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People are Getting Crazier in California

Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 7 months ago to Culture
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I don't know about other parts of the nation. But, we were just talking about this in the office today. My life is spent commuting, working, and spending time with my family. I'm seeing things on my commute the past month or so that are really mindblowing. I think it must be a reflection of something affecting people. Just this morning there was a five car pileup in front of my office. 35 mph speed limit, no stop sights, no speed bumps, straight shot, two lanes...no reason for cars to run into each other. Yet, there it was. Almost no traffic at the time, very early in the morning. I've had a drunk stagger in front of my truck at 6:30 am, almost getting killed. I've seen multiple people passed out on drugs or booze with their legs out in the street and their upper bodies sprawled on the sidewalks. Lots of tents and boxes people sleep in almost anywhere they can place one - freeway cloverleafs, alleys, parks, creeks. I have seen multiple massive crashes lately - probably 5 in the past week - where somebody runs a red light doing at least 50 and just turns their car into a yard sale - often with bad injuries. I'm guessing people are either passing out or just playing with their phones. I'm seeing accidents like this almost every single day, sometimes a couple per day.

There's got to be something going on, right? My coworkers notice it too. Just this past week we've got stories of close calls on our commutes. Any theories on what it could be? I can't imagine. Perhaps it's just coincidence.


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
    I live in one of many satellite cities that surround Birmingham, Alabama. It has rough neighborhoods where I'm glad I conceal carry but I've never had any trouble. Blacks usually pick on blacks as far as crime is concerned anyway.
    Last week I went into downtown Birmingham where an oral surgeon is located near what's called "the projects" with government housing for the poor. People I saw sitting or sleeping on sidewalks? Zero.
    Eight years ago I drove through an alley to get to a job interview, having missed where I wanted to turn. The unexpected noise my car made caused a guy to wake up and scramble to crawl out of a cardboard box. He obviously thought I was the police.
    Yes, the police. That's because the Birmingham police does not tolerate people sleeping in alleys, on sidewalks or on park benches.
    BTW, I've lived in this area since 1982. How many people have I seen in a cardboard box? That one guy I just mentioned.
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    • Posted by evlwhtguy 5 years, 7 months ago
      That is exactly what Rudy Giuliani did in NY....hassle the squeegee guys. It made a big difference. Many in police and political leadership say the cops should concentrate on the really big crimes and quit chasing people spitting on the sidewalk....The problem is that if you give the an inch they take a mile and you have more "Serious" crimes when you let the inmates run the asylum.
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      • Posted by Ben_C 5 years, 7 months ago
        I was working in Manhattan when Rudy became mayor. What an amazing transformation. Yes, the police arrested the subway gate crashers and guess what, it made a difference given the number of felons arrested etc. The car window washers were expelled and traffic became a tiny bit better. Yes, send the homeless to Beverly Hills where the massive mansions must have ample room to house these people.
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        • Posted by evlwhtguy 5 years, 7 months ago
          Your statement..."Yes, send the homeless to Beverly Hills where the massive mansions must have ample room to house these people." makes me remember a scene from the Movie Doctor Zhivago which is about the Russian Revolution.

          Dr. Zhivago comes back to his family home after being forced to be a doctor for communist partisans for the last several years and he finds that his father and sister are living in an upstairs room and the house is full of "workers". There is a Commissar there who gives him a ration o crap about how the house was totally enormous and that's why the government moved all those people in there. and Doctor Zhivago, having worked with communist partisans for many years knows the right thing to say... He says... "Yes it is much more just that all these people are living here. "

