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Yippee was considered as a viable option but me dino settled on the above stated shorter version for the sake of brevity.
:)
And that task at hand was,to wit, all that briefer brief stuff I wrote up there above. Yeah, up there.
https://fee.org/articles/the-constitu...
Me dino has described Trump as well-meaning but flawed.
Me dino hasn't read it, but I'm thinking someone close to the Kavanaugh hearings should write a book called Circus Of Fools.
Was Bush or Obama faultless? Let alone Clinton?
Show me one individual who is not flawed.
It does not matter what his weak points are. He has strong points that matter and what is important for the future of the country.
Of course,Trump has strong points that matter. His policies has big time jacked up the economy, job growth and the stock market and he undid a lot of stupid stuff a traitor named Obama pulled off.
The Clintons are criminals and both Bushes were jerks.
Rocket Man is no longer shooting missiles all over the place.
I could go on. Could be nothing I write will please you. Got other stuff to do.
Sheesh!
Well, that is a good answer.
You still did not spell out what were Trump's flaws?
You want flaws. You're a demanding little cuss, aren't you?
Let's see, months ago ewv took me to task for writing something praiseworthy about Trump did and logically proved both I and the Tangerine Tornado were flawed in our thinking.
The problem about that is, me old dino can't remember what the heck that was. Old dino regrets those too many days when I forget to take my Prevagen like I almost forgot to do right now.
Once again, I'm ba-ack! This time I'm working on a chewable Prevagen.
So what flaws do my rusty innards recall?
Me dino recalls it being discussed on this board that Trump has no problem with the enforcement of eminent domain. Well, me dino has a problem with that as does many Gulchers.
And Trump likes to talk about helping out the little guy. A little guy really feels little when he's forced to watch a bulldozer knock down his house to make way for a shopping center.
Perhaps because this next bit also adds to his power, the Ornery Orange Of The Big Apple has no problem with the Patriot Act and maybe that's a big factor why Kavanangh was at the top of his nomination list.
Blaring Trumpet's speeches have become annoyingly repetitive for me or perhaps me dino is the one flawed for watching too many of them on Fox News.
And then there is his hair. His silly looking hair!
Why am I thinking of The Three Stooges in a barbershop? No, no, a hair stylist. Perhaps one with a crewcut who calls himself Curly.
Anyhoo, listening to yet another speech just yesterday, I saw Halloween Hair look off to one side, providing me with a profile. Along the side oif his head, I saw the longest and widest bald crease I've ever seen in his hair before. Ugly!
I conclude from this that you liked listening to Obama's speeches. After all he had a teleprompter with nice words.
And please refrain from naming anyone "little cuss".
Thank you.
Reminds me. Just three or four months ago,someone who has been on this board for over five years
(about the time it got cranked up) sent me a PM and advised me not to feed trolls.
Good advice.
Feeding time is over.
Not agreeing with you does not make someone a troll.
Considering the contents of your post, it makes you a troll. Keep that in mind.
And now I am done with responding to you. It is an effort in vain.
Have a good day.
Cackles The Evil Hag is a crook.
Bye!
Now where'd I put that bottle of chewables?
Bet it's in my purse by the make-up mirror.
This much is true~I'm walking to another room to pop a Prevagen immediately after I click "reply."
My American born full-blooded Swedish dad~may he RIP.~liked to tell little dino a bedtime story about hungry trolls who hid under foot bridges, waiting to ambush goats that would cross over.
A modern mean humanoid species lays traps on the Internet. The troll will ask questions, await answers and then gleefully throw mud to~sob!~hurt me dino's tender little feelings.
The problem about that is, me old dino can't remember what the heck that was.
There have been many more refutations of Trump idolatry, beginning with the campaign period. A recent thread on Trump that you may mean is https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
Dino: Me dino recalls it being discussed on this board that Trump has no problem with the enforcement of eminent domain. Well, me dino has a problem with that as does many Gulchers.
And Trump likes to talk about helping out the little guy. A little guy really feels little when he's forced to watch a bulldozer knock down his house to make way for a shopping center.
This one came up several times during the campaign. Trump loudly pronounced that eminent domain is "wonderful". He boasted that he uses it routinely. There was even a video of him shafting people in Scotland, where he went on TV denouncing, in his usual loutish manner, his victims as living like pigs.
He also fawned over Federal land, then campaigned against the Obama National Monument abuses, then did nothing about it in most of the country, but continues to give campaign speeches about how he campaigned in rural areas to get electoral votes -- without mentioning what he campaigned on before doing nothing.
Dino: Perhaps because this next bit also adds to his power, the Ornery Orange Of The Big Apple has no problem with the Patriot Act and maybe that's a big factor why Kavanangh was at the top of his nomination list.
