over a year. I feel very at home. I consider this my new country. The people are very nice and Santiago is very much a modern city. I still love America but I just couldn't live with the changes. You need to really do your research because leaving your country is a big deal. It takes a lot of preparation. Simon Black is a good source. Expat blogs are good too. I have no regrets. I was sort of depressed the last few years in America. There are no property taxes on agricultural property in Chile. Gas is high but you don't need a car in Santiago. Bank accounts are hard to get. You have to wait a year to work unless you start a business. There are people here to help you with everything. You have to have a little money. I don't miss anything.
They are doing visits. I would like to visit and see it for myself. I would not buy anything, but would see if it would be possible to work/rent, maybe with some infrastructure. If I felt stable after a few years, then I might consider buying.
Hey are you still on? I was lurking accidentally! Lol I'm getting ready to hit the hay. Tomorrow is my son's 15th birthday, and my Dad's 80th. It's so cool that they share a b'day! Have a nice night!
my dad just had his 80th birthday too! last friday. mom isn't able to hold a pencil very well yet, or she'd have written him a birthday poem. soon, soon
I'm on...sort of. Watching a movie.... The same birthday is very cool :) My Mom's and one of my sons is 3 days apart and we always have a cake night for them together :) Sleep well! Stop lurking!
Quite interesting. I'd have to think long and hard about moving to Latin America, though. What seems like a stable government could be overthrown, and probably would be given enough time.
What happens in the socialist countries after the $$ runs out provides a view of what this country may be like in 10 years or so. Sooner or later, one of the top 3 countries we owe money to will call in the debt, that's when the fun will really begin.
My partner and I are in discussions with RE Agents in Costa Rica at present, but are also looking for opportunities in Belize, Chile, Uruguay, Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua, Ecuador... community sizes that we're looking at are ranging between 100 acres and 940 acres... Check out the site for more!!
Again, Costa Rica is a highly socialist country. it ranks way below the US. What is your rationale for there? Quepos is pretty? it's relatively cheap? it brings in lots of tourists already?
While it's true that Costa Rica is a socialist country, they also have no standing army. Their tax policies concerning foreign-earned income are rather favorable (not quite as nice as Panama, but...), as are the property tax policies toward corporately-owned property, as you have to buy them being a foreigner. Additionally, Costa Rica produces 90% of it's energy needs from hydroelectric, has extremely fertile soil, plenty of rainfall... You ignored the other countries I listed... Not sure why.
didn't mean to, just looked at the website and responded to what was listed there that I saw. I like that Belize has british common law, but it is a very corrupt govt, with lots of minutia that must be attended to in only one city in the entire country. I would be interested in knowing where you were looking there, just for curiosity sake. I didn't see from the site any information on the other countries. also, my comments on this thread stand about owning property during a very precarious global financial situation. the idea of a gulch subdivision seems , well, weird. but by all means, make your case for it. I did not knock a point off for your 1st comment btw
today, I had to lose status as a producer for like 5 minutes while I updated CC info due to the recent theft. bigjim called me a moocher. it didn't last long and I've forgiven him. :)
ub!---- Perhaps I should not be speaking to you then..... Once a moocher..... (That's actually pretty funny. Bigjim calling you a moocher. Does anybody know anything about Bigjim....besides him being big I mean...)
look, we're the only ones on. Tenacious is fixing dinner and layin out the cheerios for fine motor skills. sigh. what should we talk about? any new scholastic indoctrination today?
I'm sorting eBay finds...My Mom, God bless her, did all my GW shopping this weekend because I was living it up in a cabin on a hill. And I'm also watching Downton Abbey. When I watched it a while back I though it was only a mini series. I just found out it's a series series and I'm years behind! No new indoctrination, that I'm aware of.... What you up to? (Poor Tenacious....never talks...just voyeurs. Hey Ten!!....what's the haps??!!!)
Downtown abbey. I'll check it out. those moms. bless their huge engines of individualism and production. we had a good day in here. uncommon and OA and DK and kathy and terrycan, well there was a momentary lapse into star wars-I left during this-and there was rebirth-a few newbies asserted their points. in general, all gulch fields were fertilized and watered and waiting for tomorrows sun-is it already here, lost?
