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To all the objectivist's who have vehemently denied conspiracies. What say. you now?

Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 11 months ago to History
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Those who follow Q are called Anons. The Anons are months ahead of the real news? The five eyes involvement with this Ongoing Coup de Tate had been disclosed months ago.

Five Eyes Spying on POTUS
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15 Apr 2018 - 11:37:31 PM
Re_read Five Eyes.
Avoid US data collection laws.
Hussein.
Public: Dossier FISA.
Not Public: Five Eyes UK/AUS POTUS targeting using pushed RUS decoy meetings / campaign insertions.
Hussein HRC LL Brennan Clapper NAT SEC WH SIT RM OP UK AUS assist/set up.
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B Hussien O had in a situation room in the White House that was set up for him to monitor and spy on Trump.
We also were aware of the MSM's role. five eyes Australia,Canada,New Zealand, UK, US
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Ask yourself, how would 'FOREIGN' Allies' KNOW what is within a US TOP SECRET FISA warrant?
"NO INTELLIGENCE SHARED THROUGH THAT 'OFFICIAL CHANNEL' [AUS, CA, NZ, UK, US)">AUS, CA, NZ, UK, US)">FVEY]" - NUNES
Ask yourself, why are [2] 'KEY' Allies' VERY CONCERNED re: DECLAS & RELEASE?
YOU HAVE MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
UK/AUS [PRIMARY]
RATS RUNNING?
THE WORLD WILL KNOW.
ANONS KNEW.
JUST ANOTHER COINCIDENCE?
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Q

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2 USA Allies Caught up in Fisagate Are Sharing Info on Big Fish
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Important graphic.
How do you catch a FISH?
Use BAIT?
Imagine the information being shared NOW out of FEAR.
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Both British and Australia intelligence worked in coordination with the Mule faced turd muffin Brennan's C_A , DOJ and FBI,no name traitor, Hussein ,the evil hag. The goal was and is to interfere with a US Presidential election and then usurp the American people's duly elected President. It was/is an act of war ! It encompasses a very large group of agencies and most top officials in those agencies. The POS Obama has travelled the globe preceding Trumps visits to foreign leaders and followed his visits. The traitor John Kerry doing the same. They know they are doomed. The Great Awakening has rendered the MSM as totally complicit .The Narrative is dropped for the daily news at 4am from the black hat SMFPedoVermine and the headlines and talking points ring in unison across the media. This large group worked together with a plan to frame Trump. That is a f.....ing conspiracy.

Give me lots of down votes on this and you will never hear from me again.


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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I cannot deal with the details of any philosophy, especially when people start using the words that have been developed by those that followed the philosopher and know either exactly what they were thinking, or know it better. I do know that Atlas Shrugged was a book about many facets, the power of the mind to overcome the power of people, the ability to leverage, the falsity of government and corruption. I like some of the basic precepts of objectivism, but I refuse to get wrapped up in minutia. Ayn Rand drew me because she saw the dangers of politics, political power and an elitist gang who will take everything and return nothing, and develop an arrogant assumption it is theirs. Thats enough for me.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's next on my list after the lectures ewv recommended. BTW, ewv says people in that animal mode of existence had a philosophy, just a bad one. But I think most people act without a philosophy. And some of us (maybe me sometimes; I hope not) reconstruct rationalizations to explain why our behavior that was led by heuristics actually was based on a rational philosophy.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump is a good judge of character and is a lot smarter than the establishment repubs
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  • Posted by EgoPriest 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or would it be anti-collectivist and thus engender all kinds of hatred from the establishment?
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True, and the Repubs are loath to admit they need him, but will go for "using him", not realizing he IS using THEM.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I watched all the episodes of the Wild, Wild Country documentary a few months ago. It sounded somewhat alluring actually, although its hard to know the detail of what they were really up to. I came away from watching it with a great disdain for the government's handling of it. Even though I could say their ideas were a bit different from mainstream ideas, I thought it was OK for them to practice those without being hounded by government. People seemed to join up willingly and stay there, even though I got the distinct impression if you wanted to leave, you were free to do so.

    Our government has hounded any such group that wants basically to withdraw from the establishment powers and be left alone. I think this would happen to a Gulch if it became large enough and prosperous enough. It would be impossible to defend, at least in the USA. Maybe on an island somewhere away from the USA.

    I remember seeing the PTL club on TV, where Jim Bakker made basically a christian water park. I am not into the religion thing, but I thought a lot of people definitely were into that, and should be able to freely go to a nice place that gave them what they wanted. The government basically destroyed their reputation, which killed their customer base, and resulted in BK (I say was caused BY the government).