          Of course the doctor is just trying to survive the encounter and the mob is actually ready to pounce on him and a distant cousin shows up who is a bigger commissar than the one in the house. He snaps his fingers, shows his red book and the mob immediately vanishes. Because of course, even though all the farm animals are equal..."Some are more equal than others"!. A very instructive movie.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
      If you want to see homeless, come to Vegas. They ar everywhere, and come into fast food restaurants constantly asking for money. Unfortunately, liberals give them money, making the problem worse.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
        The only time I passed through Vegas, spending the night and not losing much by playing quarter slots, it was 1973, seeing the Southwest after getting out of the service. Any homeless seen? Zero.
        In California we saw a lot of who my brother called, "Yesterday's hippies" were out stranded by the highways trying to thumb and flag us down for a ride.
        Saved a bunch of money in the serve, So me dino was carrying a lot of cash and travelers checks and didn't want anything to do with any strangers.
        Me dino was not thinking of yesterday's hiippies as homeless. Maybe I should have. Naw, due to them all being young methinks most had a home to go back to..
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        • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
          The homeless here are "entitled" homeless, using their "plight" to attract donations so they dont have to work. They are pretty brazen too- dont give them money and they either call you names, or just walk away and go on to the next "mark". I see them come into the fast food places casing the joint for guilty looking people. The black dudes go for the overweight white chicks who I see usually giving them money. Its just a sick culture of all this begging
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
            I don't see that many homeless in Alabama, which I guess makes unusual encounters all the more memorable.
            Driving, I was entering an overpass above I-20/59 out in the boonies halfway between Birmingham and Tuscaloosa.
            Coming the other way on the overpass walked a homeless man who wore a backpack. No otherr traffic or pedestrians were around.
            The homeless man was yelling at me with eyes all ablaze.
            Me dino supposed the man was angry about motorists ignoring him.
            So I ignored him.
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            • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
              Maybe random homeless people get eaten by the alligators and killed off by the snakes down there !! Not many natural disaster and difficulties here in Vegas. Even less in San Francisco, the home of homeless people
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              • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
                Me dino recalls hearing that a lot of people have been made to disappear beneath the sand all about Vegas but that was a reference to gangsters activity..
                Doubt a homeless person is worth a bullet to a gangster and especially not any shovel work.
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                • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
                  Yet no homeless people are slightest near the casinos!
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                  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
                    You may want to rewrite that for me dino does not know what it means.
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                    • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
                      Sorry. I meant that the casino security people scare away the homeless, so they arent obvious to the hotel guests, BUT in other parts of the Las Vegas, they are all over
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                      • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
                        +1 Think of the reader when you write.
                        Me dino has a degree in journalism but even I can screw up. So fret not.
                        Almost all the time I clearly understand you.
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                        • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
                          sorry, not sure what I was thinking. Maybe I got rushed
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                          • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
                            Always proofread. Especially when rushed.
                            When I worked for a small time newspaper during the 70s, I was at times embarrassed by discovered careless gaffes a whole mess of people got to read.
                            My editor did not edit, you see. In fact, when someone complained about a controversial subject he MY BOSS ordered me to cover, he would lie about having no control over what I wrote. Learned that due to gossip getting around. .
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  • Posted by GaryL 5 years, 7 months ago
    I was in Cal. in 1970 while in the USN and while in San Diego I thought I would always love to live there. From NY and after retiring we went to SD to look into moving there last year. I was absolutely amazed at how the place had changed and instead of spending the week we had planned we left the very next day. What a complete waste land it had become in less than 45 years. My wife had never been out of rural NY and she was horrified that I was so intent on moving to San Diego. She had seen all the pictures of me and my sailor buddies from Mission Bay and the beach and was thrilled to be going. She can't even listen to her favorite Beach Boys albums any more. NY is a cesspool too but as long as we remain away from any of the metro areas we don't see it though we do feel the pinch of our liberal leaders and the taxes, regulations and high cost of living. Where to go will be the question for the ages and as soon as we get to that place I am willing to bet all the carpet baggers like us will follow and sadly bring their progressive attitudes, wants and desires with them and ruin where ever they land.
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  • Posted by SamAnderson 5 years, 7 months ago
    I grew up in North San Diego county, loved CA back then, but left 20 years ago due to progressive decline in QOL. It is sad to see the negative changes. Its like having a beautiful ex-girlfriend who becomes a crack whore.
    On another note, it seems that people everywhere I go recently (last 2 months especially) are significantly more irritable and on edge. I wonder if there isn't some collective unconsciousness about 1) political unrest stirred by the 7/24 news cycle and 2) the recognition that despite politicians giving us 'the economy has never been better' talk, we are walking the edge of an economic precipice. If so, I wouldn't expect to see more civil behavior in the near future.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 5 years, 7 months ago
    You're still in the "rat race." If you were retired like me, livivng in a rural-ish area you wouldn't see as much of the madness. However, I must admit that I was the victim of some craziness. Some jerk who claimed PTSD rear-ended me at a red light and then SUED ME! He hit me so hard that he pushed me into the rear of the car stopped in front of me and the air bags deployed.
    my wife, a mini person got smacked in the face with the bag giving her two black eyes that cosmetics could not make disappear. He was driving a scooter in order to get around. When we went to court, I had my handy dandy NRA pocket knife on me and I was very tempted to aerate his tires. My BW who has been with me for 64 years saw what I guess was a certain expression on my face and immediately knew what I was thinking jabbed me rather forcefully in the ribs with her elbow. I got the message and left the tires of the scooter alone.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 7 months ago
    No wonder Californians migrate to Colorado. The drivers there may be even crazier. When I was a Colorado resident over 30 years ago, they seemed to make tailgating a sport. I witnessed a 57 car pileup on I-70 in clear weather, all due to a tailgating circus of extreme nature.

