Obama was Successful, not a Failure

Posted by mminnick 5 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Please bear with me as I explain myself.
Obama's stated goal was to "Fundamentally chang America" Now consider what he accomplished.
1. Millions more on Food Stamps,
2. Millions more in poverty
3. Accumulation of more debt than all previous Presidents
4. Drastic reductions in our military
5. Dramatic reduction in world respect for the USA
6 Mandatory purchase of health insurance or payment of increased taxes (Individual Mandate)
Taken together all of these things and many more, large and small changed the USA and to my mind not in a good way. These are all fundamental changes to the American Way. so given his goal of making a fundamental change to America, he had a great deal of success.
If Hillary had won, the downward spiral would have continued.
So don't say he did not achieve his goals, he most certainly did. It is just the fundamental change he wanted and stated he would work for was not what most Americans thought it was or would be.


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 2 months ago
    Obama was one of a group of carefully groomed globalists, with the goal of not just changing America, but altering world relationships in a way that would lead to world governance, and the subjugation of individual freedom. Trudeau, Macron, and other socialist-leaning leaders were part of the brotherhood working toward this goal.

    The mythology behind this effort was a fantasy that had a goal of a peaceful world where all were equal and free from conflict. Resources would be redistributed globally so none would experience desolation. The problem with this world view is its incredible naivete, believing that the world's predator nations and forces would lie down with the sheep in peace. China, Russia, and violent Muslims would never have followed that path, simply waiting until the globalists had sufficiently pacified the rest into a vulnerable food supply.

    Fortunately, there is still amount of self preservation drive in humanity to not let this happen. In America, Trump sensed this rising tide of resistance and rode it to the White House, while the Yellow Jackets in France demonstrated European resolve. Nationalism is spreading, with the rise of conservatism across continents, and it may be the common element that preserves freedom.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
    He was successful at bringing down america. Too bad the leftists elected him in reparation for the treatment of slaves hundreds of years ago. Now we all pay in terms of a weakened country, and all that debt he piled up.
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  • Posted by jimmyDJV 5 years, 2 months ago
    I praise and thank God every day since November 9th 2016 that Hillary Clinton was not elected to continue the Obama abomination!
    The other thing Obama accomplished was creating a huge ever-widening divide in America's race relations!
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  • Posted by mshupe 5 years, 2 months ago
    Of course he succeeded. And these successes are precisely why Limbaugh declared at the onset "I hope he fails."
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 5 years, 1 month ago
    Yeah, he succeeded in doing things to the detriment of this country. But I don't think his damage will necessarily be permanent. So then, in the end, perhaps he will not be a success.
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  • Posted by starznbarz 5 years, 2 months ago
    Obama is, and has always been, a communist. Like others of his ilk, he recognizes the usefulness of the islamist crew in pursuit of his goals, but will roll them over if required. His Daddy was a drunk, one wreck cost him his legs, the next killed him. He was a polygamist that abandoned his wife and son, yet Barack the Jr. holds him up - in his mind, as a great man, which requires the former prez to stand on daddy s shoulders both to elevate himself and cover up his poppa. Hes a bully that believes the folks that tell him he s special, much like the boy with frosting on his face that swears he didnt take the cake.
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  • Posted by chad 5 years, 2 months ago
    Obama succeeded to encourage failure of the populace at large to put in effort to survive. He enamored the populace with the idea that survival means looting those who produce. The ultimate success of this plan is that millions starve when denied what little they can produce under communism, the population is enslaved and if the leaders cannot figure out what else to do with the 'excess' population they simply kill them by the millions to reduce the demand for property and food.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 2 months ago
    Bathhouse Barry took credit for the strong economy and job growth experienced after he left office. Maybe , He did have to take his foot off the neck of the markets upon vacating the WH.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 5 years, 2 months ago
    Don't forget her purged many military generals...
    The short version was simple:
    Obama: "Will you tell your forces to take arms against Americans who will not listen?"
    General: "No Way!"
    Obama: "You're Fired!"
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  • Posted by mccannon01 5 years, 2 months ago
    Mminnick, nice start for a list, but you left out irreversible importation of Islam and "radical" Islam is a given subset of any Islam. Sharia Law is not compatible with the US Constitution and never will be. Communities all over the US have been successfully seeded with Islam throughout the Obama years, including mine. See the French experience.
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  • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
    It depends what your definition of success and failure is?

    Your title should have been "Obama accomplished his goals", but that by definition is not success. Success only by his terms.

    In general, to be successful you have to do something with redeeming value to the country or citizenry.

    There was no redeeming value in anything Hussein has done. The goals were his own, to glorify his presidency and built his legacy. The country did not ask for them and their implementation has done tremendous damage.

    You should change your title.
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  • Posted by NealS 5 years, 2 months ago
    Yes, and look at this in comparison to just a few thing our colluding president is doing. The letter source and direction is not verified, but it is not the point. The only point is the letter content. I've sent it to many of my left friends asking them to take it line by line. Most of them think the other rhetoric they talk about and calling me names is more important than the issues in this letter..

    https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads...
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 2 months ago
    Agree that success and failure are largely about which goals one pursues. How lasting Obama's "successes" are appears to be a completely different measuring stick, however, as they have shown to be extremely short-lived in the face of rollbacks...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 2 months ago
    Most of these are basically untrue or good things. I don't think President Obama brought fundamental change, certainly nowhere near the light expectations people had when he was elected.

    "1. Millions more on Food Stamps,
    2. Millions more in poverty"
    I suspect these are false because the economy was doing great while he was president (it continued to this day after he left). To the extent the poor didn't participate in the growth, it's not the president's fault. I also don't give him credit for the economy being good and the stock market tripling.
    "3. Accumulation of more debt than all previous Presidents"
    When he took office borrowing was nearly $1 trillion b/c of the recession. It gradually decreased the whole time he was in office to $400M. Amazingly, while the economy was still expanding, President Trump and Congress managed to get it back near $1 trillion in just a year. Amazing. They do deserve blame for that. Their tax cut was great, but they raised spending instead of cutting it.
    "4. Drastic reductions in our military"
    It didn't happen, but I wish it had. I want to be as close as we can get to having a well-organized minuteman militia made of citizens with their own weapons. I know we'd still need missile defense and some standing army. I also know I'm in the minority. President Obama could not have cut the military enough or my liking.
    "5. Dramatic reduction in world respect for the USA"
    This is a subjective opinion that I don't see as remotely true in any of my travels.
    "6 Mandatory purchase of health insurance or payment of increased taxes (Individual Mandate)"
    It turned out to be not as good as I thought, but I still generally agree with the idea of not having people be free-riders. People need to have money for their medicine, insurance, or we have to be willing not to use gov't money to help people who didn't buy insurance--free riders. Mandatory insurance of some sort makes a lot of sense to me.

    None of this does anything to reduce the cost and intrusiveness of gov't. That is ever increasing, apparently without any regard for who's president. Separate from my desire to limit the power of the executive branch and the strength of the central gov't, I want to see more people like President Obama in office. Even if the deficit only went back to $400M, that's more than in half. We need people like him now more than ever.
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