    What they did is no different than what the health clubs do when they charge up front fees, hoping that only a fraction of the people will actually come and work out every day. BUT, there isnt an anti establishment tone to those businesses.

    A Gulch would definitely be anti establishment, and would engender all kinds of collectivist hatred I think. I would move there in a second however.
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  • Posted by EgoPriest 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. Speaking of the Bagwhan, what a great documentary that Wild, Wild Country was. That stuff was happening in my back yard when I was in my early teens. I ran away from home once to join them, but it was too late.

    Also I grew up Seventh-Day Adventist and all they talk of is the "end times" when the government passes "the Sunday Law" and stamps 666 on everyone's forehead and the chosen one's all run to the hills. (So I was ripe for Galt's Gulch from an early age).

    Now I know better than to take it quite so literally. In the digital age there is a network, an economy under anyone's radar. But it speaks with a loud voice. "Q" is only the "voice" of the Collaborator-in-Chief (as though instead of burning his oil fields and disappearing, Ellis Wyatt had decided to run for Head of State...now if only he could get Galt to write his damn speeches).
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. I will check out those links. I just remember Peikoff from the early days of Objectivism- all that epistemology was a little too much for me to grasp and actually use.

    Your last paragraph about finding an "enclave" is pretty much right on. Finding a reasonably small number of really good people would not be a terrific challenge, but defending such an enclave would be quite difficult. Look at Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Bagwhan. These enclaves would need to be relatively small and pretty much self sufficient in order not to attract attention
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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have listened to a video of a Secret Service agent who watched the Clinton crime cartel operate in the White House.
    The head rapist was a disgusting pig according to his descriptions and The evil hag was a crazed angry Lunitic ready to chop of anyone's head who
    tried to do their job or use standard protocol.
    It will be a world holiday when Justice is served on them.
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  • Posted by jimslag 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, sometimes I get on a rant and it seems to make sense at the time but looking at it later, I go, what was I thinking. This one though comes from the heart. I lived inside the Beltway for 2 years during the Clinton Clan years. I dealt with secure communications and had to deal with all the places that had them, including the White House. I have felt so degraded and looked down upon as I was when I went there. I was brought brought up to revere the military, my dad and uncles were all military, I was a military brat. The left despises it and the right uses it to nation build or dispose of leaders it does not like. Either way it is a force of destruction, not nation building, not a world police force. I lived it and have seen things and done things that I still cannot talk about. My thoughts are mine and occasionally I div them out and some like and some don't. Thank you for the kind words though....Jim
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  • Posted by starznbarz 7 years, 11 months ago
    Ive seen this "Q" pop up around the net, never chased it down, no need to as my instincts, based on decades of living with humans, tells me all I need to know about all politicians, car salesmen and communists. Even if some wouldnt admit it in public, Trump is shaping up to be the most Constitutional minded president since Coolidge, with the exception of Reagan... I know, I`m amazed too.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes that is why Admiral Rodgers (former head of NSA) is such a patriot.
    He informed President -elect Trump of the surveillance in an impromptu meeting at Trump tower ny after the election?They immediately moved the headquarters. Now the table is turned and I would place a large wager that the "Coup " players are being legally surveiled with a legally acquired FISA , after all they conspired with a foreign agent Christopher Steele (UK) and various Russian operatives to take down a duly elected President.
    The rats now are scrambling to save their scaly little tails.
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  • Posted by EgoPriest 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure which of Peikoff's writing you're referring to. Not everything of his is on the same abstract, or even philosophical, level. I would recommend The Ominous Parallels as being no more abstract than Atlas Shrugged.

    To be selfish, one acts proudly on principle whatever the range or scope of one's actions. You make the most of every moment and let the future worry about itself (how much longer did Hugh Akston have, for instance, when he quit and joined the strike). And it's not a national, but a global, issue.

    Project the consequences of our philosophical revolution actually succeeding. "America" might wind up centered in Africa for all I know. There are no "values" but the ones people create on the basis of true principles.

    Yes, in general all that people on the right can do -- like the "scabs" in Atlas -- is slow it down and drag it out. They can neither reverse or change course short of dismantling and converting the system to pure laissez-faire (which can only happen when Objectivists are let into leadership positions).

    If you pick up DIM, Peikoff recommends in the Introduction chapters that are easy to read without going into all the technical jargon. There are also, of course, Youtube videos ( e.g., https://youtu.be/gQomhCVmDto ).

    I agree with your second paragraph, and he can't do it alone. The vertical (philosophy) without the horizontal (culture) is as purposeless as the latter is without the former impossible.