    Coloradans also seem to fail to grasp how four wheel drive works, speeding like maniacs on icy roads. I counted six four wheel drive pickups upside down in the median on the way to work one day.

    Send the California crazies to Colorado, where they'll feel right at home.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
      Didnt Colorado go democratic? Maybe they liberals are already there.
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      • Posted by jmmayka1 5 years, 7 months ago
        It did go blue and yes, they have been coming here in droves for decades . . . :(

        I-25 and I-70 are both almost completely undriveable now . . .

        - verified by a CO native still living here.
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        • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
          It seems like a total lack of courtesy, perhaps fueled by the idea that things are going to disintegrate at any moment. This might also account for the popularity of WALKING DEAD. Subtract out the zombie thing and replace it by hordes of looters after an apocalypse event removes all traces of civilization.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 years, 7 months ago
    We have snowflakes and airheads driving about while texting, sometimes on drugs.Even in the Midwest, we see people driving the wrong way on Interstates or changing lanes on city streets, at breakneck speeds and no turn signals. Some of them seem suicidal. Others seen not to know there are other people in the world. The ability to reason and realize they are not so important that they can'r go without phone contact long enough to drive, and the people in their sphere will survive without their mindless texts. We have a terrible opoid epidemic in this area, so you never know who is driving near you. Why do people need drugs, why do thye become so weak and powerless. Life is tough, accept it, and stop making the doctors and drug dealers rich.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 5 years, 7 months ago
    Haven’t read other responses, so this is “virgin”.

    Tragic, but IMO as an objectivist and lifelong Economist, this is real, and not coincidence.

    It signifies the early symptoms of a breakdown in civil social order, starting with the moral and mental breakdown or at minimum distraction of individuals of all “classes”.

    That it is happening in Far Left California is not surprising. The stresses of the misallocations of valuable resources (which unlike the myth and propaganda du jour, is caused by the essentially Socialist governments there, NOT Capitalism) leads to failures and inequalities through all of society. But in the end, those affected are individuals, and these behaviours a result of stresses too overwhelming to handle.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
    I live in Vegas, and the drivers here are the worst I have ever seen. I am not sure if its just the people who live here, or its the times we live in.

    I call it MTV driving, where nothing is planned, but most driving decisions are done at the last second to get the 'best deal" in real time. The result is chaos with cars changing lanes all the way across the 3 lane road, speeding through traffic lights, and other last minute decision making.