:( I hate that I miss fun in here. But some of us have to work for a living! (And look for indoctrinations). What post was all of this happening on...I feel like I need to get caught up.... (Where is Lost? Physically I mean.)
obsessed with the star wars thing, which I cannot abide, I left out nonmooch. her husband is testifying on Monday. we want her or someone to tape. we need a legacy. like Euda did, the taping is proof . also Overman agreed that a book we should read is 5000 year leap, God is involved. OA said swap out God for natural rights. that has started a discussion. all is well in the Gulch
Great synopsis! lol Never heard of the book, but I'll check it out. :) (Just did a library request for it...and speaking of which...I have to read Agenda 21 within the next week...so I know what I'm doing this weekend...along with eBay...and gulching of course.)
unless it's Bora Bora, I won't bother in going there to live. I could live in BB, but the chances of that are when I win the powerball or megamillions. Since I don't play that often, that mean I'll never live in BB.
When one looks at the over reaching global financial crisis that seems inevitable, I am curious about expats who start with the premise" I must own land." especially if they aren't that familiar with the country they might purchase the land in! and by familiar, I mean not only really familiar, but also the vetting of many other locations. now, spending time outside the US I totally understand. but this "subdivision" mentality of galting, seems to miss. IT "communities" in this day and age allow for strong relationships, economic and social, worldwide, negating the need for geographic closeness. But, I understand why people are looking at leaving and why others would look for business opportunities within that niche
A lot of people do not have the time or money to globe trot and stay in foreign countries long enough to make a determination about whether one place or another is a good place to live. But, like with finances, investments etc, we pay attention to people who have used some of their wealth to visit other countries and talk about what it's like to live there. Argentina isn't known for the stability of government, but Doug Casey went ahead and built La Estancia de Cafayate there, and it has performed extremely well. Jeff Berwick in Acapulco and in Chile... You can harp about your disagreement with those choices and take solace in the fact that no one is forcing you to move to any of those places. But I would wager that you're not anywhere near as familiar with these developments as you are your talking points against them. No place is perfect.
As far as owning land goes, it's one way to ensure you have the right and ability to make the land produce what you need to survive; food, livestock, sale crops, well-water, and provide you a place you can capitalize on natural energy sources like solar, geothermal and hydroelectric so that, when the collapse occurs, you don't go hungry or have to live like a caveman.
I understand there is no one perfect place for everyone. as far as owning land goes, when the fabric of society falls apart, legal ownership has very little meaning and does not give you the ability to doe the things you talk about. property rights depend on the fact they will be govt respected/enforced. I'm not saying this isn't an option for many, but when society breaks down, weigh chances. one cannot pick up land and move it with them. many govts rely on this fact as a way to enslave. just my opinion-good luck with your endeavors
"Your instincts serve you well...." Obi Wan. I think overmanwarrior is correct Hugo will come along and do as Fidel did. I think it is a real estate sham.
O.A.
self sustained means no services. how did you come across this uncommon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lMuhlfEX...
An idea worthy of further examination. We should compile a list of the pros and cons of each candidate state. Which state is the least objectionable?
Regards,
O.A.
Thanks for the intel brief. Meanwhile, living on Bora Bora is just a dream...
you don't get island fever? that's my beef. what if everyone on Bora Bora turns out to be boring boring?
btw, does guinea pig taste like turtle?
I'm getting ready to hit the hay. Tomorrow is my son's 15th birthday, and my Dad's 80th. It's so cool that they share a b'day! Have a nice night!
The same birthday is very cool :) My Mom's and one of my sons is 3 days apart and we always have a cake night for them together :)
Sleep well!
Stop lurking!
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My partner and I are in discussions with RE Agents in Costa Rica at present, but are also looking for opportunities in Belize, Chile, Uruguay, Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua, Ecuador... community sizes that we're looking at are ranging between 100 acres and 940 acres... Check out the site for more!!
I did not knock a point off for your 1st comment btw
(That's actually pretty funny. Bigjim calling you a moocher. Does anybody know anything about Bigjim....besides him being big I mean...)
No new indoctrination, that I'm aware of....
What you up to?
(Poor Tenacious....never talks...just voyeurs. Hey Ten!!....what's the haps??!!!)
it' done and needs feedback
As far as owning land goes, it's one way to ensure you have the right and ability to make the land produce what you need to survive; food, livestock, sale crops, well-water, and provide you a place you can capitalize on natural energy sources like solar, geothermal and hydroelectric so that, when the collapse occurs, you don't go hungry or have to live like a caveman.
as far as owning land goes, when the fabric of society falls apart, legal ownership has very little meaning and does not give you the ability to doe the things you talk about. property rights depend on the fact they will be govt respected/enforced. I'm not saying this isn't an option for many, but when society breaks down, weigh chances. one cannot pick up land and move it with them. many govts rely on this fact as a way to enslave. just my opinion-good luck with your endeavors