IS DR FORD DEEPLY TIED TO CIA?

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 7 months ago to Government
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OK, so some may say this is not reliable, but it has surfaced now and then, and this is the first time you see all the names involved. If true, CIA seems to own this family, so that raises even more suspicion of motives and means.


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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Democrats have made it more than clear for months that they were trying to stop the Kavanaugh appointment and would have done the same for anyone else on Trump's list of possible nominees. They turned the Senate hearing into a circus before the Ford theatrical production. They are still protesting the appointment. Of course stopping it was their goal. It was also Ford's goal. She said she told her story now because she doesn't want someone like him on the court. She not only waited over 30 years to make her accusation; she never pursued it legally, even now, only in politics to try to derail the nomination.

    Kavanaugh may be much weaker on limited government than is widely believed -- he could turn out to be another Kennedy 'swing vote' on crucial issues. But he is "conservative" enough in adherence to the Constitution in comparison with the leftists on the Court that the Democrats wanted him stopped "by any means necessary" because of it.

    No one in this controversy has laughed off violent crime. Ford has been mocked for her testimony, not for the kind of assault she thinks someone did to her. She was taken seriously as sincere and believable until the campaign of farcical accusations went on for too long, by any foot-dragging method possible, despite being refuted in her accusations against Kavanaugh. By the time the circus continued for weeks she deserved to be mocked, but no one laughed at "violent crime". That is the rewrite by Democrats attempting to smear their opponents as the Democrats pursued their turning of due process and burden of proof upside down in accordance with the ideology of their misogynist 'social justice' campaign claiming a "woman's accusations must be believed". They were properly morally repudiated.

    The three ring circus is not inexplicable. The hysterical irrationalism is a result of the way the perpetrators think combined with deliberate New Left gorilla theater political activism in accordance with Saul Alinsky nihilism. They were not passive observers like those seeing a train wreck; they planned and caused it. It's the way they think. This was followed by a band-wagon effect among Republicans suddenly proclaiming all kinds of agreements, including the willingness to make a hero out of the likes of Susan Collins, whom many of them despise. The spreading, hysterical irrationalism in mob thinking, which is deeper than politics, is the more fundamental threat.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Democrats' immediate goal is to derail the Kavanaugh nomination. "
    I think you are wrong about that, but their motivations are immaterial. Different leaders may have different motivations.
    "requires government unconstrained by the Constitution -- which is why they are after Kavanaugh to begin with."
    I don't think Kavanaugh has an unusually strong record on Constitutional limits for gov't, and even if he did, I don't think that's the motivation behind the politics.

    "No one is "laughing off violent crime"."
    It only takes one example to falsify a "no one" claim. IMHO Democrats are shamelessly trying to goad Republicans into laughing off crime, with varying degrees of success.
    "That three ring circus of hounding in an anti-intellectual free for all against the innocent is serious crime itself"
    ""Liberty is in grave peril" because reason, logic, justice and individualism are being abandoned. It is much broader than this latest circus."
    Yeah. It's much broader. This circus will be forgotten and replaced with next circus. I do not know why it's happening. I sometimes think the Internet gives content providers the ability to give people more of what they look at rather than what they would request. So craning your neck at a wreck turns into a request for more morbidly fascinating wrecks. Maybe that begets train-wreck attention-seeking behavior on the part of politicians. People might have the same level of reason, logic, justice, and individualism, but then their attention is diverted to lurid spectacles instead of reasoned discourse. I don't know. I'm speculating. I''m deeply concerned about how serious decisions are being turned into one three-ring circus after another.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Kavanaugh did it. The CIA tampered with the recording of the Levin show. You must hate women.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do hope you are trying to be sarcastic, or else you have just gone off the factual deep end, especially when the guy tells you its a joke, and it is Husseins voice clearly.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, no. That is Kavanaugh. The pattern proves it. It fits the allegations. Obama is far too good and too intelligently articulate to have said that. You don't care about women.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uh, oops I mean "Barack Obama" 01:15:10. In fact, he is clearly illustrating the manipulation and outright denial of facts the democrats have pulled with this.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sadly, after all the well-meaning attempts to defend Kavanaugh from the perception of unfair attacks, direct evidence of Kavanaugh's behavior while in school has just been uncovered in this 2001 audio:

    '"I uh, didn't take school that seriously. I, uh, got into fights. I, uh, drank 'n did uh, 'n 'n consumed, uh, substances that uh [laugh], weren't always legal. Um, and, uh, you know I think generally was, um, acting um, uh in ways that uh thitwhen I look back on it I understand, uh. I think that what got through me those years, was, um, sur a natural aptitude for schooling, which meant that I didn't haveta pay attention too much ta be able to keep my grades up 'n at least uh, umm, graduate. Uh some of my behavior was self-destructive, you know, uh atuh I might uh, drink a six-pack, uh, in an hour before uh, uh before goin back ta class. Uh things like that."