This came up most recently in the discussions on the Kavanaugh hearings circus, but Trump has been quietly routinely supporting NSA/CIA/FBI surveillance of innocent Americans all along.
Chewed on and ingested a Prevagen while reading the above, by the way.
Who sends a letter to a senator like that? What did she expect the senator to do with it. And of course she wanted to avoid people knowing who she was, but the dems outed her, which she deserved I might add. Now she should be branded as the liar and political hack that she is
Where are all the videos of crying snowflakes...I always love the sideshows.
Poor little trolls! Their warped predatory minds are so-o misunderstood!
Think I'll find my heart and advise them to seek the coveted end of a rainbow reward of untold riches via the up the ladder gains of pyramid power sought in telemarketing boiler rooms.
They should have held out for a "Dr. Blazy Fjord" instead.
Kavanaugh should have walked away in disgust.
But he's just another sorry scab, a hostage to "liberty."
You are complaining about time and suffering?
What do you think Kavanaugh and his family have gone through?
Thank God there are Kavanaughs who are holding out despite of traitors like you.
To be clear, I think good men like Kav should have saved himself and his family the time and suffering as well (and there's a good deal more to come, "believe me").
Thank Rand we have the example of Galt (and Rearden) to show us another way to fight evil besides continuing to work for it.
How long before the Soros appointees begin dictating to the Supreme Court under cover of their SJW, egalitarian moral-crusade. There is no effective opposition.
Until men and women of integrity wake up and "go Galt" we will only drag out and make permanent the corrosive power of Plato and Kant over our lives and the lives of our children.
Unfortunately people change their thinking only when their very existence is threatened. You can refer to the Europeans who are still denying that the Muslim invasion is dangerous (countries like France, Germany and Sweden for example).
There are two ways out: one is to kill the prog/liberal movement and eliminate its most vocal supporters, the other is to hand over control to them which inevitably would lead to the death of the country.
I do think AR was right in AS- the system needs to collapse before a John Galt can actually be heard and understood. I think its going to be a long road of decline here in the USA to use up "other peoples' money" before real objectivist changes could be accepted on a widespread basis.
Nor will people "wise up" after a collapse. Proper ideas do not come out of a vacuum just because existential problems are much worse. Knowing you don't like something does not tell you what is right. When national political conditions are suddenly worse in the kind of large scale disaster you are projecting people don't take the time to philosophize, let along become better intellects. They generally act out of panic, fear and emotions -- because they don't have the principles required to do anything else for large scale social organization and want their problems solved "somehow" -- clinging to what they already believe is right and demanding or wishing the government give them what they want.
Looking at Venezuela, one can see that they aren’t denouncing the socialism that has killed their economy, at least not quite yet
If the USA collapsed, it would take a very long time before we would enjoy the standard of living we do right now.
If Galt had given his speech before the plot in the novel began there would have been no novel to write. She sought to put in fictional form her idea of the "ideal man", not an anti-intellectual recommendation to save the world by collapsing it.
The "strike" in Atlas Shrugged was fiction intended to make an entirely different point: the role of the mind in human survival, not the "going Galt" nonsense promoted as the means to reform, which she opposed for good reason. The idea for the plot of the novel came to her with the idea 'what if" -- and the plot illustrated how, in accelerated fictional form -- society would collapse if the mind were withdrawn. The 'strikers' went 'back to the world', with the ideas they already held, after a collapse and the looters were no longer a threat. It was a way to end the novel on a positive note, not an expectation that a world-wide threat would disappear if the US were to collapse.
The anti-mind culture of neo-Platonic Christianity led over centuries to the Dark Ages and it took a millennia to get out of that. It did not cause "rational ideas [to] be accepted more easily". Expecting, let alone wanting, a collapse to improve anything is anti-intellectual nihilism and the complete opposite of Ayn Rand's theme of the importance of formulating and spreading pro-reason, pro-individualist ideas.
You say, "If the USA collapsed, it would take a very long time before we would enjoy the standard of living we do right now." Yes, and it would become much, much worse than right now for a very long time. So don't advocate or count on a "collapse" to substitute for intellectual progress.
I would argue that the rise of trump is a grass roots reaction to obvious failures of collectivism which would not have happened without those failures. And trump is very far from subscribing to objectivist principles, but rather is more of a common sense and non intellectual figure
A John Galt speech is simply more effective at getting people to think when the current collectivist society ISNT functioning well.
I really don’t know AR’s intentions as you present them. I do remember an interview where she stated she hoped that AS was written in the hopes it would prevent the collapse But that has been a dismal failure as we proceed even faster towards that collapse.
