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(34) A Lesson from Atlas Shrugged

Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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This is more applicable today, than it was 2 years ago, whoever posted it (LibertyPen). But the clip is very powerful given the bleating we hear from the likes of Ocasio Cortez, Schumer, and Pelosi.
SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K2RSGHCPoM


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  • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 2 months ago
    Very good highlight reel from ASII.
    Stop "feeding the beast that is trying to destroy" you.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
      That bothers me a lot. Every time I turn around, there is a tax on pretty much anything I do- and it feeds the beast. Let the beast stave instead.
      Sales tax, income tax, property tax, excise taxes, hotel taxes, utility tax, etc. etc. etc.
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      • Posted by $ 5 years, 2 months ago
        Oregon is pushing 2 Billion in new taxes under all kinds of fake labels, mainly "for the children". My position is the hell with the children, I have given enough for them. Now it's my turn. Maybe a futile battle, but it is what it is...
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        • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
          I agree 200%. I am tired of being emotionally manipulated by arguments for children and schools, while everything the government does for both of those things fails miserably.

          My interest in the next generation has waned substantially in the last 10 years. People have too many children they dont really care about and teach. The country is going to change towards heavy duty collectivism, and it makes me just want to "go galt" and stop working so hard. I want to spend everything I make while alive and leave nothing for the next generation.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 5 years, 2 months ago
    I think one of the most elementary and captivating elements in AS consisted of the 12 or so pages where the tramp, Jeff Allen, meets Dagny and shares the story of the 20th Century Motor Company. It is so clearly written -- anyone can understand it -- right down to someone that is not yet an adult, but is working toward becoming one.

    That part of the book explains so clearly how Socialism must always lead to failure -- how good intentions mean nothing when the results of their application are not taken into judgment.

    I find that I can read that small bit of the book as a standalone condemnation of collectivism.

    Francisco's Money Speech is also very good. I think the concern, however, is that it can be too abstract for many people. As I like to say "Money is the single most important and least understood invention of all time."
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 2 months ago
    Great clips ThanQ Nickursis.
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    • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
      I don't want to be a pooper but AS part !! was the worst IMO.

      The creators of the AS novel to film had to do 3 installments, for lack of funds or whatever reason.

      Meaning that the main characters were played by different actors in the three sequels as everyone knows.

      Part II was the worst for the character of Dagny. The woman playing her (never heard of her) is so off beat that is gets painful.

      Rearden is good, the only reason the film should be watched.

      IMO Part III was the most acceptable with the exception of the geriatric actor playing Francisco.

      They changed the script: Eddy was not part of the rescue operation for Galt: he died in his loyal effort trying to save the last Taggart train.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 2 months ago
        My vision of the Atlas Shrugged book is far different as well. Having the different actors for the characters didn’t help. I am glad They trudged through the production..
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        • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
          Yes, the film gave only a very approximate idea of what the book was about.

          The reason I am always skeptical about novel to film conversion is precisely that: reading a novel, especially one as chiseled and magnificent as AR's Atlas Shrugged would challenge even the most talented director. There is no way to translate the effect the novel impacts on you to the screen. The characters, the images, the message are formulated on a very personal level so seeing the work on the screen becomes a great disappointment.

          Which is always the case, I might add. I can remember only one instance when the film was better than the novel, in my lifetime.

          Having said that, I am glad they made the film. Many scenes came through well and edged into memory, such as the first ride on the new Rearden metal tracks, the scene of Galt's Gulch community in Colorado (I found the location which was first explored by AR and her husband before the film was shot), or the meeting between Galt and Thompson when the latter offers him the position of Economic Dictator.

          I wonder how many in Congress ever read the book? I would make it mandatory reading for every newly minted Congressperson and Senator.
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  • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
    Yes, I know that scene from the film.

    It is unlikely to happen these days. I don't know of any company today who would put up the resistance as Rearden did to the government. They are all headed by people in the pocket of the left.