    You can hear the audio and where it came from on Mark Levin's radio show where he acknowledged that he fears this will sink Kavanaugh's nomination. Start at 01:17:50 https://omny.fm/shows/mark-levin-audi...

    Oddly, the Democrats on the committee don't care, believing that this is evidence of presidential material.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She clearly has emotional problems, but it would be very damaging to focus on that while ignoring the volitional choices that Ford and the Democrats are making in their vicious attacks on Kavanaugh without regard to reason, logic, justice and civilized legal and political procedures. For all her problems, her emotional state is wound up with her ideology, thought processes and politics she promotes as a "civic duty"; she is not innocent and not a helpless innocent victim of a medical disorder.

    Understanding her emotional problems is helpful, but not the essence: had she not thrust herself into the limelight with her willing collaboration with Democrat politicians and lawyers elevating her to such immediate political prominence, few would care about her because she is not otherwise important, as few care about the personalities making the more obvious arbitrary and bizarre accusations from the others the Democrats are pushing as a "pattern" in their sophistry of circular reasoning.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Political battles must be fought as they come up when possible for as long as it still is possible, but don't temporize. The battle for the nation and the country is a philosophical battle for the right ideas -- with principles of reason and individualism, not partisan maneuvering between political parties that are only following the same false premises in the same direction. The kind of responses we have seen over the Kavanaugh battle mostly reveal very bad thinking much deeper than politics. Spreading subjectivist conspiracy theories as an answer to the current Democrat intellectual and political nihilism only makes it worse.
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  • Posted by marsh113 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, the diagnosis is based on observed behavior. Of course, not all diagnoses are made by observation alone, but many mental health diagnoses can be. It is not my intent to be critical of her. Instead, I am encouraging readers to learn about this personality disorder and it's impact on Dr. Ford and her testimony. You don't have to delve into this subject if you don't want to. I'm merely offering this approach to help others gain a better understanding about this condition and it's effect on Dr. Ford.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, then, what would you propose to confront such a threat? Obviously, installing a constitutional judge vice a political appointee is terrifying to the democrats, so how would you say we stop it?
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The threat to the entire culture of this country is much deeper than the Democrats as a party. The staggering acceleration under Obama, threatened to continue under Clinton, stands out at an immediate level, but the Repbublicans' 'me too but slower' is no better in principle. They are statists without the more overt nihilism, but are pursing the same statism under the guise of 'managing' it more 'civilly' at a slower pace. The entire uproar in the Kavanaugh nomination shows the anti-reason, subjectivist, disruption from all quarters, at an intellectual level far deeper than politics, including much of this thread on this forum.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    “When one acts on pity against justice, it is the good whom one punishes for the sake of the evil; when one saves the guilty from suffering, it is the innocent whom one forces to suffer.”
    — Hank Rearden
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    CG, spoken like a true patriot of the left. Liberty is in grave peril from a fascist democratic party that will lie, cover up, manipulate, obfuscate and break laws for their own narrow goals, and screw the rule of law. They have had these people commit perjury, and when the republicans win in November, they will all be running for cover and screaming when the DOJ starts THEIR investigations. If you want to live in la la land and believe "nothing to see" in regards to the last 8 years of democratic rule, fine. A lot of us have seen the lies, the obfuscation, the manipulation, the use of all the stereotypes and ism, the labels, the MSM use to cover the real issues and hide them behind rhetoric. If you want to believe in little ponies and kind politicians, fine. I do not choose to live through Atlas Shrugged for real, and since there is no real Gulch to go hide behind the invisible force field, I choose to NOT believe in the goodness of Clinton and Obama, and believe in the evil of the democratic machine.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Liberty is in peril in general, not just from Democrats, despite all the attention at the moment on their circus antics to be disruptive. This problem is much deeper than any particular political party or politics at all.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Democrats' immediate goal is to derail the Kavanaugh nomination. As always they are pursuing it with their phony moralizing twisting real justice into the lefts' aberration of 'social justice', which anti-reason collectivism is their long term goal and whose implementation requires government unconstrained by the Constitution -- which is why they are after Kavanaugh to begin with.