That means to me we need to find some more effective way to fight collectivism. My view would be to point out and expose the failures of collectivism on a practical basis and replace those failures with non collectivist solutions.
Trump is exposing those failures and got elected as a result. We need a Galt figure to capitalize on those failures in an intellectual way to make the free market and individualist solutions stick. Otherwise the improvements will be lost in 2020 or sooner
AS was not just a work of fiction. It is based on a lot of great thought about human nature, and is proving to be pretty much right on as a documentary . Consider why John Galt didn’t bother with speech in the beginning of the book- maybe because AR knew inside that people would not listen UNTIL they could experience the results of collectivism. That’s why AS had disappointingly little effect.
You think like intrincists hung-up on one concrete or principle of the broader concept that it must reduce back to reality, to proudly act out your independence of spirit that comes of climbing that supreme mountain of oratory, that's what activates the mind of a revolutionary (at "home," or "abroad").
But these aren't just figures of speech. Everyone has a smartphone in public, and any player can be a hero in the fight for freedom. That's the ultimate goal: to create or inspire joint endeavors of public performance of our "mythos," the artistic vehicle of the personal, cultural and ultimately political revolution: The Atlas Spoke Transparency.
I am only a sherpa, a poet and a player. But I am honest through and through, and I'll admit that although I do believe that "the training is the treatment," I also recognize and respect the transparency of those whose proclivities focus their minds in more "predictable" ways, let us say.
Children Say
Level 42
[They want me...
To] keep to myself
what I might share with others
but they don't seem to understand
I open my mouth
[Tew] rediscover
[I now] have the words at my command
Holding out
for a world so much better
but I'm a stranger in a stranger's land
all my friends have sold out
couldn't handle the pressure
counting their blessings trying to salvage what they [can't]
Children say - children say
[our minds should think alike]
[must] one more day - slip away?
[when will] the dreams of the young [ever] come to be?
When I overhear
my parents conversations
well I'm struck by the things they say
it seems they traded the years
for mere complications,
who ever thought it could end this way?
they close the door
but they can't lock it
'cause something of their childhood remains
and they've felt it before
when the [Galt] in their pocket
counted the cost of their material [chains]
Children say - come what may
be strong for the friends you've known
but one fine day - (not) far away
will [you] remember the love [that's been lost or betrayed] ?
Well you knew what I was saying
but did you know what it meant?
when you saw that look in my eye
did you [...know, I said what I meant?]
was it all a waking dream?
all that time we [have misspent]
well I guess it must have been
somehow [those feelings] came and went [...]
Songwriters: Mark King / Michael David Lindup / Philip Gould
Children Say lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc
https://youtu.be/zj9Wd1BaVrU
Egopriest, & Respectivist
I'll be happy to consider your contribution.
Wasting time is a lover of liberty's only mistake, is how I would put it, but have a pop music...
BJ
Welcome to second best my friend
The living part of life is just a [BJ] -
Welcome-
You left your courage in a tree
And history
Gave you a [BJ]
Time is love's only mistake
And love is what they used to make
When days had turned to reckless night (1)
And lights were blown out of sight --
The way they said we all should be --
Somehow they really got to me
And I have suffered from their fear
And wondered if the time was near...
To go back . . .
Go back and let the righteous have my day
And let the sun go all the way
[beyond the DIM Horizon]
Suffer little ones who always know
That you were me and I was you --
To come with dignity and pride
Into a world where side by side
They all can find a perfect way
To live their life -- to play their play --
To kiss the sky -- and so -- to fly
Away from us who did not die
But went beyond so they could know:
Who did the job -- who dealt the blow --
Who killed the cock -- who spoiled the show --
Who dealt the job --
Who dealt the blow . . .
[Hunting humans out-of-season is a punishable offense.]
-Bruce Haack
1) A reference to Raymond Scott's Reckless Nights and Turkish Twilights (A romantic "recklessness" is a conscious attribute affordable only to non-malicious non-evaders): https://youtu.be/YfDqR4fqIWE
(Still waiting.)
Ayn Rand is not my mother, which I know from her never have waved a polemical stick in my guiltless face. The training is the treatment, and you are the revolution. John Galt is the hero in your soul, whether you choose to recognize the implications of that meta-ethical, axiomatic truth or choose instead to call Ayn Rand a failure in her life's ambition: to fully depict the ideal man in principle and in every stylistic essential whatever the unique form, you will recognize it or continue to bang your meta-skeptical head against a didactic wall of your own design.
I'm nobody's brick! And I'm still waiting for your contribution (because I believe in the Trader Principle). Let's hear it, Atlas, speak!
If I want letter and verse, I know very well where to look: my fully stocked library. (Still looking for Facets though).
Have you read the DIM Hypothesis?