Jordan Peterson and Steven Hicks talk about creeping postmodernism

Posted by  $  Solver 4 months, 3 weeks ago to Philosophy
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Very interesting hour and a 40 minute video discussing postmodernism, its effect on today’s culture, today’s language, and what to do about it.

https://youtu.be/BwW9QV5Ulmw



Snip-its about postmodernism from the RAW transcript:

“some people just want power and they will then rationalize their use of power over other people by a variety of means”

“your identity has been shaped by forces beyond your control and you can't engage with other cultures and other individuals except on the basis of hostility which just means people retrench so it's a very closing in kind of intellectual movement”

“the great danger I think of post-modernism though is its skeptical stance toward the idea of there being truth at all and then in its activist manifestation when the professors are functioning as I just have my subjective preferences and I have power in the classroom and my view as a professor of my practice rather as a professor is simply to indoctrinate students in my subjective preferences in that case what you are doing is not only giving students a very cynical negative ultimately as a negative empty view of the world but you are not at all training them in the ability to think for themselves to compare competing viewpoints and make their own judgment so that's the danger”


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  • Posted by minorwork 4 months, 3 weeks ago
    From Paul Lutus, Apple Writer author and designer of the converters twixt fuel cells and lights on the Space Shuttles: https://arachnoid.com/what_is_science...
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    • Posted by  $  4 months, 3 weeks ago
      That summarized the subject fairly well.
      Postmodernism, and it’s truth that power is all there is, and science, which is our best known method to discover what is true, are an explosive combination.

      “The central idea of postmodernism is that there are no shared objective truths, that everything is subjective opinion. People possessed of common sense will instantly see that this idea is self-canceling (if the postmodernist thesis is true, it must apply to postmodernism and thus dismantle it by self-reference), but it is vital to understand that, at some point during the training of the average philosopher, common sense is reliably extinguished.”

      “Psychologists, on recognizing the true nature of their field, want the imprimatur of science for commercial and self-esteem purposes, so (instead of reforming their field from within) they try to borrow the authority and status they believe lies within science through the expedient of redefining science. In my many debates with psychologists, I have noticed the primary strategy is to assert that what constitutes science is a matter of opinion, that is, by adopting a postmodernist outlook. In this way psychologists can reconcile contemporary psychological practice with science.”
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  • Posted by Abaco 4 months, 3 weeks ago
    I coined this current situation "the new dark age" a few years ago. I think it's the same thing.

    As a man of science, and engineer, and father...I'm very confident we're f*cked, my friends. Even in my office I see it it so many forms. People, I'm convinced, are willfully stupid. It's over...
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 4 months, 3 weeks ago
    I think just the term "post-modernism" is hilarious, because it describes a future not yet realized - which is all these idiots have. It is literally a philosophy built on pipe dreams or rainbows and unicorns rather than anything of substance and reality. It is the epitome of self-deceit.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 4 months, 3 weeks ago
    This post is fascinating! I checked out 'postmodernism' and all I learned were several new words of which I am unsure as to whether or not they were even spelled correctly. 'Referentiality, epistemological, obscurantism'??
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 4 months, 3 weeks ago
    "I think of post-modernism though is its skeptical stance toward the idea of there being truth at all "
    It was in style in the 90s. The word post-modernism is out of fashion, but the thought process of there being no objective reality is stronger now.
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    • Posted by  $  4 months, 3 weeks ago
      Postmodernism is at the root of many of these nonsense academic studies that turn students into woke armies. This has been shown by professors that have been inside these indoctrination camps.

      If there is no truth then how can postmodernism make any claims such as, power is all there is.
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