    And yes, "the idiocy of collectivism," given the dominant ideas (vertically) must manifest culturally as "productive" support for a collectivist culture collapsing regardless (only dragging out the agony more slowly than it ought to be).

    As it collapses, good people must look to any "enclave" in which they can survive (or at least not starve outright); remote, self-sustaining farms or islands perhaps.
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  • Posted by Stormi 7 years, 11 months ago
    When Trump walked into that Oval Office, I feared he was in over his head. He stalked about cleaning the swamp, but I did not trust Obama. I figured he had rigged communications. Sure enough, a couple dyas later, Obama was on camera telling his followers he has a "shadow government" and he would be back. That was in addition to the swamp left by Bush, Clinton and Obama, already in place. It is hard to tell them apart, but I think they are distinct. The Congressional pedophile ring, worth millions is part of the swamp. Obama has been plotting, at the WWC bldg. with Valerie Jarrett, how to employ his shad ow government to take down Trump -sedition. I wish he would pardon and employ Assange, and get that up and working defense. I do not trust DC, and Obama's submission of the first one page document to spy on Trump, signed by Lynch, no foreign involvement, says it all. When it was reused for no cumentation of foreign involvement, he handed to FBI and said, make it ahppen, whatever you have to do. Result, phony dossier, and ongoing corruption by DNC.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I havent read much of Peikoff's work, as what I did read frankly was a bit over my head ( my fault actually). I voted FOR Trump not because I thought he would stop collectivism, but because I thought he would not advance it and maybe even slow it down a bit. This is a selfish motive, because I wont be around that much longer, and really dont want collectivism to ruin the rest of my life and more than it has already.

    Fixing this country is going to take many many years, and in the meantime it will follow the path of Venezuela. I think AR was right in AS where the only way John Galt could have a shot at changing things was by "stopping the motor of the world" FIRST.

    I take that to mean that the producers no longer support the idiocy of collectivism, period, causing the crash of the whole collectivist economy
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  • Posted by 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for your thoughtful comments . I particularly enjoyed the Description of the district of corruption.
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  • Posted by EgoPriest 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have you read "The DIM Hypothesis: Why the Lights of the West Are Going Out" by Leonard Peikoff? It's his application of Objectivism to the state of the world and the "forces" at work.

    If you do and agree with its conclusion, you will see why the Trumps, Petersons and Richard Spencers of the world are the only real (because lasting) threat on the horizon.

    All that nihilists like Obama can do is speed up their triumph, only they have any staying power, only they can "win."
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope you are right. I think though that Kavanaugh is going to sink in the mire of stupid sexual "harrassment" , now that additional claims are being proffered. I do think that the whole Rosenstein /Mueller thing will crash and burn though.
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  • Posted by jimslag 7 years, 11 months ago
    So, we have some interesting comments. Some upset someone to no good end. Sorry for the rude introduction to World of Galt. Trump is not perfect, we did not elect him to be perfect, we elected him because he was not a Clinton. He was a businessman. Business is messy and it is dirty beyond belief. There are backroom deals and under the table money needed to get things done. I don't know about you, but I do not need a nanny government, one that tells me how to live my life. I dealt with that for 21 years in the military. I have seen the political wranglings in Dirty City, the District of Corruption and I was disgusted but I did my duties and moved on, but always looking for my Gulch away from that species that thrives on that corruption. This is my online Gulch but I am still looking for a physical one. Anyway, for Trump (The Prez), he is what we needed after 8 years of the Great O, he that is not fading into the sunset but interjecting himself on our psych with his presence. The government is a business but it is run as a self serving entity. It thrives on Power and always seeks more. The Big Government Party, both wings, rules with no regard to their constituents. One side wants war, the other wants to classify you into a subset and divide us into tribes that fight each other. It is so we do not fight them. You can take that with a grain of salt but that is where I am coming from. I do not know Objectivism but I am learning from some of the vast amount of knowledge that people have about it. I am a lousy student and it takes several iterations to settle in my brain as an accepted ideology.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was the PEOPLE who elected Trump, despite the two parties being against him. One problem with the midterms is that it needs to be framed as a second vote FOR Trump, and not for Republicans specifically. Mainstream republicans dont want Trump but have to pay lip service to him because he has the people behind him
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump is quite the opposite of the MSM and mainstream politicians of both parties. It was a personal election in 2016- and people voted for HIM, not the republicans. He pretty much used the RNC to get him into office, but neither party wanted him to win (or expected him to win). The establishment is firmly against trump and would like to get rid of him.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At least Trump tries to get us to stick to the constitution. He cant always do what he wants, since pretty much everyone else is against him.
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