    People seem to want to get in front of you all the time, encouraging "turf protection" as a major goal.

    Also, people dont leave enough space between cars to give one a chance to prevent an accident. Its as if they expect there to be accidents and if you follow very closely at least you wont hit the car in front at a high relative velocity.

    Lack of planning, in my opinion, is the real cause of this. They just aim their cars, instead of driving them.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 5 years, 7 months ago
    But, but, they're "oh so concerned" and progressive! How can this happen with high income tax, sales tax, gas tax rates, generous welfare, sanctuary cities?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 7 months ago
    Cosmic radiation, it's on the increase. Studies have shown that it effects health and it effects the mental state of those most vulnerable.
    It's on the increase for two reasons: 1, the sun, we are not getting the electrical interaction with sunspots which keeps our ionosphere active, thereby protecting us from cosmic radiation. 2, A weakened magnetic shield, (down 25%) likely caused by magnetic pole excursions...in other words...they are on the move and moving toward each other.
    We also have, as you have observed, people having sex on their cell phones; (it might as well be sex) Why else would you stop paying attention to where they are driving?

    Put all these factors together; what does it spell?...People are not aware, (conscious) of their own behavior...everything is fluid and relative. They have devolved back into the nonconscious bicameral brain as a result of the post modern society where nothing matters so long as it feels good...until you get hurt!
    Then of course, it's someone else's fault!

    I lived in California for 4 years in the late 70's, they were crazy then too...always ready for a party...I thought at the time,..maybe it's the constant danger of waking up in the ocean with out a paddle. (earthquakes, (The Big one), mud slides, forest fires or alien invasions).

    Connecticut SUCKS...but not as bad as California.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
      There are no ramifications for your actions in California. The liberal philosophy of "stronger together" will take care of whatever happens to you, so you dont have to.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 7 months ago
    In the past week there were two cops shot within a mile of my house, and another shooting about 1/4 mile away. It's just becoming a way of life here - random, extreme violence.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
      I have trouble believing the media violence reports. That said, its my impression that violence has increased dramatically in the last few years. It seems like hardly a day goes by without an "active shooter" story being on the news.

      I would like to see statistics from a someone just reporting the facts. The MSM seems to promote violence to encourage gun control.

      I just want the facts.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 7 months ago
    Hi Abaco ,
    For you and your families self interest you might consider running not walking away from the riches to rags story that California has become. You have the talent and work ethic that would be valued all across the country.
    As a former resident leaving was a great move.
    Watching The movie Grand Canyon, the way Steve Martin was shot and Kevin Clines ill fated wrong turn leaving the lakers game must seem like a picnic compared to today.
    I rarely see many homeless let alone living in tents.
    In the major metro area I live in. The only group of those shelter needy folks is at the soup kitchen in downtown St Paul. I have never had to dodge human excrement where ever I go.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 7 months ago
      Yes. I've been looking - for quite some time. We will be out of this state eventually. I'm the last in my family still here.

      Most of my life has been as a Californian. I was born here. I've spent countless time enjoying the mountains and beaches. This is such a beautiful place. It's transition into what's happening here now really is very saddening for me. I remember living the simple, happy family life here when I was a kid. My folks would take us over to the beach at Santa Cruz for a weeknight picnic dinner regularly. No crowds. Just natural beauty. Now, so much of it is derelicts staggering around with no teeth, pooping on the sidewalks...tent cities, road rage incidents, schools teaching little boys about how to select marital toys (not an exaggeration). It's sad...
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
        Last time (2015) I went to California, I couldnt shake the image in AS of the oak tree that was rotten at the core. Thats Califonria. I made my fortune in the 80's, but by 91 I left as it was not a place to do business aymore.

        Its the beauty I suppose that keeps people living there. What other reason is there? Taxes are high, regulations are through the roof, and its filled with collectivists everywhere you turn.
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