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Has the time come for a real Galt's Gulch? If the worst should happen in November.

Posted by $ servo75 3 years, 7 months ago to Going Galt
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If the worst should happen, and the Democrats get power again (which let's be honest, will happen eventually even if we successfully delay the inevitable in 2020), I think we have to give serious consideration to some semblance of Galt's Gulch. Even Rand knew such a place in real life would be completely fantastical, yet we have advantages that Galt and Mulligan didn't have, such as the ability to organize online and recruit thousands if not millions of people where Galt had to do so one at a time.

I started thinking about this when Bill Whittle made a Stratosphere Lounge video talking about a "Plan B" should the worst happen this November. He used the analogy that if you were on a ship and a child went overboard, you'd jump in to save him/her. If you found yourself attached to an anvil, you know it's going down no matter what so you cut yourself off from it. The talk was a little rambling but he then mentioned geographic segregation, even the possibility of moving to one state like Texas or New Hampshire (has to be a state with an international border and/or coastline), and seceding.

I say this only PARTLY tongue in cheek - it's not a literal suggestion or an attempt to start such a movement... yet. But it's something to think about. We prepare for every other potential emergency in life. A socialist takeover of our government is bigger than any other emergency I can think of so shouldn't we have a plan in place? You can rebuild after a hurricane or earthquake. What the Democrats are proposing is incurable. It will eventually fail and there will be a call for more market and other freedom, but the situation would get far worse before it gets better. I keep saying the only way mask laws will EVER end, vaccine or no, is mass resistance. May be the same for our nation as a whole. Because like Bill Whittle's analogy, a Democrat victory in November is a sign that the ship is no longer salvageable, that the American populous, maybe America itself, is too far gone to save. So salvage what you can and cut ourselves from the anvil.


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  • Posted by Eyecu2 1 year, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    WOW! After 2 1/2 years? Dude you're really digging into old stuff.

    That mask is long gone but the centament remains.
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  • Posted by eckert16 2 years, 7 months ago
    Elections have consequences... here we are, a year later.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 7 months ago
    This is going to be an election fraught with turmoil. Even if the Dems lose there will be a wave of anarchy the likes we haven't seen before. Major cities will be burnt to the ground. If they win the election from what I have been reading on the internet and statements made by the DNC they will punish anyone who voted for Trump and any news organization that supported Trump. How are they going to do that they would have to ignore the Constitution? Secession is one possibility that could lead to a Galt's Gulch scenario.
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  • Posted by JakeOrilley 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Currently live in the ATL area, and if you have to work there you cannot have a Trump sticker on your car or it will get keyed (or worse).
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can redeem yourself by withdrawing from politics and just minding your own business, as it were. its disgusting to have to do that, but the alternative to hiding in plain sight is probably death and destruction
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It would depend on who the military sided with. Even with our AR-15's, the leftists control a lot of people and could defeat us with their military equipment.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    cool. I suppose if you have a government mortgage they could still say they own the land. One way or another, secession would involve armed conflict as it did in the first civil war
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  • Posted by Idiocracy42 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I get it - I love the cold, too, and don't get it here. Best cold I had was living in Iceland which is simply gorgeous if you don't mind being taller than the trees.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a nice thought, yet I have parents to tend until they expire. Mom will probably make 100+. A line of Centurians.
    This may seem weird; I don't think I can ever be more in awe of clear skies and the squeak/crunch of snow during -15 deg days.
    I have a series of fresh water oceans to play upon and spend time reflecting upon my universal insignificance and vulnerability. I enjoin in a community that dons "shorts" as soon as the temps rise above freezing. The "dying" time of winters are the beautiful counterpoint of re-growth of life.
    I lived in Lubbock for 4 years.....North is my choice. I thrive when the temps dive!
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very welcome. Yesterday I was invited to meet with a Permaculture co-op, non-formal, about ten miles north of my new place. I cannot file any allodial title as I am within a city boundary. These folks can. I plan to bring this to their attention for exploration. Wis is a Land Patent / Allodial State. To withdraw from the Corporation of (......) is real power.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're welcome. Definitely look into the Incorporation. These things enjoin to the corporate structures of municipalities. It is very similar to enrollment of Social Security in context.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Same experience here, trails.
    Rand had it right. The "peaceful" solution is a strike because sociopaths will kill millions to keep their power. To them might makes right.
    Power corrupts. One in a trillion can wield power without being corrupted. Trusting anyone with power is as rational as expecting to win the Powerball lottery every time.
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  • Posted by trailsRus 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Probably too late, but I arrived at that conclusion several years back after volunteering for town committees, attempting to infuse some concept of property rights and taking personal responsibility for their "wants" by their groups assuming the cost thereof. They want their special interest groups to control the use of public property while passing the costs off on the grand list. Of course, I was outnumbered and, as they rightfully point out, the town (and state) votes overwhelmingly for their prescriptions, and I'm not equipped with the time, personality and resources to take on the leviathan.
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  • Posted by trailsRus 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's interesting, thank you. I will look further into how it is treated in this state and if the fact that the farm was incorporated 50 years ago would have an affect. Shares are currently held by 3 family members, who would also concur with the intent of a land patent.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 7 months ago
    I think that it will get far worse before it gets better. The downward decay will occur over at least another 25 years ... a full generation. Then we will have to be dragged and bumped along the bottom for another 25 or so years before there is enough of a level of discontent with the open and widespread misery.

