Since I left that last post and been away from my PC, I've been thinking that I may have sold myself short. I've never been a businessman; but if creatively applied, I have a lot knowledge and prior experience that may be useful in various ways. Ah, prolonged standing, forget it. I would be a limping starved to death allosaur during its Jurassic Period. But that's OK, I'd be extinct now anyway..

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A) 10 [US] ... and that is only if people someday rise up and say they've had enough. Short of a that it would be 0.

B) 70 Since 70 is also my age, my hope would be that I would be able to contribute enough to be productive.

C) 75 Global financial/economic/social meltdown would motivate me to move, but I would hope that entry and settlement in Atlantis would be by invitation only.

P.S. What about a virtual Atlantis with off-the-grid occupants?

I also know how hard it is to consider leaving this great country. However, it really isn't any longer the country I have grown up in and fallen in love with. I first read Atlas Shrugged 50 years ago at the age of 19. Since that time have re-read it 9 more times. Each time more has come to fruition as she predicted. Breaks my heart but our country probably can't be saved at this point. Many are waking up to the falling but too little too late. Being in this Gulch I have come to see that my family and I are not alone in our feeling about what is happening. But Atlas shrugged some time go. Not to say it is a done deal, but chances are getting slimmer by the day. I believe we most likely will fall and will need like-minded, freedom-loving folks such as the Gulch to re-build this great country. If the Founders did it, we can do it. We have to do it.

Did the Browser Hijacker in Chief just ruin that possibility through his open borders policy over the last few months?

Thank you. . .found it and posted! Not sure when it will appear but I am looking forward to responses.

Lol!

Wow....!

Move to Texas! Texas secedes and we rule! Once we eliminate all of the hand-outs, all of the negative elements will leave for the USA. I believe that Texas will become the future free nation that we all dream of. It takes work and commitment, as anything with value does.

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As for the medical technology, my wife who is a nurse will be looking for a job in your clinic.

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A) US. 80%. There have been numerous 'required social philosophies' (currently, Global Warming) that have been deposed over the years; Socialism is waiting for its turn to be overthrown. If the philosophy of Randists/Objectivists/Libertarians is made sufficiently available, then when the economic system collapses because of being burdened by non-producers there is a good chance that a ROL philosophy of independence will take the lead. Please note that even if the producers do not Go Galt, there is a point at which this will occur. IF this happens there will be an occasion to put some protections (eg amendments) in place to be sure that an entitlement society does not take over again. This is why movies like Atlas Shrugged and Winter Soldier are IMPORTANT. It is upon legends that the future will depend.

B) I would love there to be an Atlantis. Were there one, I would want to move there immediately. (I occasionally browse the internet to see if there is a country which is stronger in freedom than the US. I have not found one such - only countries in which one can more easily be obscure.) The desire for this is like a magnet that draws me emotionally. However, I must take C into account, and I do try not to make decisions with my emotions.

C) I have invested over 20 years into co-founding (with another Randist, please note) a small company that is now one of the world leaders in Laboratory Informatics. I have contemplated moving the company to Ensenada to get out from under Obamacare; I have considered moving the company to West Texas, if Texas is strong enough to resist Federal socialism (its not doing great at that, though better than CA!). My co-founder does not want to move anywhere anytime, and this is a problem - things will have to be dire before he and his wife uproot. Telecommuting might be a possible compromise position for me, but this requires a high-tech Atlantis.

I will have no problem in bringing valuable skills: My enthusiasm is nigh boundless. (I am also a Medical Technologist (ASCP), geek,...and I have this really nice piece of software I can bring with me as my AS dowry...) My current strategy is to Bug-In, make provisions as I may to come through the likely crisis in decent shape, and try to fight for freedom. It is not impossible to win against a country - especially when you are actually fighting 'for' the country...and there are still many people who value freedom.

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A greater tyranny and much closer to home. The tyranny of those times was an ocean away and longer lines of communication. Now the tyrants are here, have instantaneous communication and pervasive oversight of our daily lives. It's time to be gone.

I will try. . .not sure how to do it!

Dittos for me, too.

Understood. That has some definite benefits in terms of lack of access. That lack of access is also a drawback in some respects, too. We will keep this under consideration.

Not at all, Thank You.

I hope you don't mind that I referenced you on using it again in this post.

It is a nice trailer, but I have so much more.

I'll put you and freedomforall in charge of the diner that Hugh Akston was at.

That depends on where Atlantis actually is.

Agreed, but the question is how to preserve, or obtain, such liberty. The Founders had much to overcome within their own population and with regard to the British military. I think we have an even greater tyranny to overthrow.