    Having said that, I was forced to see idiots like Williams and Beckel again in this video whom I NEVER watch.

    FOX employs them to show they are "balanced". I can't believe anyone wants to listen to them. If I wanted to hear nonsense they parrot, I'd go to CNN.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
      Basically I have abandoned FOX. I got tired of the eye candy airhead women they put there to make up for Bill O'Reilly's oustiing. I got tired of the constant airing of leftist views by "pundits" they dredge out of the bay.

      With YouTube, I can pick and choose what I expect to learn from, not the tired collectivist drivel we are fed today. I pretty much know everything they are going to say at this point so it does nothing for me to waste time listening to it.

      I think if Trump has a chance in 2020, it will be because of the stupid socialist woman in NYC, Warren, Beto O'Rourke, Sanders, and the rest of the wild eyed socialists. I dont think people are really up to paying for all that stuff. They have seen the cost increases of Obamacare, and god only knows what would happen with medicaid for everyone ( they say medicare for all, but they MEAN medicaid for all)
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      • Posted by $ 5 years, 2 months ago
        Think about it, I was furious the Republicrats could ot find any sane people to run against some of the clowns that got elected with no opposition ( or in Occasio Cortezs, flawed opposition) and then realized Trump and Q WANTED a few of these nutjobs there to scream and yell their socialist fury so the sheeple might wake up to what their REAL agenda is. They recognized that they would take the house illegally with voter fraud, and will be pursuing it soon, but I think right now they mean it when they say "get the popcorn and enjoy the show".
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        • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
          Our two parties are marketing organizations, not philosophically based. They sit there and decide what they are going to promote to get 50.1% of the vote. Once in, they pander to their base. Trump came in and just hijacked the system and won presidency. The republican party didnt support him really, but they hooked onto his coat-tails in order to not get totally wiped out by the Dems. In 2018, the republican weakness became apparent again.

          2016, people voted for TRUMP, not the republicans. In 2018, it was republican hacks vs democrat hacks, and they didnt offer enough goodies to the masses. In 2020 it will be a vote for Trump again, but the dems will at least take over part if not all of the congress. Trumps best slogan is "Promises Made...Promised Kept"
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          • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
            You are correct. Trump is not a Republican. He is a businessman who knows how to run things.

            A fresh air after the incompetency of the Husseins and Bushes.
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            • Posted by term2 5 years, 2 months ago
              Trump is as close to an effective third party as I have seen. There arent enough Trumps to go around though.
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              • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
                Reagan was called the "Teflon president" but he is not even close to what Trump can and able to do.

                I admire his stamina and mind. He is causing tremendous pain to the left which makes them become more and more outraged and hysterical to the level that it should kill them in the end.
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      • Posted by exceller 5 years, 2 months ago
        You are correct on the "eye candy air head women" at FOX.

        Mercifully Kelly is gone (she is gone from NBC as well; some say she'll return to FOX; if they want to lose the remaining audience).

        But they managed to find several others like Martha McCallum who is difficult to tolerate even for 5 min. Beats me who is willing to sit through her hour long crap?

        For a while I tuned to Tucker but he must be getting his cues from top management who want him to put the left on air. Recently he resurrected Austan Goolsbee, the Hussein apologist and "economist", justifying the 2% growth under Hussein. He was the Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers under Hussein, so it is not difficult to fathom where he stands and what he has to say. I don't listen to his show but Tucker seems to be happy with him putting him on regularly now.
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    • Posted by mshupe 5 years, 2 months ago
      Yes, not unlikely, worse than that. Rearden is of course a hero, not a depiction of life as we know it, but as it could and should be.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 5 years, 2 months ago
    I am afraid that I don't have time to watch all of this clip because of the time restrictions in this library. (Also I have to apply for a job). But I saw the movie, and, although it didn't begin to do justice to the book, it really was fun seeing these scenes again.
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