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  • Posted by ProfChuck 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    One of the great benefits of being a politician is the freedom of unbridled hypocrisy.
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      As a Jackass Party's more than equal virtual political aristocrat among our elite betters, Princess Pelosi is not required to make a~ho hum!~boring bother over what she says all we the little people should do. Such as the citizens of Paris?
      The same goes with the carbon footprint laid by his majesty the esteemed inventor of the internet Al Gore, whose name may have been considered before the name Ygor was assigned to Hollywood's hunchback helper for Dr Frankenstein.
      I wouldn't be surprised if Princess Pelosi aka the Nutty Nancy who proclaimed, "Let us pass this bill to see what is in it" will also say "Let them eat cake" should she as Speaker of the Swamp manage to take back Trump's stolen "crumbs," you know, those next to nothings that gave employees pay raises, bonuses and money better spent by the Dem-wit elite on the welfare of moochers in exchange for votes.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    I want to relate this.

    A radical lefty woman was interviewed the other day and asked the same question: how the elite left explain their excessive use of private planes, high energy intensive mansions, several cars, etc..

    She loftily and arrogantly educated the reporter and us unwashed: it is not the private citizens that will save the world. Oh no Siree! It is corporations whose cap and trade money is orders of magnitude larger (addition by me) than a meager Al Gore or George Soros would even be able to do.

    You see? The affluent left like Hussein or the Clintons are allowed all the careless luxury whereby they add to their "carbon footprint" (another idiotic term) without the slightest concern to man-made global warming. They are exempt. It is the little guy who should pay at the gas station such as Macron envisioned. That is where the money is.

    Got it?
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  • Posted by Lucky 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Air travel puts more CO2 into the air - true

    More CO2 in the air causes global warming - false.
    No experiment proves this linkage. There is strong negative evidence such as the failure of millions of radiosonde weather balloons to identify the 'hot-spot' ( an essential outcome of the Greenhouse/CAGW models).

    Global warming exists - maybe.
    It is likely that temperatures have been increasing (recovering) from after the Little Ice Age (1500 to 1700) and before the industrial revolution started.
    Records as well as temperature reconstructions exist. Such records have a N. hemisphere bias, are sparse, and are not or are not correctly adjusted for the urban heat island effect. Worse, well publicized reports used data specifically faked to produce the desired result.

    More CO2 is bad -false.
    More CO2 is good for plant growth and therefore for all animal life that live from plants - eg humans.
    Human exhaled breath has 40,000ppm, experiments have found no proven detriment at 20,000ppm.
    The design target for submarines is (?) 20,000ppm, for buildings 1,000ppm.

    Too little CO2 is deadly - fact.
    At 150ppm and below, all land plants and animals die.
    (If you wondered what is behind carbon sequestration).

    We are now at about 400 ppm. ppm- parts per million by volume for the above data.

    CO2 - Good for Gaia, plants, animals, and even humans.
    Vote for more CO2!
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    • Posted by salta 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      I think the point was really about the hypocrisy of Pelosi, but are you trying to create reasons to justify her CO2?
      Are you suggesting that anyone is arguing that 400ppm could actually be toxic to life? or that too little CO2 would not be harmful? or that higher CO2 could increase plant growth? Those points are obvious to any intelligent person, but also have no connection to climate.
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      • Posted by Lucky 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        Using your search engine, look for - 'carbon pollution'.
        I use Startpage which does not give the number of instances found, hundreds maybe.
        Ditto - 'carbon sequestration'.

        When you have contacted those responsible for dishonesty, post up again.
        You will deserve a point for consistency if not accuracy.
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        • Posted by salta 2 weeks, 1 day ago
          Its not my job to police the world's dishonesty, not yours either. Its only our job to be honest ourselves. Those 3 points I mentioned (from your first post) are all honest and accurate. I'm not arguing with you. I was just saying that those 3 points do not argue against climate change, they are just noise. And while the noise is taking our attention (like talking about submarine levels of CO2?), laws will be created controlling our futures. The noise plays into the hands of the underlying political agenda. Whereas the original post about hypocrisy cut thru all the noise.
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          • Posted by Lucky 2 weeks ago
            Job: Politician, over paid, too much power, too many of them. Hypocrisy is not an essential qualification as believing in opposing ideas at the same time is easy for the mindless.

            Job: One of mine if non-paid is laughing at the CAGW scam.

            Job: Policing the world's dishonesty, who would volunteer for extreme social isolation?

            Suggestion to slow the "underlying political agenda": Encourage politicians to fly out to climate change conferences, lengthy and in distant locales. For such impotant work, a resulting slowdown in legislation could be tolerated.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    Pelosi has always thought of herself as one of the global elite, who in the perfect oligarchy, would help rule the world. She really has no knowledge nor concern really for any climate change. It is a tool to control people, as the UN put it.
    Notice they never mention the rold of the sun in climate, likely know nothing about science or the sun. They never mention the experiments with HAARP, now divided between Alask and Pureto Rico, as well as other versions in russia and Europe. Tehy don't want to talk about anything they cannot pretend to control. They know their CO2 story is a scam.
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  • Posted by  $  2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Oh, did I say something about CO2. Since I live in an 8,000 square foot home, who am I to make noises about Pelosi's wasting of taxpayers' money! My home also takes up a full city block. Thanks for correcting my ignorance! PS..I drive a great big Ford Explorer!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    I categorically reject the idea that we must abandon travel and other aspects of an affluent life. We just need to take responsibility for the mess we make. I am thousands for miles from home at the moment; extremists would say I'm responsible for the world's problems. No. We don't need to live a Wendell Berry, Little-House-on-the-Prairie lifestyle to take responsibility for the damage we do to others' property.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 3 days ago
      The "mess" can't be defined by government or bureaucratic UN (or similar) agency. Free the market and make the government "shutdown" wider and permanent. Competition is the fastest way to define and solve problems..
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