    As for the Muzzle mandates -- I test the waters and resist (no muzzle) whenever I think I can cross the line of defiance. In other places, such as the big box and local stores, I just wear my absurd gas mask and tin foil hat... Just thought of something... I could put my MAGA hat on top of my tin-foil-covered mountain-climbing helmet. Also, it might be good to mock those who still wear the muzzle -- in particular those loonies in the woods on trails or up at the snow level in the mountains... theirs is the sum of fear + ignorance + compliance + virtue-signaling.

    Regarding a real Galt's Gulch, I think that I will hide In Plain Sight... be the gray man. I will work in a manner to produce only enough for myself and will engage in trade in the black market. Trading in both skills and materials has merit. True Story: I own some acreage. One of my neighbors, who also owns land, made a trade to a local high-end home builder. He said to the builder "If you build me a castle on my property, then I will sell you five acres of my property for a song." The deal went through, my neighbor got his swanky new home, and the builder got five nice acres of view property which he used to build his castle. Win Win. And the actual money traded was trivial. So there are opportunities. A skill for skill trade -- one individual has medical experience (family practice doctor), the other has wealth growth and investing experience... I see the potential for a trade. Nothing is actually put into writing, so there are no records. One of my plans is to short plat one of my properties and "sell" a 10 acre parcel to a local (within Washington State) family farmer for growing produce (blueberries, cherries, apples) and then I am a business partner... all of this is in the planning / analysis stage. Develop a network of like-minded and like-actioned individuals. There is very little way to 'fake a farm' -- generational family farmers, owner/operators of auto repair facilities, carpenters, people that work their professions with talents and skills -- they are solid fixtures in a healthy network.

    I also see the value of PMs having a greater "currency" in the darker times ahead.

    Anyone here familiar with Devon Stack's "Day of the Rope?" It is a short novel. You can likely gather the implication from the book's title as to some of the "solutions" in terms of how to fight a statist regime.

    Monkey-wrenching had been the pastime of the greenies in years gone by. Our civilization is presently but a thin veneer ... so much of this vast complexity could be brought to a crescendo of catastrophe with very few hands. And if those hands belonged to competent engineers, it might only take 12 years to turn out the lights.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a MAGA hat ... I should wear mine, along with my "This is a Mind Control Device" muzzle. Honestly, I would like to be party to a scuffle ... I am curious as to the outcome where 150 pounds of mountain-climbing-ultra-runner engages with a tussle of snowflakes and punks.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent -- I recall someone else recommending this book. I will get it and surely enjoy it.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for the X22 reminder. I have viewed and thought about the X22 presentations over the last few years; however, X22 fell off my radar ... mostly as a result of reading / thinking about articles shared by SLL (Straight Line Logic). Heading over the X22 in a bit.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here's a little more regarding TX.....own the land free of debt and file allodial title.
    https://info.courthousedirect.com/blo...
    "The State of Texas, unlike the other 49 states in the union, never officially ceded its lands via an enabling act to the U.S. government during its annexation. The federal government, therefore, may not enjoy supremacy over land patents and deed issued by the Texas state government."
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  • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you've the land Patent history file allodial title if applicable in your state.

    https://info.courthousedirect.com/blo...
    Exerpt: "A land patent is the only form of proof of absolute title to land in the United States. It protects the landowner from claimants of co-ownership as well as the United States government.
    A land patent is granted to the named party and his, her, or their heirs and assigns forever. Without a land patent, there is the potential to lose ownership of your property in a land contest. With a land patent, the property is no longer subject to any third party challenge."
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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If he had done more of that in the first term, we might not be on the knife's edge that we are now. First two years in office we could require stricter voting laws, end agencies, because guarantee the voters hate big government, especially bureaucracies, even if they won't admit it to themselves or others.
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