    No one is "laughing off violent crime". Taking crime seriously does not mean indefinitely hounding the innocent just because someone has made an accusation that can't substantiated but he wants it endlessly pursued without regard to logic and justice. An accuser's mental health is not relevant to arbitrary accusations, and neither are dark conspiracy theories from the anti-conceptual mentality. That three ring circus of hounding in an anti-intellectual free for all against the innocent is serious crime itself and should not be imposed by government. Even some Republicans on the committee can see that, perhaps because they finally caught on to the Democrats' tactic of turning every hearing into a circus.

    "Liberty is in grave peril" because reason, logic, justice and individualism are being abandoned. It is much broader than this latest circus.

    For some discussion on this forum of the Ford circus that rejects the conspiracy theories see https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree that liberty is in peril. Real justice is blind, but the Democrat’s weapon of social justice definitely is not.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 7 months ago
    People say the Democrats' goal is to delay the confirmation until they control Congress. They would be thrilled with that outcome, but I think the real benefit to them is the type of discussion on this post. I don't know if it's a plan or just luck. But they want to make this into a referendum on whether we take accusations of crime seriously. People seem to have a hard time making the argument that they abhor violence and they take all allegations seriously, BUT that does not imply we delay anyone starting a high-ranking job when an allegation comes out. It's easier to dismiss the accuser as mentally ill or part of a conspiracy. That makes me sick. The whole thing makes me sick.

    If I believed in this partisan shit, I should be saying "Great! This is just the type of accusation that makes Republicans make total asses of themselves. Please, let's keep talking about the alleged victim's mental health and conspiracy connection. Millions of people affected by violence are associating Republicans with laughing off violent crime. Score one for the good guys (i.e. my party = Democrats)!" But I don't believe in partisan politics. I'm really concerned that citizens don't realize how fragile a democratic republic is. Some serious problem will occur that will make people "come together" and forget about goat rodeos like this. But will they come together under a banner of liberty or or trading away liberty for security?

    The time to get serious is before the crisis. Liberty is in grave peril. It's not from dark plots. It's forgetting the very idea of justice being blind and gov't being limited by a Constitutional framework.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was reported well before the hearing that Kavanaugh's name had not come up in her earlier thereapy sessions. The issue here has been whether or not his name was explicitly cited in the polygraph test, with some incorrectly saying it was not. I missed it at first myself in her hand-written statement because of the bad handwriting.

    The Mitchell analysis has also been available at https://www.scribd.com/document/38984...
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is interesting. Ford clearly has emotional problems driving what she portrays as a "civic duty". It is interesting that there is a medical concept categorizing her observable behavior. Do you think it is extreme enough to allow for a professional diagnosis based solely on a TV appearance, ruling out other possibilities? But it does not preclude the plausibility that something like what she described actually happened to her.

    Her own problems are a separate issue from the logical dismissal of her accusations, and no explanation of her problems is required for that. But logic is not a strong point in the political realm today, and many people seem to emotionally require an explanation for her actions before dismissing her and her supporters' demands -- which is well beyond a simple desire to understand Ford's behavior in this circus.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From Rachel Mitchell The Nominations Investigative Counsel 's Analysis of Fords allegations report to the republican Senators.

    "Dr. Ford has struggled to identify Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant by name"

    no name given in her 2012 marriage therapy notes
    no name given in her 2013 individual therapy notes.
    Here is the link https://assets.documentcloud.org/docu...
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  • Posted by marsh113 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry. I'm only offering readers an opportunity to explore a medical approach to Dr. Ford's behavior. Sometimes a person's observed behavior is so obvious that it is easy to reach a diagnosis. This approach is used both in medical schools and medical symposiums that I have attended. We all do this in our lives to one degree or another. I hope that others may pursue learning about this. It provides an opportunity to gain a better understanding of what is going on. I thought that this audience might be interested.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The "Truth Talk" website is filled with religion and characterizes the arbitrary thinking there. The sweeping CIA conspiracy theory of control of the media is absurd; it is not "proved" by an unsubstantiated "quote" from David Rockefeller (and which has circulated and re-circulated among conspiracy mongers for years). His own political views are well known; that does not mean he controlled the media in an ongoing CIA conspiracy. The whole mentality of conspiracy theories as sweeping 'explanation' is irrational and does not belong here.
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